Hi, y'all. I am what I would deem an amateur researcher/investigator. I visit forums like this to learn things from quite a few well educated, "in the know" contributors. I have learned many things that I was previously unaware of and on more than one occasion I have had my eyes opened. I am primarily interested in UFO's and the whole Alien phenonema and have been ever since my first( I believe) sighting back in the early 70's.I am also interested in learning about "mysteries" that grab my attention such as the true history of ancient Egypt and the Sphinx and Pyramids. Loch Ness also gets my attention. I believe that there is something that inhabits the Loch but I have no idea what it may be at present. Is it a prehistoric creature? Who knows, until a dead one is washed up on the shore or a live one is captured we may never know. A prehistoric fish(celeocanth? can't spell it's name correctly) was caught by fishermen in the Indian Ocean that was supposed to have been extinct for millions of years so maybe there could be a rehistoric creature living in Loch Ness. Anyway back to the reason for this post.
I just thought that I would lighten things up slightly by sharing with you a Theory/Hypothesis which I've been kicking about in my head for a while.
If this isn't the correct place for it maybe the powers that be can move it to the correct place(and no, I don't mean the "khazi").
In our Solar System between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter is the Asteroid belt, thousands of "rocks" of various sizes that in turn orbit the Sun. Have you ever wondered where did they come from, how did they get there? My theory/hypothesis starts off by saying that they could be the remains of a Planet that suffered a cataclysmic disaster millions of years ago.
I believe that we are not alone in the Universe, in fact there may be thousands of other species/beings inhabiting the Universe. It seems that there is growing evidence/testimony/ideas(choose one or all) that aliens have been visiting Earth for thousands, if not millions of years.I asked myself, "why is this"? "What do they want"? Here is my "off the wall hypothesis".
Perhaps the Aliens were reponsible for the cataclysmic disaster that struck the Planet that we now recognise as the Asteroids.
Regarding Space Travel we are in our infancy, relying on our present methods to launch our various Space Exploration vehicles. If we are to venture out further, remember we have only been able to reach the Moon at present(manned flights), we may have to come up with a better form of propulsion. Maybe the next generation of terrestrial space craft will be nuclear powered. To me it seems the next likely step, we already have nuclear powered submarines and surface vessels.
Maybe millions of years ago an Alien Race were employing nuclear powered space craft in which to travel and explore the Universe. Supposing something, an accident/malfunction, happened to one of their spacecraft and it crashed into the Planet(Asteroids) causing a chain reaction that resulted in the Planet blowing up and ripping itself apart. I presume that a space craft capable of traversing the Universe would be huge and as such its nuclear engines would be immense, far bigger than anything that we can imagine. This may well account for the accident/malfunction being able to cause the demise of the Planet(Asteroids). The remnants of the Planet would have been thrown into space and may have well hit Mars, causing the infrastructure of
Mars to be destroyed and its atmosphere to vanish and the Planet died leaving only what we see now. Anything that is "fired" into space keeps going until it hits another "heavenly body". Supposing parts of this Planet hit the Earth and it was this event that caused the death of the dinosaurs etc. 65 million years ago. If the natural evolutionary process of the Earth was altered/changed by this event maybe the Alien Race, who unintentionally caused it, felt reponsible and obligated to try and put things right. That may be why Aliens are supposedly visiting Earth.Maybe that is why Aliens are supposedly giving us a nudge in the right direction from time to time.
I told you that it was a "crazy, off the wall theory/hypothesis" but hey, who can really say that there may not be some sense/truth in what I have come up with?
I'll leave it with you to debate and discuss to your hearts content and may "your own personal God go with you".

Doesnt sound crazy to me. Sound as good any theory I have heard. Who knows, you just be the person to hit it right! Never think your ideas or theories are off the wall, thats what help build this country.. OFF the wall ideas and theories. Keep thinking and brain storming!

Thanks cricket. I think that it's a pretty good theory even if it is "off the wall". From time to time these crazy ideas/thoughts just spring into my head, sometimes when I'm just "chilling" and not thinking of anything in particular. I know that this may sound completely crazy but sometimes I wonder if I'm not being "fed" by someone or something or is it just part of the human psyche to get these outlandish ideas from time to time?

That is not a new idea.
I first read about it in the late sixties.
It was discussed in many articles that appeared in many magazines such as Probe, Fate, Fortean times UFO Review and many others.
It was also discussed in a few books.
It was believed that the asteroid belt was the remnaints of a planet that destroyed by war.
It went on to say that mars was full of life but the people destroyed their atmosphere and pretty much all life there.:shrug: :shrug:

It IS an interesting idea, and one I've thought about. I don't think it's crazy at all. However, I think I read somewhere that scientists determined that the asteroid belt was never a planet: not enough mass.

As I understand it, the planets started out as rings of particles around the sun. These particles, caught in the sun's gravity, moved around the sun, and as they did so, they stuck together and eventually built up into planets. However, the asteroid belt was a planet that failed. These pieces never made it into a planet, only huge hunks of rock that were never drawn successfully into either Mars or Jupiter.

Don't know if it's right, but I read that somewhere.

Here, found some sources:

http://kids.nineplanets.org/asteroid.htm





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asteroid_belt


http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/solar_system/aster...mets_index.html


You can see from the use of 'believe' and 'may' that this is still an ongoing debate and is not settled though.

If what you say is right then I apologise and stand corrected. I honestly have never heard of this theory before or anything similar. I've certainly not read about it any books or anywhere else for that matter.
See, I told you that I learn new things on this forum but thankyou anyway for your input.

Hi =)



You are 1 thousand % correct.



The history of this solar system has it's violent military like moments.



Believe it or not we have the next form of propulsion already. It is called an "Ion propulsion engine" It is nothing too amazing as propulsion goes but it is the next one for our civilization. Solid state propulsion is at 1/100th to 1/1000th it's potential too. And the statement that we have nuclear power is true... but it is a bit of a miss statement... as it is not being used right. He are using it for heat, and that is like a joke. You can break mater down into energy and just use the energy. We don't do much breaking and then we trap it, thus creating heat. We get about 1/10000th what the words "nuclear power" implies. It would be more correct to call it "nuclear friction". It is power that is holding us down the most. Not propulsion. Because when you can get power out of something, you can get propulsion too.



HAHAHA :laugh: Lol! that is funny! But it is not that quite that easy. No, it was quite deliberate and no "Death Stars" where involved either. It had a name, depending on pronunciation, naming standard and language it varied. While I am no source for names, I believe Pohellion, Phehealeion and something close to "Poseidon" are few it was known by. Or so I was told.



Yes, your right, they do get huge, and when they get that big and/or very heavily armored they do not use nuclear power. It is not enough. Also, they can not travel across the "universe". I don't know of any craft that can. It is much too big.



No, not even that could result in what happened to Mars. Mars was also deliberate but not at all on the same scale. It was also not at all in the same time period. Mars was very recent. We already have the technology to do what was done to Mars. We just have not tested it on that scale. But others have.... It required only 1 of their biggest battleships in orbit and about 2 days to do it, it was done about 1200 years ago. The radiation still washes across it's surface wiping life out in any form if there still is any.



Err.. well, if you think that is crazy, one day you may just find out what really happened! It is even crazier! Rest assured, you are not even close. And don't bother asking me what happened. I still don't know it either, nor am I on a mission to find out. I don't care to know really. I just want to see a better future. The past is crazy yet mostly a story on what not to do. We may like to think of how much chance got in there and "Walla!" we have modern day! But it really was not so coincidental. But merely the acts of a great many over a great amount of time, and in some cases, some amazing individuals. And today, we are still recovering form our dark age. No single group was able to witness everything and thus record it, so we may never know. If anyone could ever peace it together I would be amazed. It would also make for a very very very big book.

I have just read your post and I am rather intrigued. You have raised, in me, some interesting questions and have given me much food for thought.
What I would like to know is where you get your information from?
Who or what told you the things that you have related in your post?
Please do not take my questions the wrong way. I am certainly NOT saying that I disbelieve you or that I think that you're making any of it up.
You have grabbed my attention and I would love to learn more.LOL.

Hmm.. I understand but I would rather not state where it came from. Also, it didn't come from one source. The key was not the source, as there are sources everywhere. It was how to validate the information anyway. I offer my opinion, not my sources.

17 years ago I was doing something and the next thing I know I have my hands on a drawing. It is rough but seems to be a engine of some kind and says some information about Ion propulsion. It was very old indeed. 7 years later I saw that engine in a popular Science mag. It was not that it was used by anyone, just that it existed before the researchers had worked it out for themselves. NASA's was much cruder then what I saw but it seems the mystery of Ion engines had been resolved and NASA got a revolutionary "new" design. But good luck getting that document out of the hands of it's buyer ever again!

So I can't give you my sources. But I can talk all about ships, or what ever. I am no god of all knowing but can rock anyone's world with random stuff! Ask away and you will get my opinion. Nothing more, nothing less. I must edit why it is my opinion but no one cares what it is. Also I try to stay out of giving my opinion if I have no knowledge that what i am saying has validity. This in part is where I get that "stated with certainty" I get accused of now and then. It is because I do know!

I can say the Alien base on the back side of the moon has 15 underground levels, no elevators, is decorated in the popular and distinct color of gray. That it has a cargo ship that comes and goes every 3 months and that this is done with 2 ships on 6 mouth round trip schedules, that when they depart they shake the ground and is why the moon has on the spot 3 mouth waits between "Moonshakes" that NASA keeps getting with the sensors they placed in the surface of the moon and so on is ALL MY OPINION! Never mind why I have certainty on these EXACT things and not on simple stuff like what is above ground (He just didn't say anything about what was above ground) What?! that last was a typo! lol. I got sources but can't give you them, nor links.

Can't give us your links or the source, jeez like we havent heard that line before....:laugh: