It is my opinion that I have spoken to much about what I know about what is happening in this world. I have talked to Dr Ed Mitchell on his website about alien crafts. this man is one of only 12 people known to land on the moon (I say known since I bet anything the US has sent private missions to the moon).

He has told the public that he has heard stories where Alderin and Armstrong were not alone.

He has seen what he viewed as an alien craft while in space. He is not the only astronaut. But everything is controlled. There was an interview of neal armstrong with somewhat of an emotional look on his face talking about alien crafts and then it's as if NASA told him to keep his mouth shut and in the past year he goes on CNN on Larry King's show and blasts everyone invited about Ufology and that it was nothing more then scientific qwakery(sp). He has shifted on his opinions more then once. It's very sad. But it might be because he is very scared. then Ed Mitchell kind of started to have a change of heart and is more reserved about what it was he saw. It's as if some scientist told them it was nothing more then space debri or parts of the boosters then got them into orbit.

I've heard from several sources as a child that people with Ham radios were listening in on a frequency used as a backup communication during the time that the television networks had paused to carry the first landing. "They're bigger then us and we're not alone". OK, maybe that wasn't the exact quote but it's close enough. I could put this in conspiracy forum but it's littered with enough of this. This is the stuff that is part of my problem dealing with trust of the system. I just don't trust anything anymore. Im not one of these people who says he was abducted by an alien then anally probed. I have a sense of humor, and I've joked at times about that but I know with all my heart that aliens are probably creatures who have lived on earth since it's creation or at least as long as mankind has been here. they're most likely the creatures described as demons.

I've never been a mainstream christian. I don't think God is an alien or anything like that but I think it's very possible that what is mentioned as a charriot wheel on fire in the sky is most likely a UFO. Maybe they're good and evil, with the reptilians being the evil ones.

or maybe they're just here to F8ck things up for mankind. How is it so many people in the world think the same way as I do. And I did have an encounter. I never thought of it as alien. I was sleeping and had what was told to me as a Hallucination brought on by my sleep apnea. I saw a small cat like creature staring at me from the floor. It had the common large black eyes that were asian shape or classic almond shape. I read that this was something that is instilled in all of us because it represents a cat which is a natural preditor to humans. so we hallucinate them and everyone see's basically the same set of "aliens" which are nothing more then sleep apnea related hallucinations. I have been waking up gasping for air for decades now. For a while I was treated with a CPAP machine. It worked great. then I lost weight and I stopped using it because the pressure was becoming to high. Instead of having it lowered and adjusted I stopped using it and slept well. then in the past 4 or 5 months I started having problems again. Probably from the wait I put back on over the past 2 or so years as it goes up and down. Then there is the thyroid problem. I'm told it causes the same problems. Luckily my sleep test shows my sleep apnea has improved. but that's a one day test. In the past 2 weeks I have been feeling like I have felt 5 years ago where I wake up dozens of times gasping for air.

when we're not feeling good, do evil entities haunt us or is it just our minds playing tricks? I honestly woke up the other night with my covers being yanked off of me. I know you think I'm nuts but I often hear pitter patter sounds. What's really scarey is my wife heard it too in the past. It sounds like when our children were young running on the carpet at night to jump into our bed. One night my oldest daughter said a little girl was in her room. then I had my covers yanked off of me. That was years ago and it happened again. Are these "Aliens" and "Hauntings" apart of an evil source playing mind games. Is it possible there is more to this then just oxygen starved brains having a panic attack? It was so real to feel this blanket be pulled off of my body. How can you explain this. How can you explain peoples attitudes towards me lately? In my opinion, it seems everything evil is turning on me and my family. I find it strange as well that I was going to get a dentil device and I made a comment about it and those people never called me back even when they said they would call me in a few days. that was 3 weeks ago now. I'm going back to the CPAP machine. Who told them I said what I said about their device? You tell me. Is one of you talking behind my back. Am I really on the INternet or is this just part of the system controlling my output.

nothing more then mindless dribble from me. But it's not. It's my whole world messing with me as it always has. It never continues. It stops for a few years then starts back up just relentlessly pounding away at me. playing God aweful mind games and haunting my nights. I take tons of xanax and other meds to sleep. without them I just wont sleep, period!!

Where is everyone. Were are all the old friends at. remember... don't talking about things in the real world. You will just be labeled a freak.

Hey Trogg,
As far as old friends go... well all things change I guess, people come and go. I enjoy your posts and have been here for two years?? Re Neil Armstrong, I agree with you there, I know amny times you have been labelled paranoid, or it has been alluded to at least, well in this case I am with you. I have posted elsewhere a long while back about an old friend of mine that was involved in the apollo program and his experiences and there is no doubt in his mind as he has first hand eveidence of the type of thing you are talking about. He heard first hand some of the conversations, he saw photos from the mission showning the objects you talk about, and was also told at the time it would be in his best interest to not talk about it. But that was a lot of years ago and as he said to me at the time, I am an old man, what can they do to me now. So I beleive you on that one. The sleep apnia thing concernes me a little. My wife worked for 12 years for a fellow here in OZ, anyway we all became pretty good friends, his specialist told him that he had the worst case of sleep apnia he had ever seen in his life, to cut a long story short, he is now cured, 100% not just improved, but cured. It was done here by a course he did that taught a completely different way of breathing that retrained hie body in such a way that the sleep apnia went away. No drugs, no operations, just a breathing change. It was here in OZ of course so I am not sure how much use his actual details would be, but I bet if you do enough research in your own country there may be an equivilent course. But just to let you know, regardless of what main stream mediceine saysm, it can be cured, he got rid of his oxygen bottle, everything. If you think it would help I can probably find some more details but he now lives on the opposoite side of the country and we have pretty much lost contact with him over the last year or two.
Cheers

I have sleep apnea and a c-pap machine and I have NEVER had hallucinations of any kind. I think what you saw was exactly what you think it was. I am with you in some ways, I am told I trust to much . I dont that is true exactly.

Thanks dundee.. That's what the dental device is supposed to be for. I would help them study to see if the device works. They're trying new designs. But there are some weird side effects like a stiff jaw and teeth realignment. But I'm told I don't chew normally and if they slowly bring my jaw forward, it will open the breathing mechanism allowing me to breath properly.

Cricket.. it's how I feel sometimes man. I was half awake when the covers were yanked off of me so I got up quick thinking it was my children playing games. it was morning this last event. And no one was in the room. Not a single person. I don't care if people think i am crazy anymore. People live for this world and this world alone. Those people won't be messed with since it's the greatest trick of all to make them none believers.

excuse my poor spelling. I don't do spell checks with ie. I should install firefox. I see my mistakes but i don't feel like editing it out

I commend the astronauts for speaking out when they did.
Someone was pulling their strings, hence the attitude change.

Trog, screw what other people think. You and you alone know what you have experienced. I had my house investigated and now I know I am NOT crazy! I have always thought you were brave to speak out no matter what others think, I just hope you keep on doing it. I will be proud to stand beside you and call you my friend.

You had you house investigated for ghost, bugs...??

what was the out come of it?

trog - I can't address very much, except the weird experience of the covers. Didn't happen to me, but my brother-in-law (committed suicide about 3 yrs. later) told me he'd see his granma sitting in her old rocker in the corner every now & then (nobody else could), and that once he went upstairs into the bathroom to turn on the light (string pull), and a hand grabbed his wrist. Said he felt it plain as anything, and when the light came on nothing was there.

I wouldn't worry too much about naysayers; this forum (I'm new) seems to be mostly that. With very little personal experience in these fields, people make comments that aren't friendly. Once you experience something that's very real, it'll addle your head for awhile, possibly yrs., but sooner or later you'll realize it's non-communicable to those without any extra-ordinary events in their life. Lots of people like that.

I'm hoping you hang in here: Oasphe says there's 2 kinds of people, those with spirit choice, and those with matter choice (90% or better it said, 'most'). Check crickets 'The Grey's Agenda' post, you'll find something along the same lines, insofar as the darwinian types & the more creative types (the darwinian naturally would destroy the other if possible). And be aware, people have a great jealousy for those who claim unusual experience, call them kooks. I think they'd rather die than change, given the opportunity of ultra-mundane knowledge (certain of it). You are not alone.

true..you are not alone.my contract at a job ended at a local authority, coincidently at the same time my intrest in the unusual became knowledge.people belittle,humiliate what they don't understand.don't let them drag you down.

Well I appreciate that guys. That you would take time to read this and not belittle me as others do. What i thought was strange was I made a comment (I believe on this site) about *them* placing a bug in my dentile device for my sleep apnea. That was just the other day. I was preapproved for this device and all of a sudden, 10 minutes ago I grab the mail and got a denile from my medical insurence group. Seems they just changed their mind. They preapprove the payment then turn around and put a stop on it. so back to cpap for me.

This post has been edited by trog: Mar 25 2008, 03:11 PM