Here is a video and story of the Lake Champlain creature. They get about 10 - 12 sightings per year.
http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/abc-champ/

SD.....nice find.....I didn't see anything in the video.....but I think something unknown is in Lake Champlain

it looks like a eel from what i seen

thay can get up to 10 feet eazy and even cross land for miles + anything from pollution to a submarine can mess with a amphibious creatures brain / the lakes not to far from the sargasso sea takeing into account thay travel all round the world and across sea's my moneys on a Eel (when fish a sick or in problems thay trash like that on the surface) mybe thay should have showed it to a marine expert b4 the called the FBI LOL.
Im no expert but i do work in search and rescue i see crap like that all the time

This post has been edited by The Boxer: Mar 30 2008, 04:03 PM

SD....Monster Hunters did a great show on Champ. They didn't find much, but what they did find was evidence of an animal using echo-location, which is only used by whales and dolphins. One expert says its possible based on local fossil finds that it could be a fresh water cetacean.

Think about this....witnesses often see three humps....instead of one animal it could be three, as dolphins and whales often live and swim in pods.....IMO it is an unknown form of cetacean

I see what you are saying.
If we base it solely on the eyewitnesses, that does not quite fit the bill...does it?

It it is using echos for locating, that should be helpful in trying to locate it.

SD....if we go purely by eyewitnesses maybe not....but then many of the sightings are honest but misidentified IMO. I'm not a big believer in the living dinosaur theory.

Hopefully by traking the animals echo location calls we maybe able to figure out what it really is.

You say the show Monster Hunters did a great show on Champ. They didn't find much, but what they did find was evidence of an animal using echo-location , im sorry but what echo-location (Biosonar) is in definition is biological sonar used by several mammals, dolphins,whales,bats and afew birds and probley some others but thats not the point, animals emit calls out to the environment, and listen to the echoes of those calls that return from various objects in the environment. They use these echoes to locate, range, and identify the objects its basically sound (anytype of calls) that travle in a sound wave under water or in the air. The echo-location part comes in when the waves of sound that all naturally bounce off various objects come back to the animal and it can interpret it in its brain. Even if thay went to sea world to see fliper the dolphin thay couldnt say thay had a evidence of an animal using echo-location unless thay got to study it very closely. At most all thay can say is thay puck up some sound or clicking of some type, thats not evidence of an animal using echo-location. Im not saying there is no champ (thay found a prehistoric shark off the coast of Japan thought to be extinct ) but that video is a video of some type of eal that is nowhere near 10 foot long , with a clearly white
uinderside in some type of distressed swimming. You can tell most times how soon a fish has came into a freshwater river estuary or lake by how bright its underside is. Its just a opinion but i think its a salt water Eal from its white underside that has be dumped or found its way into a freshwater lake, and its haveing difficulties in its new environment.

This post has been edited by The Boxer: Mar 31 2008, 11:49 AM

boxer.....Thanks....but I am aware of what animals use echo locations and how it works.

boxer.....I just have a couple questions for you

so echo location can only be studied in an aquarium?.....bear in mind they study killer whales and dolphins using echo location in the wild and what was identified in Lake Champlain resembled a killer whales call.

Though I agree there could be eels in Lake Champlain I do not think distressed eels are the solutions for champ.....my second question is if it is distressed how is it that champ has been seen for centuries?

ok man lol your missing the point altogether, i didnt say there was no champ , im saying that the video is a video of an Eel (a sick Eal at that ) in my opinion the VIDEO is not champ. And as for the monster hunters , there is no way that thay can say that an unknow creature ,that thay never seen ,or never studyed and have no scientific data on EVER is useing echo-location (Biosonar) And as for echo location can only be studied in an aquarium, i didnt say that. I would go as far to say that if the monster hunteters had champ in there bath tube thay couldnt tell you lol. Tell me how thay could ? (without studying it)
Thay study killer whales and dolphins using echo location in the wild because
thay no from past scientists and marine biologists studying there brains and behaviors for a very long time theres scientific data.

If you or any other human being had never seen a dolphin b4 how could you tell me it uses echo-location. You coulnt without studying it

i said "The echo-location part comes in when the waves of sound that all naturally bounce off various objects come back to the animal and it can interpret it in its brain." How can you or the monster hunters tell whats going on in the Champs brain"

if you dont understand that then im sorry i dont no what to tell you , read my post again man

This post has been edited by The Boxer: Mar 31 2008, 07:03 PM

I do not think it impossible that Champ and many other similar lake creatures could be a surviving decendant from the dinosaur age. Who the heck knows, what kind of traits it would acquire in all this time?