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    Quote Originally Posted by comfortablynumb View Post
    When's that gonna happen then, us 'passing the center of the Milky Way'?
    We will never pass through the 'Black Hole' center, but we will pass through the 'Galactic Plane', or equator of the Milky Way (which is also a center), it is the 'Alignment' that you can find imfo about anywhere, and it will happen just before we expect it too, and will be over by December 21st 2012.

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    Quote Originally Posted by comfortablynumb View Post
    just learn to read......

    yes a change in phases/cycles as I said....unless you are telling me the maya believed there were people running around made of mud, wood, crystal....
    Do you have some way to prove that they were not?

    We are trying to make them out of 'Metal', and we are simple humans.

    Mud, Wood, Crystals, Flesh, Light, all things possible when a God is involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ObedientBeast View Post
    But, that is the day we pass the center of our 'Wobble', nothing to do with 'Maya', it is a scientific 'Fact'.
    Oh fucking Lordy, Lord - I am salvased, or salvationed or shit, with sal fucking vation! Praise the Lord! Jesus, Praise him, Oh dear LOrd Praise him for I have seen the fucking light.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyD View Post
    here are some facts about the mayans........and please do post any evidence that says otherwise.

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    Contrary to popular belief, the ancient Meso-Americans, be they Aztec, Toltec, Inca or Maya or any other group, left no oral or written “prophecy” record about what would or could happen on or about the year 2012 other than a great age of 5125 years would end and another commence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ObedientBeast View Post
    We will never pass through the 'Black Hole' center, but we will pass through the 'Galactic Plane', or equator of the Milky Way (which is also a center), it is the 'Alignment' that you can find imfo about anywhere, and it will happen just before we expect it too, and will be over by December 21st 2012.
    and nothing will have happen because it's a nothing event. Scientific fact brought to you by the same science people that gave you the knowledge of the galactic plane in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by comfortablynumb View Post
    Contrary to popular belief, the ancient Meso-Americans, be they Aztec, Toltec, Inca or Maya or any other group, left no oral or written “prophecy” record about what would or could happen on or about the year 2012 other than a great age of 5125 years would end and another commence.
    Well said CN. In this whole prolonged Mayan/2012 debate there is an apparent lack on the part of those who believe in the truth of the Mayan predictions of actual evidence to support their claims.
    I've posted links and quotes from Mayan elders and shamans who dispute the whole hysteria surrounding 2012 and its links to their beliefs. I'll post them again if needed for our newer members.
    All we seem to get is beetle headed statements ad infinitum with no credible support or validation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by comfortablynumb View Post
    and nothing will have happen because it's a nothing event. Scientific fact brought to you by the same science people that gave you the knowledge of the galactic plane in the first place.
    Until we get past it, we have no 'Facts' about it, simple speculation is the best any can do.

    But, the 'Maya' were so worried, they built monuments, left carvings in stone, at a time when that was a very difficult task, just to warn us, for nothing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe the Waiter View Post
    Well said CN. In this whole prolonged Mayan/2012 debate there is an apparent lack on the part of those who believe in the truth of the Mayan predictions of actual evidence to support their claims.
    I've posted links and quotes from Mayan elders and shamans who dispute the whole hysteria surrounding 2012 and its links to their beliefs. I'll post them again if needed for our newer members.
    All we seem to get is beetle headed statements ad infinitum with no credible support or validation.
    so you are saying that there is no truth to the experts saying the world will not end and that the calendar simply says we are ending a cycle?
    if thats is so, should i believe the world will end instead?

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    more just a silly point, I think this end of the world stuff is BS, but some people believe enough they will try an make it happen just to hop up and down shouting "I told you so!" think they are proven right becuase they caused the end of the world.

    It aint devils and anti-christ I fear, its the religous who want their holy wars is who I fear,
    Also how long has the world been coming to and end,
    According to Self-Ordained Prophets

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    Quote Originally Posted by ObedientBeast View Post
    Until we get past it, we have no 'Facts' about it, simple speculation is the best any can do.
    Earth won’t physically cross the plane of our Milky Way galaxy in 2012, but Earth will cross the galactic equator in 2012. That’s nothing special. As seen from the sun, Earth does this every year, twice.

    Crossing the galactic 'plane' is almost as much myth as the Mayan calender.

    The galaxy is not a rigid, symmetrical object with a clearly definable axis, or plane perpendicular to that axis. The time when the solar system will cross the galactic 'plane' is fuzzy to say the least. Proclaiming to know the the exact year, month, day, hour and minute is priceless. Ascribing deep, metaphysical significance to the 'event' retarded.

    Earth crosses the 'plane' of some galaxy somewhere in the universe every day.
    But, the 'Maya' were so worried, they built monuments, left carvings in stone, at a time when that was a very difficult task, just to warn us, for nothing?
    Surely the number of artefacts made from stone show that it wasn't that difficult for them to do.

    How do you know the maya were worried about anything?
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