My best friend was experiencing terrible back aches last night, so she took a couple muscle relaxers and sleeping pills (I do not know the names, sorry) to help relieve the pain. Much like the very few other times she had taken these pills, she began to “hallucinate.” At both her house and mine, while under the influence of these pills, she had seen ghost-like features, although both houses had had different ones in them. She won’t talk about what she has seen at her house once before, but while in my living room last night (in the dark) she claimed to have seen a figure that resembled the Grim Reaper pointing to my bedroom door, an extremely skin, naked man standing outside of my mother’s bedroom, and a dark silhouette inside my walk-in closet (which we have always suspected may have something in it).

Yes, these could easily be your basic drug-tripping hallucinations caused by a mixture in medications. However, I have been contemplating something different… Drugs of any kind put you into a different state-of-mind, and what if, at certain levels in your conscious, these temporary chemical changes are capable of heightening certain abilities to detect things that we would not in a normal state? I think it would depend on the drugs, or combination of them, and where you are, but I believe it may be possible.

Any thoughts?

there is a peruvian tribe that goes up a mountain and drinks a hallucinogenic extract until they start puking and talking to angels... & stuff.

i'm sure theres a lil' more to it, but several cultures have vision quest type rituals were they smoke, eat, or drink strange things in an effort to see or venture into the spirit world.

this is reminding me of that scene from Young Guns... where they hit the peyote:

"hey dog... you see the size of that chicken?"

"...how come they ain't killing us?"
"because we're in the spirit world, asshole. they can't see us."

I know what you're saying here.
But how?

Our physical senses no matter how heightened could never help us see that which is physically not of this world.

Do you believe it effects us in other ways that perhaps make this possible.

How too, could we prove they are real spirits, and not hallucinations?

Sorry to interrupt this thread, but if and when she takes these pills, she may be having a reaction to the pills. She should stop and consult her doctor.
I am now returning this thread back to its former way. Thank you

Did her doctor prescibe these pills?

I agree with Soul and Cricket.

First and foremost, before you go the spirit route, realize she's under the influence of something and greater odds are in favor of these hallucinations being just that whilst under the influence.

Plus, in all seriousness she should consult her doctor and make sure she's not allergic, or having a bad reaction, or suffering from something else that's exacerbated by the medication.

Get the obvious out of the way first, if that doesn't explain it, start looking to the less than obvious.

Some sleeping pills can make you have very vivid hallucinations. Especially stuff like Stildem (Zolpidem).

http://www.eknowhow.com/ekh_drugdatabase/h...7&nav_top_id=56

Yes, they're prescription drugs. It's not an "allergic reaction" and, as I already pointed out, I am aware that it could easily be simple drug hallucinations. But, other than her case, I've heard accounts of people taking mind-altering substances and experiences things far out of the normal. Even if that's not her situation, what about in general?

When you are on a mind altering substance exactly what benchmark is used to gauge a normal experience vs. not normal?

Do you see what I'm saying?

In regard to your friends situation, it doesn't really seem like you've done much to discount the meds as being the primary reason for her "visions." You've merely discounted that possibility to pursue one which is a thousand fold more unlikely. :headscrat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBb6YLLnYLU

He's already said many times that he knows that is very likely it is caused by mixing the meds. But he is asking "What if?" pretty much.

He's a she.

And what she should do is counsel her friend to speak with her doctor if her meds are making her hallucinate.

Contemplate to your hearts content once you are 100% sure no one is in medical danger. Not before.

Haha i just noticed who the poster was, sorry GrabThyHand:surrender . I agree that that is what she should do but thats not what you where saying earlier.

Sure it is, look at post #6. I say it clear as day.

But either way, in regard to the original thought by GTH many religions believe that intoxication opens the mind to spiritual possession and things of that nature. So this idea of heightened awareness to other realms while intoxicated has been considered before. You may want to look into it, it's interesting stuff.

It clicks into certain areas in your brain. And in this case, it sounds like these meds make her tap into some type of medium/psychic area. Where she can see these things that are there.

I do not believe there is any area of our physical brains that could be responsible for anything truely mystical or psychic.
If meds induce this, then is is my opinion, it is doing it by weakening the barrier between the physical and our spirit/soul inside. I believe any abilities of these kind, are a manifestation of our spirit/soul.
Of coarse, I could be wrong.:shrug:

Could you get another link for this site, the one you posted doesent seem to work.
Legal pills that induce hallucination; sounds good