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It is not a new claim.
Many have made the same claim of producing free energy.
None have held up to investigation.
And none have been suppressed by governments, big oil, or anyone else.
If someone could produce free energy, it would be too big an asset to pass on.

For 5,000 bucks he could sell them to virtually every household in the world.
Making him richer than anyone ever in history.
Corporations wouldn't be trying to smother it.
They would be competing to manufacture it.
I would be very happy if I could get the contract to make a single part for it.

Originally Posted by SOUL-DRIFTER

For over 80 years there has been countless devices made. No doubt most are for a sham...but...it only takes one to change a lot of things.
I would like to see an open offer to any and all inventors with free energy devices to be able to come to a popular site where their working device(they claim) is put through the test with scientist and engineers ..then give the exact name of the device, what it was suppose to do, details of the test, how it is suppose to work and a viewer could see every aspect of the test and see the results, why it does or does not work. And big money investors standing by awaiting that one...that may actually prove it does what it claims. We do not have that from what I see. This would help to weed through the claims more AND allow for that possible one that does work to get the exposure and good backing it would deserve. We are in an energy crunch. It isn't a crisis, but oil will eventually run out. There is untapped energy around us all the time....

SD.....I agree it only takes one invention to change things.....but the patent office is where most inventers go with working ideas as you suggested. If it doesn't pass that the inventions are likely pointless....or won't have anyone waitning for them....

Originally Posted by Scott Hasty

Probably because Facebook sees this for what it is, a fraud. Facebook is a privately owned site and can dictate what material is shown and how it is shown.

How can you get a patent on a fraud? Just asking.

Lutec Australia Pty Ltd - How the Lutec Engine Works

Originally Posted by Orbz

How can you get a patent on a fraud? Just asking.

Lutec Australia Pty Ltd - How the Lutec Engine Works

Read your link.
It has been patented as
“A Means of Controlling A Rotary Device” .

Which is of course what it does.
The patent does not claim it as a free energy device.
So when you buy one as a free energy device, and it does not produce, it was never patented as that.

If it was provable as a free energy device, why does the patent not state it's function?

Could it be that they cannot prove free energy production?

Originally Posted by Orbz

How can you get a patent on a fraud? Just asking.

A patent is not a guarantee of a working device. There are lots of bogus patents that have been granted.

Obtaining a patent is mostly presenting your work and a search to determine there is no pre existing patent for it.
It is not a warranty or guarentee the device is suitable for any purpose.
You do have to make a statement of purpose.
Coorporations generally do not consider anything for possible marketing until it has been patented.
The patent their only guarentee that it is yours to sell.
How many products have you bought that were just plain inadequate to the purpose?

Originally Posted by Castle-Bravo354

SD.....I agree it only takes one invention to change things.....but the patent office is where most inventers go with working ideas as you suggested. If it doesn't pass that the inventions are likely pointless....or won't have anyone waitning for them....

But we do not see what is done and how. People would be very interested to actually see and know claimed devices got a good examination and testing to prove or disprove them.

Here are some facts and myths about patents...

Patents Facts & Myths

Originally Posted by SOUL-DRIFTER

But we do not see what is done and how. People would be very interested to actually see and know claimed devices got a good examination and testing to prove or disprove them.

Here are some facts and myths about patents...

Patents Facts & Myths

They are seeking investers to get their products to market.
If you want to invest I am sure they will accept your money.

Let me outline my analysis of how these devices are cheating.
They are combining an alternator and a motor on the same shaft and sharing the magnetic flux.
The rotor has a considerable amount of mass.

They power the roter with a pulsed dc source so the moter is actually on for very brief periods.
When the moter is off they draw AC power from the alternator windings, which is most of the period of one rotation.
The remaining time frame of a rotation is to deliver the motor drive pulse.

If they don't pull current from the alternator until the pulsed motor brings it up to speed, the rotor has achieved its maximum spin velocity.
For a brief period of time they can draw more AC power from the device than the DC Pulse puts into it.
The extra energy is coming from the momentum stored in the heavy rotor.
Until the rotor starts losing velocity, the device will deliver more energy than it consummes.

However, they can only keep this up until the rotor velocity drops to much.
Then they have to stop pulling power out till the dc pulse brings it back up to full velocity.
When you factor in the time it takes to bring the rotor up to full speed, the output is considerably less than the input.

The trick is to store energy in the high rotational velocity of a heavy rotor.
Then show power values as the convert rotor momentum back to power.
And to show you those power readings before the rotor velocity drops.

It is not a new flim flam trick.
And a very old concept in machine shops.
Metal shears use the same principal.

To cut thick steal, you needed a big powerful motor.
But, if you use a smaller motor to spin a big heavy wheel up to velocity, that momentum is stored energy.
It might take several seconds to get that big wheel up to speed.
But delivering its momentum into a set of cutting shears in 1/10 of a second is a big force.

This device is using powerful magnets to get decent efficiency.
But it is storing energy as mechanical momentum and delivering it at an oppertune moment when the illusion of free energy is needed.

Of course, it can't deliver free energy for more than a few moments, because it needs more research money.
But this is a bottomless pit because it is not free energy, it is hidden energy.

Same thing as getting a train up to speed, putting the motor in idle, and pulling energy off the wheels until the train starts grinding to a halt.
Do that all the way across texas and your fuel bill is going to be a lot bigger than any energy you got out of it.

That is, unless investers start funneling you money.
Then you can buy fuel for a long time.

The concept does have some uses.
Electric cars could use the same concept for motors at each wheel.
Switch the motors into alternator mode during braking and you can recover some of the energy you lose coming to a stop.
A little gain on efficiency, but it is not free energy.

If I could loose my scruples I could build and promote such an overunity device.
Can I get a cool million in developmental funding for a free energy generator please?

I should give up honesty and get into the CT thing.
I wouldnt be as poor, thats for certain.
Maybe Icke or Green or one of those guys needs a good technical assistant.
What do you think?

Originally Posted by Dingo Brains

It's an unbelievable sight and then they go on about how we are overusing the planets resources... so much waste... The throw away society because you can't get spare parts, too costly to repair and too defective in the first place...

Dingo
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This is so true and the result of globalization in the marketplace...