It's true that the 2012 prophecy, or outlook, has became an urban legend popular enough to serve as inspiration for Hollywood that can deliver the proper punch due to sophisticated CGI technology that enables to render the collection of disasters the year of 2012 is loaded with -- no holds barred -- the best. Now we know that there would be no CGI technology, nor any other technology for that matter, if it were not for strictly rational thinking on the part of the inventors. Since rational thinking gave birth to science, as we know it, the scientific community doesn't share the thrill of awaiting the all-busting year 2012. That also includes most proponents of the 2012 prophecy, who are consciously or unconsciously mentally subordinate to the way scientists can handle things. But who wouldn't cash in, if there is an interest in the topic. But there is a door that remained unlocked -- a door that SETI forgot all about.

SETI is a collection of radio astronomers who scan the skies for signs of intelligent life in the universe. No luck so far, but as scientists, the SETI can surely rationalize and count the chances that someday an EMR beam that would make them jump for joy lights up their connected PC's.

The chances of that happening are not that great though and that's because the study of space debris such as asteroids and comets arrived at a frightening conclusion: the consensus among the researchers is that it is not the question if the earth gets hit by life changing asteroid or comet, but the question is when. SETI adopted this view and plugged it into their formulas that tend to establish how long an ET civilization capable of generating and sending interstellar signals can last. Not that long -- around two million years. But this conclusion seems to miss the rationality mark: wouldn't a very advanced ET society be able to protect itself from a complete destruction by an asteroid the size of Mt. Everest? SETI never pondered this question, because they created the life in the universe according to their image and likeness. In other words, if Homo sapiens is dumb enough to continue this Russian roulette, everyone in the galaxy does the same. That's outright stupid reasoning; it's comparable to a declaration by members of bubonic plague-stricken medieval society -- a declaration, which said that if they couldn't stop and prevent the disaster, no one ever could. Well, here we are -- getting our flu shots while popping antibiotics when needed.

Now enter the UFO as a manifestation of an ET society that is capable of diverting huge asteroids away not only from their planet, but also from their artificial planetoids that it has built in our solar system. In that case, our planet would enjoy the anti-asteroid protection as well: there is no way to study Homo sapiens if an asteroids kills it -- duh.

Of course, there would be other benefit: the immensely powerful gravity lasers would make our cities safer.

How?

Well, man has known earthquakes since day 1, but didn't understand the causes. And so the civilized man began to build settlements that grew larger and larger in time without knowing that they might sit on a seismic fault line that can snap once in two hundred years producing magnitude 8.5 eartquakes thus reducing the population in the unfortunate place. Of course, the very advanced ET's can't glue the seismic faults together, but they can hit the fault to release the pressure before it builds to the catastrophic level.

So that's much for the science fiction that involves ET guardian angels. But what if this scenario isn't a fiction, but part of a reality? That would depend on the members of the ET society to send a secret message to make this real. And how would that message look like?

Obviously, if the ET's can trigger earthquakes, they would chose special time to do so; they would create a very peculiar set of time coincidences -- and the now notorious time 2012 would play an instrumental part in it. I mean the "other" 2012, because there are two:

a) 2012 = "two thousand twelve"
b) 2012 = "twenty twelve"

Let's use the (b) option. If 2012 is a number denoting a year -- that means time -- 20 and 12 would relate to time as well. Here is the particular example: Consider last two major earthquakes where 50,000 or more people have been killed. The first and unfortunately the nearly present disaster struck Haiti where the number of victims is hardly less than 50,000, and the second major earthquake took place in 2008 in China. Now, what else these two earthquakes have in common? Time-wise, they both occurred on the 12th day of the month. And that takes care of the second number in the catastrophic year 20-12. But how to utilize the first number 20 the way that even primitive species like us would be able to spot the signal of non-randomness?

The way to catch the 20 is simple: If the killer earthquake in China took place in May 2008, then when the next comparable earthquake would take place, if you have the means to trigger it?

The answer is after 20 months to accommodate the first number in 20-12: May 2008 + 20 months = January 2010.

And that's the first segment of the chain of strange coincidences that involve "natural" disasters occurring in the period 2001 and 2012.

Since we are more fearful animals than real intelligent beings, anything above will be deemed a bunch of unrelated coincidences -- just on the whim and especially by the proponents of "2012."

I really tried to follow what you saying and found it kind of hard. Maybe it's because I'm sick and dealing with a slamming headache and fever to boot but....WHAT???


Why would aliens cause earthquakes in the first place? And then you say they are giving us messages to figure out when the next earthquake would happen?
What does all of this have to do with 2012?

You were hard to follow being all over the map.

They wouldn't malevolently create earthquakes; they would conduct a preemptive strike against the seismic faults where the pressure grows and when it snaps, the earthquake would become very destructive. So the aliens hit the fault line earlier when the pressure is not that great, which would cause an earthquake of a lesser magnitude, like bellow 5 points on the Richter scale. but they don't have to do it and sometimes they don't; sometimes they hit the fault later for a purpose.

The Haiti earthquake took place 20 months after the Chinese earthquake, and both disasters took place on the 12 day of the month. Now, if I put 20 and 12 next to each other, like 2012 and say the word "disaster." How would you interpret that number 2012? Isn't 2012 the year of prophesied disasters that include earthquakes?

Well it could just be a coincidence. But it also might not be. If that was so then what would stop them from one day not helping hm? After all with the way humanity has been shaping who would want us to get further? I honestly think the numbers are just by chance and not really a sign. But on the other hand I don't know if our planet knows how to release pressure before a big snap or not. I'm not a geologist. But I do know small quakes are a heck of a lot more common then big ones. Just like how small volcanic eruptions are more common then gigantic ones like what happened with Pompeii long ago ^^;

I assume that you believe that something is going to happen in 2012, am I right?
Do you think that aliens have to do with whatever it is that is coming in that year?

It's nearly impossible to enumerate the chances of this and other events being a coincidence or not. We learned most of the scientific methods of investigation by observing the nature, and super advanced aliens are not the nature. So where science fails, belief or religion enters. The UFO phenomenon can only exist if the aliens only fly them in a random manner or show any other sign of irrational behavior, so we wouldn't face a vastly superior mind if they became hostile. The idea that the aliens due to their immense advancement can create earthquakes will not just fly -- only the UFOs. We, as mammals, can't psychologically handle having around anything superior that affects our life. That's why we always win in the sci-fi movies. Fear is the only "reason," which backs the mainstream arguments against UFO being "real." But the aliens know this, and that's why you can't hope for a massive display of UFO that would stop air traffic in major world cities. There is a rule: Don't disturb the natural habitat of Homo sapiens. But they can secretly send a message about who the aliens are and what they can do. It all depends how you regard all the coincidences that we just can't easily see, even though they are right before your eyes.

In every year something happens. I believe that just before the year is over, the media in their annual recapitulation won't find anything special about it. But there would be plenty of media anticipation on December 21, 2001 when the Mayan Great Cycle ends and new Great Cycle begins. But the aliens prepared something for 2012, not big though, but strangely coincidental.

No offense Epix but it sounds a lot like you are greatly under estimating nature. The numbers really do seem like its merely coincidental to me. I mean If you purposely start looking for numbers in nature eventually you will find the 20 12 numbering again. Just because its out there that the numbers happened doesn't mean that UFOs are more likely then nature itself, because its not. To me they both seem like possibilities but at the same time to me it seems more likely that the planet did its own balancing act rather then being influenced. If the earth couldn't do that on its own we would probably be all dead by now ^^;

Did you know that if you add 12/21/2012 it all equals 11??
Does that mean something too? People are always talking about the number 11 having a meaning. Especially when it appears as 11:11. Just figured you might have some theory on that one too.

It's not that difficult to find numbers 20 and 12 in the nature. Here is calcium and here is magnesium with atomic numbers 20 and 12 respectively. What is difficult though is to relate these two elements to the "Mayan Prophecy" and the disasters that are said to portent. At least I found it difficult. If you can establish any meaningful link between calcium, magnesium and disasters the magnitude of Chinese and the Haitian earthquakes, let me see it. Why would you search the nature with no restriction when 2012 is linked with disaster, as the content of the movie "2012" clearly shows?

But coincidences do happen, and if the aliens did it, then they know that this particular coincidence I described in the OP is not just enough to reasonably assume that the Haitian earthquake wasn't triggered by the nature. That means they would form other related logical links to support the initial coincidence, and the links should be there relatively easy to see. There is a difference between searching the nature for 20-12 and searching the aliens, coz the nature doesn't have a mind, so it can't put the numbers in a special place, but aliens can manipulate our environment, so they can put the numbers close to something that relates to the Mayan Calendar. Also, 2012 is a year and year is a time unit, and so 20 and 12 are likely to be used with other time units we use. Nature cannot do that.

The aliens could use the number 11, but you need to find out the reason for adding the single digits of that date.