Thread: Flu is Not The Biggest Danger ... It's The Vaccine

Originally Posted by The Hazard

Just another quick comment.

I remember many years ago sitting down and talking to my father (nothing important just a casual conversation) but the subject of some new diease (it may have been HIV/AIDS it was that long ago) came up. My father, who isnt a professor or anythnig but knowledgable in the ways of the world said something I dont think I will ever forget. He told me that the world was too healthy these days and that is why we are getting so many new and deadly dieases. (He meant why these new dieases where emerging). When I asked him what he meant he told me that with all the vaccines children are required to take before they are allowed to go to school, all the anti-biotics that the doctors think are cure alls and all the other quick fix medications on the market for anything from a runny nose to wart on you big toe that we have become to healthy and our bodies natural immune system does have the ability to fight anything new that pops up.

While Im sure that some will argue this to me, at least, the proof is in the pudding and I see my own lack of seasonal flu's, tummy bugs and such as being supportive to this idea. But that is just me and if you are sick or concerned dont let these words of mine stop your from seeing your doctor even if it is just for your peace of mind.

I agree with your father. How can one have a natural immune system if it is or has been tampered with? My immune system is top notch and I haven't had a flu shot since I was a kid. I don't take any pharmaceuticals whatsoever, tylenol included and I've been diagnosed with chronic migraines. A little 'Chinese medicine' fixes that and does a better job than tylenol could ever do. My personal opinion is that a lot of the pharmaceuticals out there are placebos in their own right. Tylenol only works because you think it does but in reality, it is your mind that heals you. Just my opinion though, I have no definitive proof unless you accept experience as proof.

Originally Posted by K-Wurx

I agree with your father. How can one have a natural immune system if it is or has been tampered with? My immune system is top notch and I haven't had a flu shot since I was a kid. I don't take any pharmaceuticals whatsoever, tylenol included and I've been diagnosed with chronic migraines. A little 'Chinese medicine' fixes that and does a better job than tylenol could ever do. My personal opinion is that a lot of the pharmaceuticals out there are placebos in their own right. Tylenol only works because you think it does but in reality, it is your mind that heals you. Just my opinion though, I have no definitive proof unless you accept experience as proof.

Thanks K'. I think he is pretty impressive myself despite leaving school and starting as a butcher when he was 14. On the subject of placebos. I cant speak of what other countries do but here in Aussie Land if you think your doctor has given you a placebos it is easy to find out. Both on the script and on the label you will find the word (this may replace or be included with the drug name) obecalp. This is placebo spelt backwards and it is a legal requirement (so if any doctor on viewing you medication can easily discover that it is not a drug which may be causing negative effects if you present to an ER). How do I know this as fact? Its one of the benefits of marrying the daughter of a pharmasist.

The most common reactions to ANY vacinne would be swelling and soreness around the area where the needle was inserted lasting from hours to a week.

Other symptoms could include flue like symptoms like nausea, dizziness, headaches, muscle aches, lethargy ranging from a day to a week.

Doctors can inform you of the side effects of vacinnes or may I suggest you go to a credible medical site such as the Mayo clinic information web site.

There is always a possibility someone may have a severe reaction to a vacinne.

There is also the reality that certain people will go on to develop fatal illnesses which some think come from the vacinne but would have arisen whether the person took the vacinne or not.

Again I would encourage people to speak with their doctors about the pro's and con's and not rely on conspiracy sites or theories or articles designed to make people feel frightened of science or medicine.

If you fear something how will you ever be able to make an informed decision?

My problem with these conspiracy theories is they are designed to incite fear and when people fear, they are not in the position to be able to consider all the pros and cons.

To me articles that induce or incite fear are a red flag.

Vacinnes have saved many from death and needless medical suffering and complications. To write them all off because someone believes some nasty men are sitting in a room planning to kill us all off is absurd-conspiracy theories are simply the modern version of religion-they fill a vacuum for those who do not understand scientific methodology-conspiracies serve to make that which seems uncontrollable, chaotic, impossible to understand, something that is controllable and is easy to understand.

Conspiracy theories dumb down life. They make a complex threatening world easy to understand.

Mutating viruses are not scary. There is a reason for them. There is a cause and effect process for them.

Whether you want to add to that men in black suits deliberately releasing toxins in the air to control you, is your business.

As for people who believe we are going to be microchipped-why? Where do you think you are going that you can not be found already? Your credit card invoices and the garbage you throw out makes it child's play to follow you. I can see everything you do already from my satellites, reading your e-mails and listening in on your cell phone calls.

Originally Posted by Mika-El

If you fear something how will you ever be able to make an informed decision?

Informed decision? How you expect anyone to be able to make an informed decision when they are only being fed what the vaccine makers and government (both of whom profit from the hysteria they create with repeated over the top warnings supported by forced quarantines and publicly announced compulsory vaccinations). If people do fear such things it is because of the over reaction of those in authority who instill this fear in the first place.

My problem with these conspiracy theories is they are designed to incite fear and when people fear, they are not in the position to be able to consider all the pros and cons.

Whilst I am the first to admit that I am a bit of a conspriacy theory advocate I will also be one of the first to admit that 90% of them (at least) are total crap coming from the minds of people with an agenda against big brother. But given the one sided fear inspiring information that the health profession and the government is plying dont you think the CT's at the very least inform the generally uneducated of the possible risks and alternatives availible to them?

To me articles that induce or incite fear are a red flag.

Read a paper or turned the TV on lately?

Vacinnes have saved many from death and needless medical suffering and complications. To write them all off because someone believes some nasty men are sitting in a room planning to kill us all off

This part I agree with totally.

is absurd-conspiracy theories are simply the modern version of religion-they fill a vacuum for those who do not understand scientific methodology-conspiracies serve to make that which seems uncontrollable, chaotic, impossible to understand, something that is controllable and is easy to understand.

This part only slightly. It is unwise and unjust to paint everyone with the same brush. By these standards could you not also be painted the same as the mindless drones who blindly follow government orders even when it means committing atrocious acts on innocent people.

Conspiracy theories dumb down life. They make a complex threatening world easy to understand.

Blindly accepting everything your told as fact from a source (such as a government, anyone take your pick) with proven records of coruption, deciept, mismanagement, fraud, and manipulaton is, to me, taking the easy way out and is not only dumb but dangerous.

Mutating viruses are not scary. There is a reason for them. There is a cause and effect process for them.

This just makes you sound like a government agent. What isnt scary about a mutating virus? It is also rather 'dumb' to think that the thousands of people who die yearly from just the normal strains of flu along with their families would accept any reason you would present for them.

Also could you expand on this 'cause and effect process' you speak of? I know what I consider to be the cause and effect for them but then again I am just one of these conspiracy nuts so I would be interested in hearing the 'official, preprogramed' reason.

Whether you want to add to that men in black suits deliberately releasing toxins in the air to control you, is your business.

So you admit that the deliberate releasing of toxins into the air for control purposes does take place, bet your bosses wont be happy with this analogy lol.

As for people who believe we are going to be microchipped-why? Where do you think you are going that you can not be found already? Your credit card invoices and the garbage you throw out makes it child's play to follow you. I can see everything you do already from my satellites, reading your e-mails and listening in on your cell phone calls.

The section of the above paragraph that I have bolded. So you are actually admiting to being in the employ of some higher authority and that you undertake the practice of invasion of privacy and illegal surveilance on ordinary citizens who dont happen to be dumb enough to believe your bosses BS. Well thanks for revealing that, hope someone from your office doesnt see this then or they might just give you a jab of one of these safe vaccines for blowing your cover.

Just my opinion, but I think most modern 'conspiracy theories' have a lot of truth in them. Here's a few: Martin L. King assination, JFK assination, Pearl Harbor, AIDS, swine flu, 9-11. KB

Originally Posted by cricket

I dont agree with every thing you said, but I do agree abut taking this vaccine. DON"T take it. I come from a medical family and even my own doctor told me do not take it!! It's a personal decision to make but think about it in the long run. What does it really have in it?? Get information about it, talk to your doctor before you take it. BE INFORMED!!!!!!

http://www.veoh.com/browse/morelike/v19586863JfNhfCgc# watch jesse ventura conspiricy theory this is a 5 min preview of it,it talks about the h1n1 flu vaccine very interstig video its episode 5 secret societys.

Originally Posted by bones1820

http://www.veoh.com/browse/morelike/v19586863JfNhfCgc# watch jesse ventura conspiricy theory this is a 5 min preview of it,it talks about the h1n1 flu vaccine very interstig video its episode 5 secret societys.

Well I gotta say that was a waste of time bones. I was expecting Jesse to actually say something about the H1N1 in detail but we got zip.

Actually I'll retract that. It wasnt a complete waste of time as it did give me an idea for a TV show which if I can get some uninterputed time to work out the details I'll pitch to the tele stations in the coming months.

Originally Posted by The Hazard

Well I gotta say that was a waste of time bones. I was expecting Jesse to actually say something about the H1N1 in detail but we got zip.

Actually I'll retract that. It wasnt a complete waste of time as it did give me an idea for a TV show which if I can get some uninterputed time to work out the details I'll pitch to the tele stations in the coming months.

Lol i found it very interesting to say the least,Sry u didnt feel the same way. Did u watch the hole program or just the 5min?

Originally Posted by bones1820

Lol i found it very interesting to say the least,Sry u didnt feel the same way. Did u watch the hole program or just the 5min?

LOL it was at some ungodly hour (around 3.00am) so no just the 5 min promo. If I dont go lie down soon (which is on the cards lol) Ill give the show a gander.