http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S0bj76389U... Even if you don't believe it's real. This is scientific fact.

Don't worry... it isn't going to happen.
This science "fact" is nothing but fiction; and the evidence is flawed. (And yes I watched video 2)

Oh yes! DONT claim something as science fact when it isn't... It lacks reasonable proof, or actual scientific evidence.

I didnt claim it, they did and Ibelieve it. Can you tell me how its flawed? I really want to know.

Cricket, I can tell you why it's flawed. Go to the conspiracy forum: Project Camelot thread. Read post #22.

This is based on the works of a person who used false assumptions, pseudoscience and outright falsehoods to sell a book. The FACTS in this case ... are wrong. Sorry.

Could evidence be mounding re Planet X which is supposed to arrive in 2012?

If you would have suggested to me a year ago that there was any relevance to 2012 and the so called end of the world,I would have paid little attention. After hundreds or hours of research I now thing there could be something to it.


Here is a link to yet another supposed confession by a govt official re Nibiru and how govts worldwide are preparing for it.



http://projectcamel ot.org/norway. html

Project Camelot has just received a communication from a Norwegian
politician about that country's preparations for a future catastrophe -
the details of which are known at the highest levels of government.

We immediately exchanged further e-mails with this person to verify
identity and check facts. What we have published here may be the most
extraordinary and potentially important single message we have ever
received.[/size][/font]



Now if this was to actually happen,obviously the world would be a different place when all said and...umm.....destroyed.

I ponder of different senerios that we may expect when the dust settles and humans try to rebuild.

Some say the humanity would change as a result and we would try not to make the same mistakes that were made in the past and evolve spiritualy.

Maybe it will like a Mad Max kind of world where people are forced to survive by whatever means possible. Survival of the fittest.

Maybe the govts come out from cowarding in their underground bunkers establish law and order and rebuild.Or maybe this NWO will take over and enslave people as some others claim.

Maybe we will left to fend for ourselves and everyday will be just another day of trying to survive.

If Planet X is true,is it worth trying to survive it?

If you did want to try to survive it,how would you prepare for it.

Please excuse my lack of writing skills.

Funny,I just made a post about about Planet X.

I certainly hope it's just a ploy to sell more books but still won't hurt to approach this with and open mind.

If it is true I sort of wonder if it's our creators way of serving us an eviction notice. I mean if you invested in a house and rented it out only discover it was being totally trashed,what would you do?

That tells me nothing. As for my family and myself , we are making our plans for survival now. There is not to much on the internet I believe , but trhis rings true for me. I am not willing to take the chance that they MAY be wrong. I am going with , they are RIGHT.No one is going to worry about our survival, we are up in age and of no use to the govt. under the guidelines of who will be chosen to survive, so we made our own decision to survive. I pray we are very wrong, but I dont believe we are. We have set into motion a plan for our survival.We rather be safe then getting caught unprepared. I am not willing to take the chance they are wrong.

Cricket, i to believe this is true, after doing some research on it, i have found that even tho Zechariah Sitchin is wrong in some part, so is the people that are debunking him, they are leaving out parts that debunk their debunking so to speak. I don't have time to explain right now, but i will explain later when i have time.

I certainly hope it's just a ploy to sell more books but still won't hurt to approach this with and open mind.

If it is true I sort of wonder if it's our creators way of serving us an eviction notice. I mean if you invested in a house and rented it out only discover it was being totally trashed,what would you do?[/quote]

This may sound very selfish, but i actually hope it is true. I have always, since i was just a little kid wanted to experience something major. And if it is true, then it is far from the first time it has happened while humans lived on earth, so if we could survive it then, then we should survive it now. Even tho all the tv slaves will perish.

Well, that's not a problem for me. There's no law against believing in something that others don't. I'm not an astronomer or mathematician, so I honestly couldn't tell you what effect a near-pass by another planet would have. However: I honestly don't think it's anything to worry about. And for me, it doesn't matter anyway. I'll probably have shucked this shell by then anyway ... which case I'll be with you in spirit!

It depends on a number of things, such as the strengh of its gravity, the shape, the existance of its moon/rings.
The guy assumed that it goes in a eliptical orbit; at that point I turned into not beleiving him.

In science and mathematics, never assume anything... When you assume things you are likely to be wrong.

Other glitches are that he said this thing could be visable within 5 years, on the diagrams it showed it as being far out.
So, that begs the question of, if its as far away as it will get, why could we not see it 5 years ago on its retreat from the solar system.
If not 5, why not 500 years? or 1000, or 1500.

If anything that massive object is likely to be a metoer/comet.

Now, Onto its size, 5 to 8 earth masses is not big enough to be a brown dwarf.
Jupiter is 318 earth masses...

If this "planet" was to re enter the solar system, it would have to be moving rather fast; its like play galactic pool, and hes assuming that it would miss all the other planets on the way here; to him, we are the only planet here.

Shall I go in to more depth with the scientific explainations of why hes wrong.

And, this is debunking, this is me proving why hes wrong.

To my knowledge there has never been a book written on this. In 1983 NASA put it in the paper in the head lines that this planet or what ever it is was found. It takes 3,600 years for its total run. It is now approaching the time for its return. In 1992 it was brought up again and then it disappeared from the news. All these underground bunkers and things the govt. and military are building are for us. Whether it be prisons or something for our safety I dont know. I pray it is wrong, but my gut tells me they are right and no way in hell will I just sit on my hands and do nothing to make sure my family survives. I may not make it to 2012 myself with all my health problems, but that doesnt mean my family wont need the help to survive. Like I said, iI would rather be safe then running around when it happens and it be to late. Always prepare for tomorrow. If it never comes, then oh well, but I am not some one who believes in to much to start with, but I hope people I talk to will at least listen with an open mind and prepare just in case. Some people seem to think they know better then the great minds of our day, but I am no genuis, and I am taking there word for it . We will survive. If it does happen, I hope you will be a survivor and we meet . Then we can have raise a glass of home made wine or shine and make a toast to all of our new beginning.

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/planetx/nutshell.html

If presented with correct proof, I would prepare.
I see no proof.

If I started to prepare for every single little thing, then I'd be craping myself everytime the doorbell rang; just incase it was a fox to eat me.
This is nothing more than a fairytale; if you are the type of person that likes to prepair just incase, then why not prepare for something that may actually happen, rather than was time and resources on things like this.

Its interesting whom you consider the great minds of our day.....

I never indicated who I thought were the great minds of our day. And as far as crapping my pants, I dont think so, I am saying for myself, I dont panic easily and I dont think this is a fairy tale. Time will tell who is correct in there thinking. But for now, I am going to prepare for this might be event. I hope I am wrong as I have said before. But something tells me I am correct in my thinking and I hope for all of those that think it is a fairy tale dont get caught with there families in a ditch dead if this turns out to be correct. I dont believe in taking chances where my family is concerned. You just have to open your eyes and look around this world. It may not be a planet that takes us out, what ever it will be will leave no one unhurt in some way when it does occur.Everyone has the right to think and feel like they want and Iam doing what I believe is best for my family. Don't
make me try to look like a fool for loving and caring about what becomes of my family.It's my choice to prepare or not and I choose to prepare.Don't let fear over shadow your good judgement. No harm in being prepared.

A bit defensive there Cricket? I simply wrote one sentence.

You of course should do what you think is right. But preparation should be proportionate to the risk. The odds that some giant planet is careening for Earth, is somehow invisible from Earth, and is going to destroy Earth, but not to the degree that you can prepare for.. is.. low. All the time and energy spent preparing for things like this could be spent on so many other things that would be beneficial to a family..

But as you said, its your right to do as you wish.

Sorry if I came off that way, but I know none of you know me except from my words here. I dont know why I am so adament about this but ,I really believe this event is going to happen.I take damn good care of my family , to me this is just another thing I am doing for my family. I feel it and I know it. I can't explain what I have lived with all my life , but I have had several times in my life experienced this same feeling and the event came true. I have to go with ever you want to call it , insight, intution, or what ever. I really believe this event is going to take place.

I know exactly what you are talking about, i have always dismissed doom sayers and at least 90% of the Ragnarok theories. But for some reason, there is something about this that makes me believe it will happen.

I have not actually started to prepare, i i doubt i will until i can see it, but i am planing on what to do if it happens. So that when/if it happens, i know what to do.