who would one day discover earth,or they already did..would they have good intentions or bad(trying to take over the earth etc? what do you think?

any lifeform capable of travelling across vast distances across space is most likely out to colonise new worlds,we would see that as a threat, especially because of their technical superiority.if we were to find a primitive type of life then we can afford to be patient and the risk is lower,although never risk free.

i rather we find them,before they find us.

Yes, i agree. Any being willing to travel across vast distances that takes a considerable amount of time, thye would have to have some motive such as colonization or reproduction. Frequent studies of Mars have shown us there is life and we would do well to properly prepare for any such threat. However, if this happens in our lifetime I will be quite surprised. Pleased too.

Howver, if such life is hostile, I feel our initial response would be equally hostile and even nuclear if we were forced to do so.

To be honest, Our world is a bad place for Et to try and evade.

Exactly. Nuclear war against extraterrestrials would destroy this planet, there would be nothing left. That's why I think the aliens would rather squat here and use our resources underground and experiment on the life that exists here instead of going for an all out war.

why are humans traveling to the space? dont you think we would like to know whats out there,outisde our galaxy etc...if we would have great enough technology then of course we would travel far away to investigate...part of beeing an inteligent beeing is having a wish to investigate,learning new things and beeing curious.

thats what i think

Considering the fact that less than 3% of our population is in some form of armed services, but we are still capable of the amount of destruction we can cause when we feel threatened. If they came with hostile intentions, I'm pretty sure they would think about it a lot longer than probably most other planets. If they came in peace, I'm pretty sure they would land with the white flag flying proud and high.

i think they know, we would rather die fighting then go willingly as slaves or whatever,but also i think they would know that we would effectively make earth inhospitable than hand it over.

we'll fight them on the beaches,we'll fight them in the fields and by god we'll go to space if we have to.

If there are aliens and if they have technology to come here and if they plans for our planet.. it wont matter where you think you are going to fight them.. I doubt wed even have a chance to make our planet inhospitable, and I further doubt we would even know what THEY would considerable inhospitable.

he was quoting Churchill.

I think though that when they do come, because they will, that it is more likely for them o come in peace.Also, like us, i doubt they want to start wars with other worlds. they are probably more explorers and researchers like us. They see Earth and don't think "lets blow it up". They most likely think "ooh what a nice planet, let's explore it!"

yep,when you find new life in universe you dont go blow it up,,you get excited,start exploring it..if they are inteligent you try making contact and so on.

I realize he was quoting Churchill, thanks.

When you say "they" are coming in peace.. is there any particular reason to think that?

And, if we are assuming (and I dont..but for the sake of discussion) life is common..that there is alien life out there and interstellar travel is possible.. why would you ascribe peaceful motivations to ALL alien civilizations at ALL times? If life is common there are going to be dozens or hundreds of rival civilizations.. why would you assume that ALL ALIENS in ALL times are friendly or peaceful?

What could we have that a visiting alien race could not get elsewhere?
It seems foolish to consider they would come with hostile intent with a universe to search in.
Are we so sure we are that special, people and place, that a alien species would fight us...I DON'T THINK SO!

if there is inteligent life out there,,they think like we do...are we alone? and if they one day find out they are not,,they will try to contact,just like we would.

they would probably be alien astronauts,and really happy about finding life out there

This post has been edited by Mella: May 15 2008, 11:33 AM

so you believe that all intelligent life, if it exists, ALL think in a uniform manner, despite having evolved in completely different worlds, having different experiences?

When you look at the variety of HUMAN behavior in itself.. can you not extrapolate and presume that there are going to be a myriad of different cultures OUT THERE?

And, our first contact almost certainly would not be with astronauts but rather with self replicating probes. We dont send people to Mars first. Or to the Stars. We send Pioneer, Voyager, etc. If we could, we would send probes that upon getting to their destination would then makes copies of themselves and head to the next destination.

Thats at the exploration phase. If that is followed, by an alien species having an interest in us.. I would say it is an even chance it would have negative intentions.

yes i think,,because they are inteligent beeings not alien reptiles that we see on movies,plus as i said they would want to explore.And if there is a world out there,they probably have different civilizations ON IT just like we ,with rivality and different interests ..so i guess they all would try to make an ally out there,not enemy



cultural difference are given,but that doesnt mean they are evil..what nation on earth is evil? there is no evil,good..



of course,you are right here..but sooner or later they would contact if they got the see us

This post has been edited by Mella: May 15 2008, 12:24 PM

So after what seems to be thousands of years of alien visitation they suddenly now decide they want to invade.. some of you watch to much sci fi crap and read into too much BS...

Buzz..Im not going to really deal with irony of your statement and just say so that I dont step on toes and hurt feelings etc that the conversation is pre-suppossing that aliens have no already visited.

Mella.. Let me give you an example.. on Earth, Western Culture, Classic Mongolian Culture, Aztec Culture and a host of others were rather OUTWARD looking, always looking to expand their territory, influence, and wealth. In the West, the worst of the worst in recent times were the Nazis. Some cultures have generally been more inward looking, or when outward looking have limited themselves to exploring and trade (China, India).

You are basically assuming that ALL cultures in ALL times that achieve the ability to move between stars are ALL going to "friendly". If somehow the ability to become a star-faring nation was locked in with that type of culture I would agree, but I can see no logical justification for that belief at all. Again, you are ascribing a UNIFORM culture to ALL of creation. ANY culture that EVER makes it into space is peaceful?

Good or evil in this context dont particularly matter. But if you dont believe that evil exists youve lived a sheltered life to this point. Im not talking about some obscure christian ideal. Im talking about the Holocaust. Im talking about the killing fields of Cambodia. Im talking about the current government of Myanmar sitting on its hands while its people die, refusing help because they fear losing a bit of their grip on power.

exactly ...too much sci fi!!

Vetamur,,again...people dont go out there to the universe to start wars but to explore and find out new things,,its one thing to be in fight with "neighbours" on your own planet,they are always there...you share the same planet and have different interests,and you are rivals...thats a different thing,and that gets more and more unusual the more we develop.(and the aliens developed more then we,if they didnt develop in the same direction they would exterminate them selves by all the fights before they would reach us)

that was all from me

This post has been edited by Mella: May 16 2008, 02:58 AM

would you wanna land on a planet that always has a war going on at any one time.secondly it is dangerous to assume that a visitation by aliens would be friendly.if we take our own past just as an example ie;the crusades,the conquerers.if you are travelling the universe,you aren't gonna drop in say hello,and then chip off again.

they wil be looking for new homes and resources,as any planet that supports life, only has so many resources,and dosen't last forever.

WE COME IN PEACE,SHOOT TO KILL,SHOOT TO KILL!!!!

But one of the reasons for exploration is to gain new land, our world is overpopulated already and we are still increasing in numbers.

Maybe the aliens are desperate for new land. Maybe their planet is on its last breath, maybe they are way to overpopulated, we don't know. So when they find a new planet with great potential, but there is already intelligent life on the planet. If those aliens where desperate, do you think they would take over the planet or let the other have it?

If we assume that they think in the same manner as us, then they would without a doubt wipe us out.

Or maybe they have been a space faring species for a long time and have encountered countless of civilizations. If that is the case, then our planet might not be that impressive at all. If we are like an ants to them, why would they leave us be instead of taking over and use the planets resources for them self?

This post has been edited by Wodan: May 16 2008, 03:26 AM