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    Myths about Iran’s Nuclear Enrichment Program:

    1. Iran’s civilian nuclear enrichment program is alleged by Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu to be a stealth nuclear weapons program. But there is no evidence at all for this allegation, and it was contradicted by Netanyahu’s own Defense Minister, Ehud Barak, who admitted that Iran has not decided to initiate a nuclear weapons program. Israel’s chief of staff, Benny Gantz, has also admitted that Iran has not decided to build a bomb.

    2. It is often argued that Iran does not need nuclear power. But it uses some petroleum for power generation, and Iranians are driving more and more. There is every prospect that what happened to Indonesia, which now uses all its own oil in addition to importing some, will happen to Iran. Iran’s energy exports provide a crucial financial cushion, allowing the country to remain independent. Other oil giants, such as Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, are also building nuclear power plants. There is nothing illogical or unusual about Iran going in this direction.

    3. It is alleged that Iran has threatened to annihilate Israel. It has done no such thing. Iran has a ‘no first strike’ policy, repeatedly enunciated by Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei. Iran’s president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, has expressed the hope that the ‘Zionist regime over Jerusalem” would ‘vanish from the page of time.’ But he didn’t threaten to roll tanks or missiles against Israel, and compared his hopes for the collapse of Zionism to the collapse of Communism in Russia. Iran has not launched a conventional war of aggression against another state in all of modern history. Israel aggressively invaded Egypt in 1956 and 1967 and Lebanon in 1982 and 2006. The list of aggressive wars fought by the US, including the 2003 invasion and occupation of Iraq, is too long to detail. So why is Iran being configured as the aggressor?

    4. Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei has given a formal ruling or fatwa against nuclear weapons, saying


    “The Iranian nation has never pursued and will never pursue nuclear weapons. There is no doubt that the decision makers in the countries opposing us know well that Iran is not after nuclear weapons because the Islamic Republic, logically, religiously and theoretically, considers the possession of nuclear weapons a grave sin and believes the proliferation of such weapons is senseless, destructive and dangerous.”


    5. Some have alleged that Khamenei is lying in his fatwa, in accordance with a Shiite doctrine that allows pious dissimulation. The permission to lie about religion does not apply where there is a Shiite state able to protect Shiites.

    6. No, the International Atomic Energy Agency, on inspecting Iran, did not alleged evidence for bomb-making. It certified that no uranium has been diverted to a weapons program.

    7. It is often argued that Iran’s nuclear program might spur an arms race in the Middle East. But it is Israel’s arsenal of 400 nuclear warheads that has spurred the arms races. Iraq’s experiments with enrichment in the late 1980s until 1991 were a direct result of knowledge that Israel was given the bomb by France, Britain and the US. If a non-nuclear Iran is so important, why won’t Israel respond to repeated requests by Middle Eastern countries for a nuclear-free zone in that region?

    8. Iran has actually reduced its stockpile of low-enriched uranium at 19.75%, turning it into plates to fuel its medical reactor (which is what Iran has all along said it was doing with that uranium). Iran lost its source of uranium fuel for the medical reactor when Argentina ceased producing and supplying it. (Note that no one put sanctions on Argentina or threatened to bomb it when *it* was enriching uranium to that level).

    9. Netanyahu is implicitly arguing that Iran’s activities are the source of the region’s problems. But his insistence on keeping millions of Palestinians stateless and without basic human or property rights, and his creeping annexation of Arab Jerusalem, site of Islam’s third holiest site, are what inspires hatred in the Muslim world not only for Israel but for the United States. Hard line fundamentalists are so easy to convince of malevolent American intentions toward Islam because the United States has been so cooperative in screwing over the Palestinians and in the Israelization of all of Jerusalem. That the US press let Netanyahu get on American television and not answer questions about the illegal Israeli squatting on Palestinian land and continued depriving of the Palestinians of statehood is a testimony to how the American mass media has abdicated its responsibility to inform the American public.

    Netanyahu in 1992: Iran close to having nuclear bomb:

    Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu is trapped in reflection theory. He was allegedly himself involved in illegally smuggling nuclear triggers out of the US, and he assumes that Iran desperately wants a nuclear weapon as well. But Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has given a fatwa against nukes, and there is no solid intelligence pointing to an Iranian weapons program. Iran can’t be close to having a weapon if it doesn’t have a weapons program.


    He has no credibility left on such warnings.

    Scott Peterson at the Christian Science Monitor did a useful timeline for dire Israeli and US predictions of an imminent Iranian nuclear weapon, beginning 20 years ago.

    1992: Israeli member of parliament Binyamin Netanyahu predicts that Iran was “3 to 5 years” from having a nuclear weapon.

    1992: Israeli Foreign Minister Shimon Peres predicts an Iranian nuclear warhead by 1999 to French TV.

    1995: The New York Times quotes US and Israeli officials saying that Iran would have the bomb by 2000.

    1998: Donald Rumsfeld tells Congress that Iran could have an intercontinental ballistic missile that could hit the US by 2003.


    Top Myths about Iran's Nuclear Enrichment Program | Informed Comment
    Netanyahu in 1992: Iran close to having nuclear bomb | Informed Comment


    The Zionists on the other hand have the
    Samson_Option!! .



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    Quote Originally Posted by comfortablynumb View Post
    Myths about Iran’s Nuclear Enrichment Program:
    Top Myths about Iran's Nuclear Enrichment Program | Informed Comment


    2. It is often argued that Iran does not need nuclear power.

    A. There is every prospect that what happened

    B. Other oil giants, such as Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, are also building nuclear power plants.

    C
    . There is nothing illogical or unusual about Iran going in this direction.
    2. It is often argued that Iran does not need nuclear power.

    True. Iran does not need Nuclear Fission Power Plants

    A: There is every prospect that what happened to Indonesia, which now uses all its own oil in addition to importing some, will happen to Iran.

    False.
    Iran's Proven Oil Reserves ranks 4th IN the World
    and
    their untapped natural gas fields ARE Extensive

    B. Other oil giants, such as Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, are also building nuclear power plants.

    True. They also do not Challenge the West with Open Warfare.

    C. There is nothing illogical or unusual about Iran going in this direction.

    False. The USA GAVE Iran Nuclear Technology in the 1970's.

    Iran became a Theocracy under Ayatollah Khomeini in 1979 and Khomeini stated the Nuclear Technology provided BY the USA was the work of Satan and should Never Be Used BY Iran.

    NOW, after all of Iran's ineffective past 'saber rattling' directed at The West and accomplishing nothing, Iran wants to Embrace the Technology of Satan...?
    ~
    Plus all the equipment Iran has procured that is designed to Enrich Uranium used in Fission powered reactors; this 'enriched uranium being The Key Ingredient for making Tactical Nuclear Weapons
    ~
    What's wrong with that^^^ picture...

    Iran can wait for the release of Fusion Technology... Or Change... ~rore
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    Iran as a member of the NPT can do want it wants within the terms of the NPT, can't it?

    Iran does not need Nuclear Fission Power Plants
    why not?

    Iran's Proven Oil Reserves ranks 4th IN the World and their untapped natural gas fields ARE Extensive
    it's going to run out sometime tho isn't it.

    Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates...do not Challenge the West with Open Warfare.
    No, they just pay for terrorists to fly planes into buildings.

    Plus all the equipment Iran has procured that is designed to Enrich Uranium used in Fission powered reactors; this 'enriched uranium being The Key Ingredient for making Tactical Nuclear Weapons
    ~
    What's wrong with that^^^ picture...
    nothing, if your not paranoid.

    (i'm going back to NYC, a little thing going on....)
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    There were proposals to provide Iran with fuel for their nuclear power plants.
    Russia agreed to supply and dispose of spent fuel.
    Iran could have had all the nuclear power generation capability they would ever need.

    Iran rejected that proposal.
    There is every indication that they do not only want nuclear power.
    They want nuclear capabilities.

    Iran is the only country in the world with the destruction of another country as their mission statement.
    Iran is well known to export terrorisim.
    Just this week they raised the reward for murdering Salman Rushdie to 3.3 million.

    Only an idiot could fail to connect those dots.
    There is very good reason for Israel to be gravely concerned.
    Indeed, very good reasons for the world to be concerned.

    The cautious thing to do would be to pre empt countries who behave irresponsibly in the world community.
    It used to be that whatever a country did within their borders was not a world concern.
    It is modern weapons technology that now makes a countries internal policies a matter of world concern.
    One can no longer judge prudent couses of action on past situations.
    Technology has changed those situations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by comfortablynumb View Post
    (a little thing going on....)
    kay... I'll reply anyway...

    CN: Iran as a member of the NPT can do want it wants within the terms of the NPT, can't it?

    rore: Sure... IF Iran IS Not attempting to build Tactical Nuclear Weapons.
    BUT
    Solid evidence points to Iran's desire to make Tactical Nuclear Weapons
    sooo
    NO, Iran can't just build Tactical Nuclear Weapons

    CN: Iran does not need Nuclear Fission Power Plants
    why not?

    rore: Like I said, Iran sits on some of the richest oil & natural gas fields IN The World and they can exploit Wind & Solar electrical generation and USE Electric-hybrid Cars
    and
    Iran does not need materials for building Tactical Nuclear Weapons

    CN: Iran's Proven Oil Reserves ranks 4th IN the World and
    it's going to run out sometime tho isn't it.

    rore: Hopefully NOT Before Iran's Desire for Tactical Nuclear Weapons 'runs out'.

    CN: Saudi Arabia... does not Challenge the West with Open Warfare.
    No, they just pay for terrorists to fly planes into buildings.

    rore: And still; Iran does not need Tactical Nuclear Weapons

    rore: What's wrong with... Iran purchasing software and hardware Designed for producing weapons-grade material for use in building Tactical Nuclear Weapons...?

    CN: nothing, if your not paranoid. (i'm going back to NYC)

    rore: When it comes to Islamic Theocracies maintaining a Tactical Nuclear Weapons Arsenal
    hmmmmmm that's a real tuffy alright
    A 'pinch of paranoia' IS In Order... ya think... mebbe... jist a tad... ~rore
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