There are many inventors working on a variety of inventions that sound very promising.
This is a story of Stan Meyers and his special hydrogen generator.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWOxnXKB8VQ

Free Energy Home Generator

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efCelx7qe_M

it doesnt tell you where to get these generators

Nor does it tell you how they work. There are lots of claims and anecdotal evidence, but nothing convincing.

I like how the idiot journalist in the second video says "twenty-four kilowatts of power per day." Journalists are in general very poorly educated, and I will not take it upon their authority that these free energy machines are viable. Interestingly, free energy devices appear in the media often (although nothing ever becomes of them, what with the claims not living up to the reality), the same media that apparently the conventional energy industry "controls".

You are too pessimistic.

What the journalist said was probably what was told to him by the inventor.
Much of what they claim could be checked out.
There is a web site devoted to gas and energy saving and generating devices and their opinions of.
lutec is a Austrailian company that is founded by the inventor and is supposedly closer than any to an actual sellable machine.

I do not know about anyone else, but I do not make lots and lots of money to keep throwing it at the oil companies(with their record profits), power companies with their ever rising kilowatt charges not to mention heating oil, propane or natural gas.
If there is a slightest chance some energy generating will come down the pipe, I want to be there to get an early chance at it.

Austrailia, I would assume....in one year.

If this proves to be what they claim it is.

Well, that does not say a lot for the inventor's competence. Use of the expression "X kilowatts of power per day" demonstrates that the user has no comprehension of what power is, something taught in every school. True, watts are units of power, but power is a rate of doing work. Therefore "watts per day" implies some rate of change of power--i.e. that the rate at which work is done has changed over the course of a day. It would be sensible to say that the invention "produced X kilowatts on average for one day," or that "it produced X kilowatt-hours in one day." But to say "kilowatts per day" reveals a fundamental ignorance.

This post has been edited by Andrew: Mar 17 2008, 04:59 AM

I understand what you are saying. I took robotics electronics and industrial electricity and currently work in maintenance at a large industry.
His poor way of describing its capabilities may be intentional. He does supposedly have the support of the electrical engineer and the local university there is interested.
Some inventors know well what they are doing but do not communicate well with others. It can make them look like idiots and this can lead to their downfall reguardless of whether their invention works or not.
I am hoping that this one pans out. I have been monitoring an armlong list of different ideas that have been worked on over the years, none as yet has come to maket. But that does not mean that they do not work, as claimed either. There are many hurdles before they become readily available to everyone.
Dennis Lee had a promising unit. It was suppose to have been available back in 2005...
Parendev's unit is available for industrial rental, but the cost is redicules...self defeating.
The list goes on.
Lutec so far has held out. We'll see after one year from now.

Why would an inventor not apply for a patent long before he had plans of production? That would leave the idea both open to peer review and give the inventor the rights to his concept.

I don't trust scientific stuff that is not published.

But all these inventors have applied for and recieved patents. From Canada, the United States and abroad.
Copies of the patents are viewable at many of these sites.

I am very cautious of the claims but open minded to the possibility that one or more may be just what is claimed.

Vapor carburators was a big subject years ago. And naturally there were a lot of skeptics.
I have a home built one on my Chevy pickup. They do double your mileage, but since they are a home built unit, reliability can be an issue sometimes.

Free Energy was invented by Tesla.

He recommended making Radium or transmuting nucleus of gases
or atomic elements under AW 19 by UV to induce ionization for
direct electric generation. A spark sets out positive and negative
charges for current storage and by the non relativistic process
the nucleus returns to normal for the process to begin again.

The isotope process (not the transmutation one) was foot noted in
"Physical Chemistry" 1965 which for some reason when googled is
not readily available.

Other devices use earth vibrations. Its like using a seismonitor to
vary a magnetic air gap as a way to vary larger current.

Adding permanent magnets to monopole co generators is another
way to capture free energy.

What a load of pseudo-scientific nonsense.

"The water fuel cell is a device invented by American
Stanley Allen Meyer, which he claimed could convert water into its component elements, hydrogen and oxygen, using less energy than can be obtained by the subsequent combustion of those elements, a process that results the reconstitution of the water molecules. Thus, if the device operated as claimed, the combustion cycle would start and end in the same state while extracting usable energy, thereby violating both the first and second laws of thermodynamics,[1] allowing operation as a perpetual motion machine.

"Meyer's claims about his "Water Fuel Cell" and the car that it powered were found to be fraudulent by an Ohio court in 1996.[2]"

More at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Meyer
With sourced references.

from what i recall, he extracted hydrogen from water using some sort of electric pulse. but it would still take energy to run that... i think he had it hooked up to an alternator and a battery.

either way, extracting hydrogen from water in the way he does it, if its real, which i feel it is. (if at least partly real.) sure does impress me...

but im not sure if im behind the whole hydrogen thing... just for the simple fact that i am tired of combustion engines, and combustion in general, lol...

i think there is more energy to be harnessed in magnetism. but thats just my retarded opinion=P

This post has been edited by vyrtigo: Aug 9 2008, 09:47 AM