Göbekli Tepe: Older Than Stonehenge, Pyramids, Anything

**allison1597** · 07-07-2010, 12:06 AM

When people think of ancient temples, they often think of Stonehenge, which most archaeologists agree was built about 5,000 years ago. But Stonehenge is actually trumped handily by a little-known site in modern-day Turkey called Göbekli Tepe, which is 11,500 years old. The site is composed of circular rings and T-shaped monoliths, many with carvings of animals on them.

Although Göbekli Tepe (which means “potbelly hill”) got a bit of press in 2008 when The Guardian and Smithsonian Magazine ran articles about its newly realized importance, it didn’t really receive the wider public acclaim and notice that it deserved. According to many archaeologists, this is one of the most exciting finds ever unearthed, a real game-changer in terms of our understanding of civilization, settlement, agriculture, and religion. (…)

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**bart5050** · 07-07-2010, 01:54 AM

It did not change my percepions significantly, but reinforced them.
I suspect that as we develop better methods of underwater archeology we will discover an astounding pre ice age history that we are not fully aware of.

When I first read about this it was for me one of the most significant historical finds ever.
Nothing will convince me that the people who created this were simple hunter gatherers.
These are extremly sophisticated.

What might change my perceptions in a profound way is to discover who buried them and why.

Did the people who buried them have a continuous historical connection with the builders?
Just the scale of the burial rivals modern earth moving machines.

We are a race that has lost its memory.

**bart5050** · 07-07-2010, 06:15 PM

Here is another link.

Do these mysterious stones mark the site of the Garden of Eden? | Mail Online

This link was posted last year in another thread by Cricket about Gobleki.
The age and sophistication of this place just astounds me more than anyplace on the planet.

This place is so over the top that nothing discovered yet rivals it for illustrating how little we know of our own past.

**therealjdb** · 07-07-2010, 07:41 PM

That's amazing, I can't say that it changes my beliefs but it sure shot down what they tried to teach me in school lol. Thanks for the share.

**bethabara9** · 07-07-2010, 08:41 PM

Bart, I am convinced the reason the Garden of Eden hasn't been found, is it isn't here but it is. I am convinced it is another dimension. B'

**bart5050** · 07-07-2010, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by bethabara9

Bart, I am convinced the reason the Garden of Eden hasn't been found, is it isn't here but it is. I am convinced it is another dimension. B'

I think the Garden of Eden is an architypal memory of a time and not a place.
And that it has nothing to do with Gobleki Tepe.

75,000 years ago the super volcano Toba erupted.
The evidence of the event, and the genetic evidence of a bottleneck in our Mitochndrial DNA, suggest that Toba reduced the human population from several million to about 250,000.

We nearly went extinct.
Before Toba life was sweet and food plentiful.
After Toba food was scarce and survival was a struggle.
The Toba ash column represented the column of fire that blocked the way back to a time of plenty.
Back to the Garden of Eden.

Gobleki was long after this event.

But Gobleki just blows my mind.
It is evidence of something I have long believed.
We are a race that has lost its memory.
Our past is much more complex than is currently understood.