Okay this one has been anoyying me because, I was raised to believe in Jesus, but really right now at my age I dont think that is the answer. Why would jesus be picked as the gods son, and not live forever. For crying out loud Einstine should be gods son he knew most things in life. Look at what the church has done to men, they said Earth is Flat? are you kidding me?
Now if it says that in a Bible which i HOPE it doesnt. That would be pretty funny since GOD WROTE IT. but i dont think it is hmmm now why, is it not because... umm.... THEY MAYBE UPDATED THE BIBLE SOON AS THEY FOUND OUT THAT HUMANS FLEW INTO SPACE. Church is a waste of time, truly its just a way to get rid of your boredum. Muslim religion dont get me started, please. Every religion is just fake, a fake clan a RUMOR that someone made up just so there could be something to talk about on Earth.
In ADVANCE.

there is no god and if there is a god TRUST ME. he is not human not even an alien id say this is just a big THOUGHT a DREAM. crazy at it may sound we live for no reason, we die and thats it we rot into the ground there is no heaven. COME ON we flew enough into the sky to see if there is a heaven and NOPE. For all i can say, I AM GOD now watch maybe in 2000 years when this Thread is very old, someone will read it and worship me and actully think i am god. This world is just PATHETIC. i spit on the creator of it. Just stresses me out. :mad:

Easy, Technique. Life is not that bad. Cheer up!

technique i know why ppl get depressed and filled with sorrow. some of the time its because they get fustrated with life or impatient when things dont go their way or when they try to find the truth about something but cannot. god does exist and he is everywhere and in everything(including people) even if u reject him. there is a meaning of life. the meaning of life is to attain pure consciousness, to be divine, being 1 with god.

religions by themselves might not make much sense to u but unify them together and it makes perfect sense. there r things to learn from each religion eg christian - sacrifice, not be self centered like how christ died on the cross for us.....islam - surrender to god

Religions were made to help the primivite people along the way and they just couldn't understand the message. Judiasm, Christianity and Islam are all successive teachings from the same teacher. The reason why Islam forbids the Bible is because the bible was meant for people of the Judeo-Christian and the whole point of the religions were to guide us along as a gradual progress and awakening of humanity on Earth. Not to study primitive texts and be stuck in the primitive traditions. Islam also teaches that Jesus Christ was of flesh. Which is absolutlely correct. Allah/YHWH gave the guidence to write the Quran to Mohammed who at the time was illiterate. The reason why Mohammed said Jesus was flesh is because it was revealed to him by YHWH when he wrote the Quran. People that can't let go of primitive beliefs are the ones who start the wars.

A lot of the so called primative peoples beliefs deal with being one with nature and its forces to live here, while religion is one that the more self indulging cultures have established. They set up a religion after an alien encounter and what teachings and etc. where given, using what was said then or even from long before as Christianity has done from the same older teachings found in Sumeria, and other cultures. Often warlords use this to control people as were the early popes, until religion becomes a way to give them an excuse to excuse themselves from the wars and inquistions and gathering of wealth. Dogmatic materialistic congestion has resulted to suppress mankind from what was originally true of what really was in the first place of the simple spirituallity like Blessing Way. Spirituality and religion are two different things.

If there was no religion, then there be no wars. Now maybe The Son of Man will arrive and straighten it all out from what the Son of God left behind. But who was God, which ancient astronaut was he?

As much as I despise organized religion in general, you can't qualify a statement like 'If there was no religion, then there be no wars.' Human beings generally want peace on Earth. Human beings DON'T agree on the processes on how to reach that peace. Religion is one of the many paths on the search for peace. The communist Chinese have quite a bit of hostility towards religion, but can be very war-like all the same. Religion or no religion, humans are still one step away from barbarianism.

i know Noone, it is just a saying many have. in so many ways a form of religion is the only way to control the masses with doctrines of karma and so on so they will not run amok. But is communism a religion? Defination of religion as a deep belief that one is controlled by? On one hand we have religions, and the other a specific way, but what is their specific purposes in the order of things? Do they act in an orderly way of our evolution, being enzymic or other ways that somehow our collective psychic is producing?

Why can we all just get along. As Churchward said; " Civilization leads to barbarism!"

Maybe I have too many genetic memories and past lives remembering what religion has done from my ancestor Martian Luther, others in past tree in Salem and so on. All the pain that western religion has caused especially of the Cathars , First Nations and more.. How many here feel empathic to what history has done to our fellow mankind? What can we do that really makes an difference today. Stop the west from saving the Iraqis from occuping themselves? God believers should not kill other God believers as each is only another aspect of the Creator.

No wonder aliens do not openly contact us as the same would be done to them as they are different.

how very pessimistic of you. lol. But I do agree, this world is slowly moving to the stage of crippled beyond repair.

god most definitely does exist we see evidence of it all the time. God may not be what we think god is but he is there. All religion would not have so much in common if there was not a god directing us. now i would not belive the words of some preist or cleric. Look at what is given and decide for yourself what you believe but dont speak of the absence of god until you know all religions.

Mande posts: All religion would not have so much in common if there was not a god directing us... dont speak of the absence of god until you know all religions.

Back at you Mande. Your statement is biased and based on the Western World's view regarding God. Before Islam, before Christianity and before Judaism (which are the only major religions who believe in One God-monotheism) the World was filled with many gods. (Even the Jews were polytheistic until they changed their minds.) An intelligent person is going to ask themselves why these three middle-eastern religions are the true ones versus the other religions of the World (Hinduism, Shintoism [Nature Worship] et al). Because we are told so? Because we ’believe’ so? And this makes it so? I don’t think so. ~rore

whoa son! I'm a certainly not being biased just because i wrote g-o-d instead of g-o-d-s. all religions have something to give and they were all created for reason if anything i would be biased against western religions (i am not though) because they seem to cause a lot the problems in the world and you dont here much conflict about polythestic religions (or at least i dont) and actually my belief in god is not bound to any one religon and it certainly is not related to judaism, christianity, or islam. God knows that. There is no true relgion known to man in my opinion there'ye could be one but we have no knowledge of it.

Mande posts: All religion would not have so much in common if there was not a god directing us

Mande, where in the World do you come up with A GOD directing Humanity? This is the bias I am pointing out, with an emphasis on understanding that most religions in the World do not hold to the ideal of One God.

You have a belief (faith) in a God. That is all. Yet you state: “god most definitely does exist we see evidence of it all the time”. Then you say; ‘All religion would not have so much in common if there was not a god directing us’.
GOD directing Humanity?
That is like saying GOD is directing Humanity to kill in the name of this common ideology, what with all the religious wars waged throughout history. Or God is directing Humanity to despoil the Earth, which we are doing.

No god is not directing Humanity. No evidence of this do I see.

Mande posts: “…religions… were all created for reason…”

And the most likely reason for religions being created By Humans is so Humans could comfortably live in a World they could not understand the brutality of. ~rore

your are right people are certainly are not living as they should but that does not mean that there is not some higher force attempting to help us or show us the way. we simply ignore it because of all the distractions we create (a false reality). "a World they could not understand the brutality of" you say, we made the world so brutal so your saying we dont understand ourselves (which may be true) but easy way or hard way we will find out exactly what we are doing and i bet it will be the hard way.

Have some problems with Christianity have we? This looks more like a personal issue. This is the only thing that can cut down religion, the failure to give that helping hand at a personal level.

I can't tell you what to believe. But I can tell you that the whole subject is not a sham. True enough it is not true as presented to you. Very little of it is.
But the parts that are are so big and important that the rest can ride on it and still mange to grow to massive size.

Don't lose sight of that helping hand. It is still needed stronger than ever.

That is a retrogression in science. The day religion dies out completely is the day man does too.

IMHO Jesus brought to Humanity a new order and way of justice that, if people adhered to, would greatly benefit Humanity. No more an eye for an eye etc. What certain groups of individuals did to his teachings is a travesty.

Where Jesus promoted love and understanding, many adherents promote hate and chaos; hell fire instead of peace on Earth. Racism, greed, war… all the things antithesis to Jesus’ teachings.

There is no god orchestrating this travesty, just Humans. And, as Jesus says, the choice of good and evil lies in Humanity’s hands. Spread the Word! ~rore

hope of heaven might relieve some of that there stress.

hope is mans greatest ally but can sometimes mislead us.

I think religion was made to answer the unexplained, now I believe in God, but I don't have the rights to force anyone to also. If every religion (Not the extremists or people with sacrafises and all htat freaky wierd stuff) would just unite and make a First United Church that has all the teachings that are good from religion, then we would be united, and then in turn, the answer to life could possible be solved. many have said what it is, now since I don't think any Bibles from before Columbious still are around today, they might not have said anything about Earth's shape or space travel. Some pictures in it actually show alien crafts (Supposedly) and if so, maybe aliens are superior, and are more perfect than us. As said in Heroes: "If Humans are not made in God's image, then I believe cockroaches are. They are physically superior to us, able to survive nuclear blasts, live for a week with no head, thy are truely physically superior than us"

And in the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galxy (the answer to life is 42, deal with it!) It says that the chances that a creature very usefull could evolve by chance is so unlikely it is proof God exists. (Something else about something) God says, "I refuse to prove I exist, as with proof there is not fath, and without faith I am nothing,"

Man then says, "Is the Babel Fish not proof you exist?"

God then says, "Hmm. I didn't think of that," As he vanishes out of existence from the fact he existed is proven andd faith then means nothing.

In other words, if there was proof he existed there would be no faith and without faith he doesn't exist, so he just doesn't prove existence so that there is faith and he can help people.


Now since I'm not in any religion and I believe that evolution is real along with God, I say that I will never attempt to prove his existence as it would destroy faith in him, thus destroying his existence. Now if that happened then the universe existed, not much wouod change, as he uses a gentle nudge, just to help us along.

Like in Futurama:

"If you help too much people become dependent, if you don't help enough, people don't believe in you. What you need to do is use a gentle nudge."

"Earth, what one is that?" (I LOVE that quote)

And "Sometimes when you do something good, no one notices you did anyhting at all"

Are you still around Technique? You post is.