Free energy

**Castle-Bravo354** · 07-10-2011, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by bart5050

As brilliant as he was, things often happen just because the capability to make them is available.
The world is going to end up using what suits the budget and need.

DC just does not compete with AC for power distribution.
It is the practical that was going to rule.
Often it is more a matter of the times than the people taking the inititive.

If it had not been Edison or Tesla, it would have been somebody.
It was due because we could.
Theory had made its way into use, and it was going to roll anyway.

bart....I agree with you there....no doubt they weren't the only brilliant scientists working on the same electrical principals....but they delievered first.

Not unlike Alexander Graham Bell and the telephone.....he beat the other guy who is now mostly forgotten to the patent office by a few hours.

**Achilles** · 07-10-2011, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by SOUL-DRIFTER

Tesla's tower transmitted the energy and the car recieved it and converted it to usable electricity. Not exactly free. Free for thr driver so long as the tower kept transmitting.

Free energy is one's point of view.
How do you define free?

Here are some sites about overunity and energy in general...

Free Energy

Free Energy | Dr. Peter Lindemann's Website

Main Page - PESWiki

Thanks for the links SD

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**Makenzye** · 07-10-2011, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by Castle-Bravo354

bart....excellent points....

No doubt Tesla was a brilliant scientist.....it makes me wonder how different the world would be had Teslas power source..(AC) been used over Edisons...(DC).

We DO use A/C.

**Castle-Bravo354** · 07-10-2011, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by Makenzye

We DO use A/C.

mak....my apologies...but my point was that had the war of the currents been won by Tesla and not a draw....as we do use DC as well.....how it may have effected the world.

**Makenzye** · 07-10-2011, 03:50 PM

I thought we just pretty much got rid of the last few D/C communities a couple years ago.

Maybe not.

It would be interesting what the world would be like if A/C were available everywhere. We'd probably run out of resources by now. lol

**Castle-Bravo354** · 07-10-2011, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by Makenzye

I thought we just pretty much got rid of the last few D/C communities a couple years ago.

Maybe not.

It would be interesting what the world would be like if A/C were available everywhere. We'd probably run out of resources by now. lol

mak...good questions.....and as for closing down the DC comminities I have no idea off the top of my head.

***SOUL-DRIFTER*** · 07-10-2011, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by Makenzye

I thought we just pretty much got rid of the last few D/C communities a couple years ago.

Maybe not.

It would be interesting what the world would be like if A/C were available everywhere. We'd probably run out of resources by now. lol

HVDC electric power transmission system uses direct current for the bulk transmission of electrical power, in contrast with the more common alternating current systems. For long-distance transmission, HVDC systems may be less expensive and suffer lower electrical losses.
Also 99% of all electronics are DC either 24, 12 or 6 volt, mostly.

**bart5050** · 07-10-2011, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by SOUL-DRIFTER

HVDC electric power transmission system uses direct current for the bulk transmission of electrical power, in contrast with the more common alternating current systems. For long-distance transmission, HVDC systems may be less expensive and suffer lower electrical losses.
Also 99% of all electronics are DC either 24, 12 or 6 volt, mostly.

Electronics need DC power supplies to operate properly.
Depending on the applications, many voltages may be used.

Switched mode power supplies are most often used for efficiency of power regulation.
These are variable frequency ac oscillators to keep the dc voltage constant at various loads.
Efficient because the power used varies with demand.
A 500 watt computer supply may be only using 150 watts at any given moment, but uses up to 500 as demand goes up.
Higher frequencies is more power at the same voltage.

So your computer power supply is a good typical example.
It converts the house current to DC and powers an ac oscillator with feedback frequency control.
That AC is then converted to 12, 5, 3.3, -3, -5 DC voltages for the PC to use.

That seems kind of crazy, Convert AC to DC to AC to DC outputs.
But AC to DC and DC to AC conversian is very efficient in terms of power use.
No moving parts means high efficiency power conversion.
And higher frequencies mean lighter cheaper components.

So for modern electronics, the AC or DC use becomes a blurry line.

**Castle-Bravo354** · 07-10-2011, 09:02 PM

bart....thanks....that makes it pretty clear for me.....

**Makenzye** · 07-10-2011, 10:44 PM

Originally Posted by bart5050

Electronics need DC power supplies to operate properly.
Depending on the applications, many voltages may be used.

Switched mode power supplies are most often used for efficiency of power regulation.
These are variable frequency ac oscillators to keep the dc voltage constant at various loads.
Efficient because the power used varies with demand.
A 500 watt computer supply may be only using 150 watts at any given moment, but uses up to 500 as demand goes up.
Higher frequencies is more power at the same voltage.

So your computer power supply is a good typical example.
It converts the house current to DC and powers an ac oscillator with feedback frequency control.
That AC is then converted to 12, 5, 3.3, -3, -5 DC voltages for the PC to use.

That seems kind of crazy, Convert AC to DC to AC to DC outputs.
But AC to DC and DC to AC conversian is very efficient in terms of power use.
No moving parts means high efficiency power conversion.
And higher frequencies mean lighter cheaper components.

So for modern electronics, the AC or DC use becomes a blurry line.

Got to it before I could. Thanks.