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Jun 27 2008, 10:32 PM
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Watch the video
http://www.disclose.tv/viewvideo/4471/Crop...Over_7_Minutes/ QUOTE Would it surprise you that crop circle hoaxers see UFO's when they are hoaxing. But even the greatest hoaxer could not accomplish this feat. Filmed over night a 7 minute crop appeared ...now you...don't see it, now you do, crop circle. -Harlekin (video uploader)
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Jun 27 2008, 10:32 PM
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Jun 28 2008, 02:50 AM
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![]() The Skeptical Child Group: Supporters Posts: 2,293 Joined: 29-April 07 From: Japan Member No.: 5,722 |
Lol, there's almost NOTHING about the actual video of the crop circle. I guess we'll just have to take his word for it. As for the lights seen in the field ... surely not hooded flashlights, right?
Such a thing is NOT impossible to do in the dark. You'd just need a lot of people working together. Here's how I would do it. 1) Map it out on a grip paper. Figure out the design. 2) Find a place and practice it. 3) Use guidelines. Now, you have two essentially similar shapes. Start with a guidewire on a stake in the center. Use a marked, premeasured rope, and a simple protractor to project the angle (with distance marked on the rope) to the center of each of the subsequent circles. Stake them. Each circle will have its own team with its own measured rope secured around the central stake. You may have several groups on each circle, especially the bigger ones, to manage it more quickly. Stretch the rope to its measured length, line your team along the rope, and use a pre-made set of presses to press the grasses down. Heavy rollers might work as long as you could turn them around the arc. Just run your teams in circles, pack up and leave. With enough people and equipment, you could do it in 7 minutes ... or you could take longer and just edit the film. -------------------- "A Wise Man looks at a grain of sand and sees the Universe...
A Silly Man picks up a piece of seeweed, puts it around his neck and runs along the beach yelling: Look at me, I'm The Vine Man... Dingo Brains |
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Jun 28 2008, 02:56 AM
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With enough people and equipment, you could do it in 7 minutes ... or you could take longer and just edit the film.
A herd of people in the dark, doing complex work. Can they moo while they work? I agree that the film shows very little. But your hypothesis stretches the imagination to the point of rediculous. |
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Jun 28 2008, 05:28 AM
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![]() The Skeptical Child Group: Supporters Posts: 2,293 Joined: 29-April 07 From: Japan Member No.: 5,722 |
Not at all. They're following a rope in a circle. They could do it blindfolded. It's already been demonstrated that people have made crop circles in the dark. It's been tested repeatedly. Hoaxsters have even admitted to it. It doesn't mean crop circles are all hoaxes, it just means it's possible. So what's more ridiculous, Bart? A group of organized college students with nothing better to do on a Friday night pulling off a hoax ... or secret powers somehow making a crop circle. I find the alternative to my theory hopelessly silly, because my theory has already been tested, albeit not in 7 minutes. The time deadline is just another hurdle, and it IS possible.
-------------------- "A Wise Man looks at a grain of sand and sees the Universe...
A Silly Man picks up a piece of seeweed, puts it around his neck and runs along the beach yelling: Look at me, I'm The Vine Man... Dingo Brains |
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Jun 28 2008, 06:17 AM
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The time deadline is just another hurdle, and it IS possible.
Possible yes. Plausable? I have some problems with it. Where did that many people dissapear to immediatly after. They would have to have gotten prepared for this, as in team practice. Governments have trouble keeping secrets. How you going to get a group of college kids or whatever to keep silent. No one bragging, look what I did. I agree that it could have been faked, but the people filming would have to be in on it. Anybody know anything about them? As to ET trying to communicate with us through crop circle symbolism? Rediculous. If they had something valid to say there are many clear and non ambiguious ways to do that. The only reason to play silly pictogram games is to confuse, befuddle, and create false beliefs. Make people buy into some semi religious BS. Oh they love us they really do. They want to raise our consciousness. Maybe they want to sell us some snake oil too. It is a scam. ET or otherwise. These are the classical signs of a user seeking to take advantage. Make us think they are more powerful and omniscient than they really are. Encourage people to buy into something that supports their internal belief systems. Abduct and take what you want, give back nothing, illusion to make people feel wonderful about beig used. Never allow proof that it could really be. Keep them guessing. I vote scam. The only question now is who the scammers are. ET or silly humans? |
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Jun 28 2008, 06:31 AM
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![]() The Skeptical Child Group: Supporters Posts: 2,293 Joined: 29-April 07 From: Japan Member No.: 5,722 |
To be completely honest, Bart, I think it far more likely that the videographers are lying than that they were duped. I don't believe the 7minute thing for a second ... much less 7 minutes.
-------------------- "A Wise Man looks at a grain of sand and sees the Universe...
A Silly Man picks up a piece of seeweed, puts it around his neck and runs along the beach yelling: Look at me, I'm The Vine Man... Dingo Brains |
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Jun 28 2008, 10:07 AM
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Hate to say it, but crop circles are a &u@$ing joke. A bunch of kids taking retard 101 could figure out crop circles. Think about it, what could possibly be the function of a crop circle? Dumb, frail humans can land a spaceship on Mars within yards of where they wanted it in the arctic by pre-programming due to time delay, but aliens with technology beyond our imagination need navigational aids? Do yourselves a favor, file crop circles right alongside perpetual motion, and move on.
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Jun 29 2008, 12:46 PM
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okay, listen here...they were filming (I'm sure they have time stamps or this wouldn't have been credible).............they saw NO crop circle...........7 minutes later they DID see a crop circle. I don't care if you're God, you can't tell me that's not real. My only beef about the video is that it is far too dark to see anything on it so yeah we have to take people's word for it, but hell I take people word for shit all the time but I am careful, I don't get fooled a lot because I actually pick only the serious most credible things to show interest in. Because of the nature of the time limit being 7 minutes...I have to believe something is going on. They didn't even say it TOOK 7 minutes to create the crop circle. It just appeared from light, it probably took only a minute but they didn't see it until 7 minutes later. It's just wierd dude. Of all the crop circle documentaries I have seen and fakes, and yes I have seen the boards with the rope...I have never once believed in crop circles as coming from outerspace. But for some reason I just can't see this as being man-made. Any other day I would believe you Kirin you know that. You're a very smart guy and I respect what you say a lot. And I am happy for you helping us to see where hoaxes can be formated to create these elaborate designs cause I do believe you, there are far more hoaxes than truths and people need to know about it. I hate to say we may have to disagree, but heck I may be wrong, all I know is that something inside of me said "That's it!" and that usually doesn't happen very often. Anyhoo peace my brother, keep making people aware, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that, it makes you a better person for it.
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Jun 29 2008, 05:13 PM
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![]() The Skeptical Child Group: Supporters Posts: 2,293 Joined: 29-April 07 From: Japan Member No.: 5,722 |
Well, as a skeptic, it's what I do. I try to debunk and look for alternative explanations. This is just my opinion, and I wasn't there. I'm not saying "this is what happened", only "this is how it could have been done". Likewise, I stand by what I said: I don't think the videographers are being honest about the time.
-------------------- "A Wise Man looks at a grain of sand and sees the Universe...
A Silly Man picks up a piece of seeweed, puts it around his neck and runs along the beach yelling: Look at me, I'm The Vine Man... Dingo Brains |
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Jun 29 2008, 06:23 PM
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Well, as a skeptic, it's what I do. I try to debunk and look for alternative explanations. This is just my opinion, and I wasn't there. I'm not saying "this is what happened", only "this is how it could have been done". Likewise, I stand by what I said: I don't think the videographers are being honest about the time. I think it's good that you are skeptical. I think we all need to be a bit skeptical, if we aren't we'd be believing everything we see and that wouldn't be good, trust me I've seen people who did that so anyway...I'm glad you voiced your opinion, I love reading them. -------------------- ![]() |
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Jun 30 2008, 12:55 AM
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To Stonehenge in the evening there was not any crop circles , I assure it to you. The morning later to Stonehenge there was a crop circle great as a football field. This has been considered one of the you look for greater appeared in England. To visit to the inside this crop circle , I have employed a whole day. This crop circle in England The Bow has been called. Who has realized this crop circle ? The alien ones ? The Government ? The circlemakers ? -------------------- ![]() ![]() |
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