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Oct 30 2006, 03:11 PM
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According to a story I read in the paper, the DA in Santa Barbara, Calif. has a case in which his major witness has been visited by aliens at night. The witness shot video of the visitations. In order to prove his witness is telling the truth, the DA plans to play the video of the aliens for the judge.
BUT...the video will be played in secret and will not be shown to the public. I think this is outrageous. If this video exists and shows what the District Attorney says it shows, then we all should be able to see it. |
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Oct 30 2006, 03:25 PM
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(medea4321;293342) According to a story I read in the paper, the DA in Santa Barbara, Calif. has a case in which his major witness has been visited by aliens at night. The witness shot video of the visitations. In order to prove his witness is telling the truth, the DA plans to play the video of the aliens for the judge.
BUT...the video will be played in secret and will not be shown to the public. I think this is outrageous. If this video exists and shows what the District Attorney says it shows, then we all should be able to see it. Yeah but then again, it is a matter of a personal nature. Maybe there are inappropriate things that occur in the videos? |
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Oct 30 2006, 03:34 PM
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This would be huuuuuge if there is actually such a video. Do you have any more details about the story ?
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Oct 30 2006, 09:51 PM
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This was the story I saw in the Los angeles Times. I searched on the web about the man named and there was quite a bit about him from a couple years ago. It sounded like this video is legitimate.
We should be able to see it! D.A. Won't Alienate Man Over Close Encounters Witness who reports visits by otherworldly creatures will testify in environmental lawsuit. By Steve Chawkins Times Staff Writer October 19, 2006 Some attorneys might shy away from using a witness who says he has been abducted by bizarre creatures that repeatedly return at night to poke tiny holes in his chest. But a Santa Barbara County prosecutor said Wednesday that he intends to present testimony from just such a witness next week in a civil case against the owner of the county's largest land-based oil and gas producer. The man's credibility in the county's lawsuit against Greka Energy is "a valid issue to be litigated," said Deputy Dist. Atty. Jerry Lulejian, adding that videos of the strange visitations may be shown to the judge "as a further test of his believability." The purported needle-wielding beings have nothing to do with the long-running case against Greka, which has been accused by county officials of numerous environmental violations. Still, the company's attorneys seemed to welcome accounts by prosecution witness Gary Lowrey of nocturnal drop-ins by weird — possibly alien — creatures and hemisphere-shaped machines. In court documents, Lowrey, the company's former safety manager, also told of finding a mysterious "claw" hooked into a green towel in his closet, along with footprints on a sheet of aluminum foil that he had laid out in hopes of securing clues about his visitors. In interviews, attorneys for Greka tried to make all that — plus prosecutor Lulejian's unwillingness to boot Lowrey from his witness list — seem a little strange. "Here's their most important witness, and the D.A. is buying into it, saying that none of this affects his credibility," said Bela G. Lugosi, an attorney for Greka and son of the actor best known for playing Count Dracula. "We're very surprised." His co-counsel, Santa Monica attorney Jeffrey Valle, agreed. "Yes, there are people who believe in aliens," Valle said, "but we're talking about the Santa Barbara district attorney's office here!" The county's 2004 suit against Greka leveled more than 100 accusations against the company, which operates mostly in the Santa Maria area. All but six of them have been settled, with Greka paying $600,000 in penalties. At issue before Santa Barbara County Superior Court Judge Rodney S. Melville will be whether the company had permits to load a petroleum byproduct on railcars at its refinery, Lulejian said. Lowrey, who took a medical leave from the company in 2002, "has nothing to do with proving anything specific that was going on" in that regard, the prosecutor said. However, he had warned company officials about unsafe conditions even before a gas explosion in which a worker was severely injured, Lulejian said, adding, "I want the court to know that." Even if Lowrey's credibility dissolves like a shrieking teenager in a vat of horror-flick acid, the prosecutor said he has corroborating evidence about Lowrey's warning to the company. The company has described Lowrey as a disgruntled former employee with an ax to grind. Greka filed suit against him, but a state law protecting whistle-blowers derailed it. Lowrey's otherworldly experiences came to light in depositions this summer. In one exchange, Lugosi pressed him about his conversations with a UFO researcher. "Did you in fact tell him that you were being terrorized by creatures that you considered to be alien in nature?" Lugosi asked. Lowrey's response was measured. "They were bothering me," he said. "I don't think I said they terrorized me. But I said they were bothering me." A former Bakersfield fire inspector, Lowrey could not be reached for comment Wednesday. In his deposition, he said that he, his wife, and his children all suffered mysterious needle pricks at night, sometimes in distinctive patterns. With a hidden video camera in his bedroom, he secured footage of the creatures, including one frame where, he said, "you can see his little eyes looking at you, and the horns and the eyebrow.'" The video, Lulejian said, will be made available behind closed doors to Melville, who is best known as the judge in the Michael Jackson child-molestation trial. In a separate deposition, the prosecutor took care not to say whether he believed Lowrey's account. However, he praised Lowrey for investigating the strange phenomena in a "rational" way. For example, the prosecutor pointed out, Lowrey consulted with Roger Leir, a Thousand Oaks podiatrist who says he has surgically extracted materials implanted in humans by extraterrestrials. With Leir's help, DNA tests on the "claw" revealed it to be either "a snail or a primitive ancestor of the human race," Lulejian testified. In the deposition, he was asked: "Don't you find a witness who claims that he's being visited by aliens and getting punctured at night rather a wacky thing to be claiming?" The prosecutor disagreed, saying he knew of many instances where "people of very good believability have had experiences that they cannot identify." Lowrey sounded an even loftier note during his deposition. "There are hundreds of scientists, credible scientists, looking for life outside the Earth in the universe," he said. " … I'm not alone." steve.chawkins@latimes.com |
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Oct 31 2006, 01:03 AM
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wow i hope to hear more of this
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Oct 31 2006, 01:40 AM
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I cringed when I saw Roger Leir's name on the article because I just knew I would see it. The guy is a quack/fake and looking to make a name for himself to sell his books - the fact that he suggested this "claw" is a "primitive ancestor of the human race" is just laughable.
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Oct 31 2006, 02:34 AM
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(kiku;293420) I cringed when I saw Roger Leir's name on the article because I just knew I would see it. The guy is a quack/fake and looking to make a name for himself to sell his books - the fact that he suggested this "claw" is a "primitive ancestor of the human race" is just laughable.
Isn't that the foot Doctor bloke Kiku....... -------------------- Nathanial "a_skeptic" Meade 1979-2007 RIP |
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Oct 31 2006, 04:53 AM
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Yeah. Sadly, he's one of the all-stars of the UFO community... doesn't say much for them positively.
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Oct 31 2006, 06:43 AM
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(medea4321;293398) It sounded like this video is legitimate.
We should be able to see it! What makes you think the D.A. will make the video public????? Nowhere in the article does it say that |
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Oct 31 2006, 08:16 AM
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Perhaps once the case is settled, they may let the video out for public view.
We can only hope. |
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Oct 31 2006, 05:22 PM
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(TallWhite;293442) What makes you think the D.A. will make the video public?????
Nowhere in the article does it say that He doesn't. He's saying he thinks the DA should make it public. |
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Nov 1 2006, 04:55 AM
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(Fen Star;293424) Isn't that the foot Doctor bloke Kiku.......
:rofl: Kiku and The Foot Doctor :devil: "A story of hate and despair" |
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Nov 1 2006, 10:29 AM
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Freedom of Information Act!
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Nov 1 2006, 03:26 PM
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I don't hate him, it's just that he inserts himself in every controversy or popular UFO/alien story, and I'm tired of it. He's no expert or authority on anything except removing fragments from people's feet, and he calls them alien implants, and now he gets to make a living selling it to people in books, videos, and lectures. Lately, when a story or video is posted here, there he is. Bleh.
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Nov 9 2006, 11:02 AM
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Well, it's my understanding there may be something in the works to get the video out. Stay tuned.
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Nov 9 2006, 11:24 AM
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Is this case is still in progress ? I wonder if the judge has seen the video by now.
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Nov 9 2006, 11:41 AM
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(trog;293592) Freedom of Information Act!
Very intersting that one of the government's internet monitor's would suggest this, . It is a good idea. Especiially since only a DA has this video.
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Nov 9 2006, 01:13 PM
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Ah, Kiku, let the folks believe whatever gets 'em through the day, eh? If that means believing in...just about anything, so be it.
Oh, but I did have a good elementary school lol at.... ....said Bela G. Lugosi
"We're very surprised." |
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Nov 9 2006, 05:04 PM
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Was Bela Legosi a believer in the Super Natural and Ufology? I like that Bauhaus song that Peter Murphy sings.
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Nov 11 2006, 12:22 AM
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the coolest thing about this article is that its out there in the public eye in a promonent spot speaking of ET's in a matter of fact way. it leans towards the view that they're real and a part of every day and adresses the credability behind that. i love shit like that when i see it. and im seeing it more. which makes me think... are we getting closer to addressing the whole issue?
maybe the government is just slowly preparing us for the truth with articles in L.A newspapers and shows on the history channel called UFO Files;)
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