proffessor stephen hawkins has said in his opinion if we did make contact or were visited by et's,that human history shows that when an advanced race meets a primitive, the out come is never good,and we are the same species.what do you think?

I have always questioned the wisdom of shouting to the universe, hey look over here, here i am? but in truth who could say what would happen. Yes it is human nature that this usually turns out pretty bad for humans, it would almost be an ironic justice if it happened to all of us. But who would know. We have no way to tell even if there is life out there let alone what it may be like. Lets hope thee friendly.

I do not necesarily subscribe to the Hawkins wisdom. While this has proven true in our past, ultimatly the fallen ones get compensation in court. Equality becomes a matter of law, after much suffering of course.

This world may have been somebodys ping pong ball for a long time. Its just a little more complicated than Hawkins wit.

We don't know anything about alien philosiphy and law. As our society evolved encounters with the less developed became less brutal. We would have to assume them to be even more developed.

Wait isnt Hawkins the one that said theres no god because information goes into a black hole and is destroyed, then said he was wrong their is a god because the black hole may not exist in a parallel reality?

sorry kinda off topic

I dont trust Hawkins to be the one to theorize what the motives of contact could be. Im not sure who's concept i would believe
but it would at least have to be a historian or some such field of study.

And it just that reason that makes Hawkins a brilliant man, the fact that when his theorys don't pan out, he moves on to the next never feeling sorry for himself allways seaching for the right answer.....



Why an historian ''M''......?

I believe Hawkins also said it would be most likely for us to destroy ourselves with our own technology before developing intergalactic travel type transportation.

thats correct fonzie,he did.

His name is Hawking, with a g, no s. But why would you count Hawking to be an authority on this particular subject?

We can take examples from history where it has been the case that a more advanced civilization comes into contact with another more primitive and it is conquered. However, in these instances the conquering factions themselves are relatively primitive in comparison to the modern day, and we have different ethical standards, mostly. Also, the area which the vanquished inhabited in the past usually held something that the conquerors needed, like resources and land and the cheap, or (more often) forced, labour to exploit them. Do we possess anything that a race capable of interstellar travel would need? Probably not.

We can try the following thought experiment: a primitive tribe is discovered in a remote jungle in the modern day, what happens to them? Would we go out of our way to kill or enslave them? In fact, there are such tribes living in remote areas in the modern day who maintain their traditional ways of living. The only grievances they have is that their ways of life are 'threatened' by modern influence. But those of us who already embrace modern ways don't really reject progress and so we will not as a whole feel threatened by the influence of a much more advanced civilization.

i never said hawkins ooh sorry..hawkings,was an authority,he was simply asked his opinion on the subject.the conquering factions are exactly the same as the primitive, only with more advanced weapons..iraq,afghanistan etc.

its survival,its human instinct that we would feel threatened by an advanced race,we fear what we don't fully understand,lack of knowlegde leads to ignorance and suspicion,that is human nature too.we would no sooner accept aliens than we would foreign invaders.i also believe we have many resources that would be useful to interstellar travellers.every form of life needs resources to survive.

In his latest talk at a university Hawking said most life in the universe is probably primitive and that inteligent life is rare.

He also said abductees were just wierdos. I think Travis Walton would take excwption at that.

I just read it on my local news. At MSNBC knews they left out his wierdo remark.

some genius's lack common sense and some social skills.

I'm not an authority on extraterrestrial life...and actually I did not realize that there was one...but I disagree. It would be impossible to quantify life in an area that is itself not quantifiable. Further, it would be impossible to define all life according to human standards. Life can be infinitely diverse.

also perhaps he is worried that a.his theories could be proved wrong by interstellars. b.couldn't accept that there is someone out there more intelligent than him.

I agree. How would we know? How can we even be totally sure that humans are the only intelligent Earth species without considering non-human intelligence? Do we know with absolute certainty that whales, dolphins and elephants cannot reason?

There are many cases of animals using tools and abstract deduction to solve problems. I observed a german shepherd once that learned to jump on top of a garbage can to reach and unplug an electric fence. Thats how she kept escaping when her owner was away.

If the queen of an ant coloney developed intelligence and telepathic control of her subjects, now that word be formidable.

no..it would be formidable if the ants could build a spaceship that could travel across the universe.

That made me laugh. Thanks I needed that.

LOL They have. We call them the Grays.

was i nearly abducted when i was five,cos i sat on a hedgerow and got covered in ants,and my mum had to brush all the ants off me.quite embarrassing cos they were in my pants too.

Abduction or alien food source. Could have been either. You could have been dissasembled carried to Dulce or one of the other secret underground bases. Once there they might have had the technology to reasemble you.