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No branch of the United States Government is currently involved with or responsible for investigations into the possibility of alien life on other planets or for investigating Unidentified Flying Objects (UFO's). The U.S. Air Force (USAF) and NASA have had intermittent, independent investigations of the possibility of alien life on other planets however, none of these has produced factual evidence that life exists on other planets, nor that UFO's are related to aliens.

Under Project Blue Book (1947 to 1969), the Air Force investigated UFO's then in 1977, NASA was asked to examine the possibility of resuming UFO investigations. After studying all of the facts available, it was determined that nothing would be gained by further investigation, since there was an absence of tangible evidence.

In October 1992, NASA was directed by Congress to begin a detailed search for artificial radio signals from other civilizations under the NASA Towards Other Planetary Systems (TOPS)/High Resolution Microwave Survey (HRMS) program (also known as the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence project). Congress directed NASA to end this project in October 1993, citing pressures on the US Federal budget. The HRMS did not detect any confirmed signal before it was stopped. However, similar work will continue in a more limited manner through efforts of private groups and through academic institutions. The Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence Institute (SETI Institute) in Mountain View, CA, effectively replaced the Government project, borrowing the signal processing system from NASA. The SETI Institute is a nonprofit corporation conducting research in a number of fields including all science and technology aspects of astronomy and planetary sciences, chemical evolution, the origin of life, biological evolution, and cultural evolution.

During several space missions, NASA astronauts have reported phenomena not immediately explainable however, in every instance NASA determined that the observations could not be termed " abnormal" in the space environment.

The 1947 to 1969 USAF investigations studied UFO's under Project Blue Book. The project, headquartered at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio, was terminated December 17, 1969. Of the total of 12,618 sightings reported to Project Blue Book, 701 remain " unidentified."

The decision to discontinue UFO investigations was based on an evaluation of a report prepared by the University of Colorado entitled, " Scientific Study of Unidentified Flying Objects " a review of the University of Colorado's report by the National Academy of Sciences previous UFO studies and Air Force experience investigating UFO reports during the 1940s, '50s and '60s.

As a result of experience, investigations, and studies since 1948, the conclusions of Project Blue Book were: (1) no UFO reported, investigated, and evaluated by the Air Force was ever a threat to our national security (2) there was no evidence submitted to, or discovered by, the Air Force that sightings categorized as " unidentified" represented technological developments or principles beyond the range of modern scientific knowledge and (3) there was no evidence indicating that sightings categorized as " unidentified" were extraterrestrial vehicles.

With the termination of Project Blue Book, the USAF regulation establishing and controlling the program for investigating and analyzing UFO's was rescinded. Documentation regarding the former Project Blue Book investigation was permanently transferred to the Modern Military Branch, National Archives and Records Service, in Washington, DC 20408, and is available for public review and analysis.

Since the termination of Project Blue Book, nothing has occurred that would support a resumption of UFO investigations by the USAF or NASA. Given the current environment of steadily decreasing defense and space budgets, it is unlikely that the Air Force or NASA will become involved in this type of costly project in the foreseeable future.

Since neither NASA nor the Air Force is engaged in day-to-day UFO research, neither one reviews UFO-related articles intended for publication, evaluates UFO-type spacecraft drawings, or accepts accounts of UFO sightings or applications for employment in the field of aerial phenomena investigation.

UFO Points of Contact
  • For further information on the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence, see the The SETI Institute's Web Site.
  • News media requiring Project Blue Book files should contact the National Archives Public Affairs Office, (202) 501-5525. Public queries should be addressed to the Project Blue Book archivist at (202) 501-5385. For queries not related to Project Blue Book, contact the National Archives receptionist at (202) 501-5400. Documentation is available from: Modern Military Branch, National Archives and Records Service, Eighth Street and Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, Washington, DC 20408.
  • The Air Force publication, " The Roswell Report: Fact Vs. Fiction in the New Mexico Desert," a lengthy document providing all of the details available from the Air Force on the Roswell incident, is available for $52 from the US Government Printing Office, Superintendent of Documents, Mail Stop: SSOP, Washington, DC 20402-9328.
  • There are a number of universities and professional scientific organizations that have considered UFO phenomena during periodic meetings and seminars. A list of private organizations interested in aerial phenomena may be found in Gale's Encyclopedia of Associations.
  • Persons wishing to report UFO sightings are advised to contact law enforcement agencies.


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post Mar 25 2008, 07:16 AM
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QUOTE (bostondan @ Mar 9 2008, 09:13 PM) *
No branch of the United States Government is currently involved with or responsible for investigations into the possibility of alien life on other planets or for investigating Unidentified Flying Objects (UFO's). The U.S. Air Force (USAF) and NASA have had intermittent, independent investigations of the possibility of alien life on other planets however, none of these has produced factual evidence that life exists on other planets, nor that UFO's are related to aliens.




Under Project Blue Book (1947 to 1969), the Air Force investigated UFO's then in 1977, NASA was asked to examine the possibility of resuming UFO investigations. After studying all of the facts available, it was determined that nothing would be gained by further investigation, since there was an absence of tangible evidence.



In October 1992, NASA was directed by Congress to begin a detailed search for artificial radio signals from other civilizations under the NASA Towards Other Planetary Systems (TOPS)/High Resolution Microwave Survey (HRMS) program (also known as the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence project). Congress directed NASA to end this project in October 1993, citing pressures on the US Federal budget. The HRMS did not detect any confirmed signal before it was stopped. However, similar work will continue in a more limited manner through efforts of private groups and through academic institutions. The Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence Institute (SETI Institute) in Mountain View, CA, effectively replaced the Government project, borrowing the signal processing system from NASA. The SETI Institute is a nonprofit corporation conducting research in a number of fields including all science and technology aspects of astronomy and planetary sciences, chemical evolution, the origin of life, biological evolution, and cultural evolution.



During several space missions, NASA astronauts have reported phenomena not immediately explainable however, in every instance NASA determined that the observations could not be termed " abnormal" in the space environment.



The 1947 to 1969 USAF investigations studied UFO's under Project Blue Book. The project, headquartered at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio, was terminated December 17, 1969. Of the total of 12,618 sightings reported to Project Blue Book, 701 remain " unidentified."



The decision to discontinue UFO investigations was based on an evaluation of a report prepared by the University of Colorado entitled, " Scientific Study of Unidentified Flying Objects " a review of the University of Colorado's report by the National Academy of Sciences previous UFO studies and Air Force experience investigating UFO reports during the 1940s, '50s and '60s.



As a result of experience, investigations, and studies since 1948, the conclusions of Project Blue Book were: (1) no UFO reported, investigated, and evaluated by the Air Force was ever a threat to our national security (2) there was no evidence submitted to, or discovered by, the Air Force that sightings categorized as " unidentified" represented technological developments or principles beyond the range of modern scientific knowledge and (3) there was no evidence indicating that sightings categorized as " unidentified" were extraterrestrial vehicles.



With the termination of Project Blue Book, the USAF regulation establishing and controlling the program for investigating and analyzing UFO's was rescinded. Documentation regarding the former Project Blue Book investigation was permanently transferred to the Modern Military Branch, National Archives and Records Service, in Washington, DC 20408, and is available for public review and analysis.



Since the termination of Project Blue Book, nothing has occurred that would support a resumption of UFO investigations by the USAF or NASA. Given the current environment of steadily decreasing defense and space budgets, it is unlikely that the Air Force or NASA will become involved in this type of costly project in the foreseeable future.



Since neither NASA nor the Air Force is engaged in day-to-day UFO research, neither one reviews UFO-related articles intended for publication, evaluates UFO-type spacecraft drawings, or accepts accounts of UFO sightings or applications for employment in the field of aerial phenomena investigation.



UFO Points of Contact


  • For further information on the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence,
    see the The SETI Institute's Web Site.
  • News media requiring Project Blue Book files should contact the National
    Archives Public Affairs Office, (202) 501-5525. Public queries should be addressed
    to the Project Blue Book archivist at (202) 501-5385. For queries not related
    to Project Blue Book, contact the National Archives receptionist at (202)
    501-5400. Documentation is available from: Modern Military Branch, National
    Archives and Records Service, Eighth Street and Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, Washington,
    DC 20408.
  • The Air Force publication, " The Roswell Report: Fact Vs. Fiction in the
    New Mexico Desert," a lengthy document providing all of the details available
    from the Air Force on the Roswell incident, is available for $52 from the
    US Government Printing Office, Superintendent of Documents, Mail Stop: SSOP,
    Washington, DC 20402-9328.
  • There are a number of universities and professional scientific organizations
    that have considered UFO phenomena during periodic meetings and seminars.
    A list of private organizations interested in aerial phenomena may be found
    in Gale's Encyclopedia of Associations.
  • Persons wishing to report UFO sightings are advised to contact law enforcement
    agencies.



ok, THink of it like this. Whenever someone says why doint you investigate? They bring fwd Project Bluebook. Duh, that was a piece of bread thrown to the little people. (us) Just to say, " Ok son, I'lll look in your closet for monsters. .. Nope Nothing there" case closed. Do some research. the US and other countries have been everywhere. and already know what they are, where they came from, what they are made of, etc.. there are WORLDS of exploration of planets, Galexy's and even "time" . No agency that is SOMEONE is going to say they are researching. WHy research Cancer if they already know? Brodden your mind. open yourself to the bigger picture. Everytime i see the picture it gets bigger and 100 times larger than I could ever imagine..

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post Mar 25 2008, 08:24 AM
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OHC, this is one of your three posts in the forums in which in ALL 3 you berate people for coming to conclusions that differ from yours and in each case you imply they are not open minded and they did not do any research when in fact they did do research…hmmm

Yet you, on the other hand, are just throwing out your beliefs here without showing us any of your research results.
Just speculations of yours or someone else's...

What’s up with that?

You say you are of Negrone descent?
You’re descended from a ‘cocktail'? Way Kool! Welcome to the forum OHC!!!.

Btw OHC… When you present outrageous claims like “the US and other countries have been everywhere. and already know what they are, where they came from…” show us your research results sweety. We are all hoping to find solid evidence ETB’s are visiting Earth… ~rore

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post Mar 25 2008, 08:50 AM
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NASA's public involvement is nothing more than a PR move. Just like Project Blue Book was.
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post Mar 27 2008, 06:42 PM
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You know the bottom line with regard to NASA and UFOs is that they really have little to do with each other. NASA is the National Space and Aeronautics Administration. They are there to research and bridge the gap between man and space (or high altitudes). "Investigating" aliens is a side note and really has little to do with why they are there. I am not saying it has nothing to do with them, as NASA was given the job of getting us an idea of what is out there.

At this point they have made it clear that they don't want the job either. Too much of their founding and governing has no interest in bringing aliens to light. Even if they did find something I doubt they would tell you about it.
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post Mar 28 2008, 06:56 AM
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QUOTE (ScottMan @ Mar 28 2008, 12:32 AM) *
You know the bottom line with regard to NASA and UFOs is that they really have little to do with each other. NASA is the National Space and Aeronautics Administration. They are there to research and bridge the gap between man and space (or high altitudes). "Investigating" aliens is a side note and really has little to do with why they are there. I am not saying it has nothing to do with them, as NASA was given the job of getting us an idea of what is out there.

At this point they have made it clear that they don't want the job either. Too much of their founding and governing has no interest in bringing aliens to light. Even if they did find something I doubt they would tell you about it.

NASA=never a straight answer.
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post May 11 2008, 02:31 PM
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Hello everyone, I'm new here, what a great site. Anyway just found this link on NASA.

WASHINGTON -- NASA has scheduled a media teleconference Wednesday, May 14, at 1 p.m. EDT, to announce the discovery of an object in our Galaxy astronomers have been hunting for more than 50 years. This finding was made by combining data from NASA's Chandra X-ray Observatory with ground-based observations.

http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2008/may/H...a_Advisory.html

Wonder what they found? My guess is the proof of dark matter or a black hole. Sorry if anyone has posted this already.


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post May 12 2008, 01:26 AM
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Sounds like something solid(an object).maybe dark matter,but i doubt it,cos i think it is everywhere in the universe not just in a particular place.possibly a black hole,but is that an object.What did they start looking for fifty years ago?the edge of the universe.
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post May 12 2008, 01:34 AM
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a thought just occurred to me,and that dosen't happen often.we started looking for life on other worlds that may harbour life.Wouldn't it be great,but bet you its a long way and we are seeing it as it was 100,00 years ago.don't want to build my hopes up.
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Rumour has it, that NASA finally spotted a black hole in deep space for the very first time, if so, it's no longer a therory and that they do exist.

God, I hope it's not coming towards us ohmy.gif

Heck, Panet X and now this?! dry.gif



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Chandra Uncovers Youngest Supernova in Our Galaxy05.14.08
Supernova remnant G1.9+0.3. Image Credit: X-ray (NASA/CXC/NCSU/S. Reynolds et al.); Radio (NSF/NRAO/VLA/Cambridge/D. Green et al.); Infrared (2MASS/UMass/IPAC-Caltech/NASA/NSF/CfA/E. Bressert)
The most recent supernova in our galaxy has been discovered by tracking the rapid expansion of its remains. This result, using NASA's Chandra X-ray Observatory and the National Radio Astronomy Observatory's Very Large Array, will help improve our understanding of how often supernovae explode in the Milky Way galaxy.

The supernova explosion occurred about 140 years ago, making it the most recent in the Milky Way. Previously, the last known supernova in our galaxy occurred around 1680, an estimate based on the expansion of its remnant, Cassiopeia A.

Finding such a recent, obscured supernova is a first step in making a better estimate of how often the stellar explosions occur. This is important because supernovae heat and redistribute large amounts of gas, and pump heavy elements out into their surroundings. They can trigger the formation of new stars as part of a cycle of stellar death and rebirth. The explosion also can leave behind, in addition to the expanding remnant, a central neutron star or black hole.

The recent supernova explosion was not seen with optical telescopes because it occurred close to the center of the galaxy and is embedded in a dense field of gas and dust. This made the object about a trillion times fainter, in optical light, than an unobscured supernova. However, the remnant it caused can be seen by X-ray and radio telescopes.

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/chandra/news/08-062.html


Wow and I thought it might be Planet X.... It took them five days to let us know that. I'm so bummed out right now.

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I'd like to ask a question of you all. Before you answer I'd like all of you to really think about the question and the answer you give. It's really a simple question and I don't imagine you'd have to be a "rocket-scientist" to understand or answer it.
Why, whenever any Government Agency, Branch of the Military, N.A.S.A or S.E.T.I. release a statement saying that they have fully investigated the whole phenonema of UFO's etc and they have found no evidence to support the theory that UFO's are real, does the public instantly believe them and conclude that they must be telling the truth?
I presume that there are many of you who have seen, or believe that you have, UFO's. There are probably many of you that have Photos and/or Videos of UFO's (or you believe you have ). Does this mean that you have either been hallucinating or have been lying because your respective Governments have told you that UFO's don't exist?
Now, I leave you all to answer the question.
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QUOTE (JUSTVISITING @ May 15 2008, 05:25 AM) *
I'd like to ask a question of you all. Before you answer I'd like all of you to really think about the question and the answer you give. It's really a simple question and I don't imagine you'd have to be a "rocket-scientist" to understand or answer it.
Why, whenever any Government Agency, Branch of the Military, N.A.S.A or S.E.T.I. release a statement saying that they have fully investigated the whole phenonema of UFO's etc and they have found no evidence to support the theory that UFO's are real, does the public instantly believe them and conclude that they must be telling the truth?
I presume that there are many of you who have seen, or believe that you have, UFO's. There are probably many of you that have Photos and/or Videos of UFO's (or you believe you have ). Does this mean that you have either been hallucinating or have been lying because your respective Governments have told you that UFO's don't exist?
Now, I leave you all to answer the question.


Yes.
Anybody that has done a reasonable amount of research and investigation knows that there have been many government agencies that have been involved with the UFO phenomena and that the government is hiding a huge amount of what they know about it along with recovered artifacts, period.
If you are one that does not believe that, then you need to do a lot more research or get your head out of the sand.
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we are told there is a god,but no one has seen him or taken pics,so the only evidence is a book written 2,000 or so years ago,but millions believe in him.There is a vast amount of evidence that proves somthing strange is going on up there and down here,i'm not so sure that ufo's come from space,and i certainly don't believe everything the government tells me.
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Let's ask this question? How many of you seen something that looks strange and is out of the norm when looking up? Everyday I look up and all I see is aircraft flying everywhere, human made of course... Not once have I ever seen a flying saucer or the famous triangler aircraft that others have seen other than the B2 bomber.

My guess is, that they know how to hide themselves at will.

Which brings me to the next question...Why hide, unless you have something to hide?
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apparently they don't hide all the time,if any of the thousands of photos and video footage are to be believed.my guess is if they were hiding, they would remain hidden,thus no ufo mysteries. even if only 1% of the evdience is real and i was a government official i would want a serious and public investigation into it.

the problem is when you have secretive organisations,it breeds suspision.the only ones hiding are the governments and the military.hiding the truth.
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Project Blue Book never came to the conclusion that nothing was there, it tried to show that there was no threat to national security. People talk of disinformation. There is disinformation, but there are no disinformation agents so to speak. The start of Blue Book was a quick, "let's shut everyone up project". They came up with their conclusion before they even started the investigation. Even the project lead, who was a staunch UFO debunker, became a believer. (Another reason Dr. Hyneck is my hero.) Those that worked on the project wanted to investigate further, but those that were in charge that did not actually do the field work were still not convinced there was something to it. If your boss told you to say something you didn't believe, but he is still your boss, what do you say? Why did they do this? Stop mass hysteria while they investigate further? Who knows?

Are they still investigating? Probably. Would the advertise this fact after Project Blue Book? Probably not. Would someone lie about it if put on the spot? More than likely. Is there people sitting around coming up with just in case lies about the subject, thus making them disinformation agents? Not likely.


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QUOTE (SOUL-DRIFTER @ May 15 2008, 12:38 PM) *
Yes.
Anybody that has done a reasonable amount of research and investigation knows that there have been many government agencies that have been involved with the UFO phenomena and that the government is hiding a huge amount of what they know about it along with recovered artifacts, period.
If you are one that does not believe that, then you need to do a lot more research or get your head out of the sand.


SOUL-DRIFTER, Hi.

I am actually one of those people that DOES believe in UFO's. I have been lucky enough to have, what I believe, five sightings of a UFO stretching back from the early 70's to this year. On each occasion I had other people with me so I don't believe I was mistaken or hallucinating.
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disinformation is just the same as propaganda its a government tool.
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QUOTE (JUSTVISITING @ May 18 2008, 09:29 AM) *
SOUL-DRIFTER, Hi.

I am actually one of those people that DOES believe in UFO's. I have been lucky enough to have, what I believe, five sightings of a UFO stretching back from the early 70's to this year. On each occasion I had other people with me so I don't believe I was mistaken or hallucinating.



I knew that, that is why I agreed with a yes and then added my comment as well.
I have had sightings as well.
A night time sighting in the late seventies and a daytime donut object in the mid sixties.
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