Welcome Visionoftruth. I struggled to see which side you were falling on. I wasn't sure if in a cryptic kind of way you were PRO-Icke or dismissed him. Could you maybe enlighten me a bit more please. Thanks.
Ben
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Well I just watched his 4 and a half hour movie set. You know being that I am a believer in a creator; he is just another Hindus person that doesn’t make sense to me. I believe a Christ would not die the way he did believing what he did that he was the son/god manifest to help the people because truly we are ugly at nature, greedy and all kinds of other things so for Jesus to be a boogie man plan is off balance in it self i think. Sure all the illuminati, mason's stuff is valid, and true. I am under the personal opinion that Icke is a man trying to misguide the obvious signs the world is giving, and instead of people seeing the prophecy in revelations, he is re warping it with his own understandings. Nah man it all goes back to one thing no matter how much empty space your door has. Nothing + Nothing = Nothing!
if you have something then granted things can happen but no matter = un explainable by even the most open minded science.
In other words with out a omni present creator, you have something that doesn’t make any sense under any laws of nature that we know of. A creator makes more sense than anything basically because when we think of a creator we think of a being into action. Not a science into mistakenness, so even if the world was created from nothing somehow we cant explain it hence creator = the un known but its better common sense to think a omni present being / GOD created the universe rather than a mistake that defies science law even in the most open of explanations.
So basically I oppose his idealisms based back to the big bangs just don’t up and happen. You need matter for any explanation to take place on creation, and in order to do that you need a creator. Quantum Physics only describes how atoms exist and transform, not how atom less matter can create atoms it self it's mere horse pucky ha-ha I said horse pucky......
anyway...
Believe it if you want but the guy really is a good researcher, with lots of tid bits and a Hindu mentality, so what is he really? A extreme Hindu he is just another religion doer in the world.
Someone tell Morpheus that he can keep his pills, because I don’t need them, all i need is the son, my heart, and my faith. I guess because i said son now you think cross, symbols and you’re freaked. Heh anyone can take a balloon and blow it up enormous given there is enough flexibility, and yes man is evil by nature in my opinion so flexibility is endless. Even the word Christianity has been used for so many irrational wicked causes.
One more thing this guy David Icke reminds me of Eminem in a way. He plunders outlandish stuff, and then he turns around and ridicules him self before other people can. It's like a mind trick of getting you to believe he is sane when really it's something highly intelligent little children do to parents to get their way. If i wake up one day and see a reptile molesting my daughter then so be it. Evil could be extra terrestrial, and so could good forms also, but until i see it, the only thing i believe in is the links back to nothing + nothing = nothing. "God"
Nothing else makes sense, and this we are all one stuff is impossible, because evil and good diss allow this idea, and if there is void and love, then that makes sense but you still need a god to create the love, give the love, and save the humans because free will with righteousness is not our strength but hey back when Satan got greedy, god decided then he doesn’t want robots, is that so bad, that it's possible that our creator sort of goes off the idea that you get what you give. Because that's all I have ever known Christianity to teach, and I don’t mean Catholicism, Catholicism is twacked it way too many ways, I mean the bible, the teachings the real words, if you hold to them do they make moral sound sense? I think so.. Sure there might possibly be translation differences in Hebrew scholars, but the basis is there. If you hold to that basis is it moral? Does it show love most of all? Yes it judges those who poison the gift of life it self, but for those who embrace life, life they shall get. Sometimes there is more to life than big picture, if there were some aliens doing wrong then I say let mess it up, cause either way alien or not it doesn’t change creation. No matter of intelligence can defy what I believe to be the truth. It's kind of funny that David Icke uses the truth shall set you free, when
Jesus says:
John 8:32 (KJV)
And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
John 14:6 (KJV)
Jesus saith unto Him I am the way, the truth, and the life; no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Sounds like another man trying to stomp on god's word, oh and all other religions now that's another debate but lets just say this..
Look at the Koran study it and you will find the militant background, sure it's related regionally but fundamentally its no pun intended alienated in sight of the bible, especially the new testament. Ok then look at Hindu what do you got, lets just touch this one with don’t go to Mc Donald’s ever again or you will eat your Grandma, oh and your past life represents your economic role in life. Next lets touch Buddhism, well that is self, its not even a religion in my mind, its just about self conquest, and that would be find if they didn’t attach salvation to it, and a god, that never declared being so.
With that said my mind is made up, however his information regarding the masons, and illuminati and elite or whatever is good for me to know because the NWO is made for the anti Christ in my opinion, and afterwards a good old 1000 years of peace only for humans to mess up again then no more all gone bye-bye......
either way good prevails, evil wins battles but always looses wars....... I mean this in spiritual sense.
What is heaven? I don’t know but then again nothing + nothing = nothing, it’s something that’s all I know, and it isn’t made up if nothing + nothing = nothing is true. So the boogie men don’t get to have heaven and god nope that one is attached to nothing + nothing = something.
Welcome Visionoftruth. I struggled to see which side you were falling on. I wasn't sure if in a cryptic kind of way you were PRO-Icke or dismissed him. Could you maybe enlighten me a bit more please. Thanks.
Ben
I think he's a false prophet.... and he dismisses religion and adds onto a worldly existing one that is already in place. I am not pro Ickle I am however convinced that our government is being lead by money and power, and the illuminati, and masons could very likely be key players, along with other secret societies. The ten heads that lay on the beast is a representation to this biblically. I do dismiss his spiritual beliefs, but I dont deny some of the fingers he points to who is in power. As far as the aliens go.... I don't care men or Martians doesn’t matter, either way the creation / creator is in the real control. However i believe the heavens are our audience and us as people are screwing it all up. We do go on with the few that lead, and we sheep to people rather than to what created us. We let people be our god, and the real source of laws this includes morals, science, everything is ignored (god).
Not by all though there are many in history and now to believe not in men but in faith. Its obvious I am just another Christian however I know lots of wrong is going on in the name of Christianity, and has been for a long time. Let’s say there is a Satan well, this Satan would know revelations and he would know people are going to sense something wrong in the world, therefore they not being religious look for answers and find answers that are new to ages, that apparently was never important in history to possess. Why does he quote Jesus, say he is the Messiah regress, then come up with new philosophy, It's been said by many that satan will try to do in many ways what god promised to do, and repeat gods doings along the way. Well because he thinks he is growing, when actually his conspiracy has already been made he just a stacker of other sources if you go deep with it. You see, i believe a creator exists, and does limit the evil in the world, eventually that evil will fill the bottle, and intervention will be required for the human race. Biblically after revelations you have 1000 years of peace at the end of which people repeat them self, start making the same self destructive decisions again. I am no prophet or anyone special, I do not hold the cross up like a weapon, I hold it close cause i believe in the first messiah pre destined, and although the new testament is a collective put together by the catholic church in 300something AC it doesn’t matter to me, because my lord Jesus existed and prophecy was filled(old testament), and people like Icke are filling other revelation prophecies(new testament) of false prophets. It's predestined but not controlled, its already known, but not a puppeteer god doesnt want robots. Now evil yes it does puppeteer, its own breed. That is how evil survives, it stacks it self it doesn’t grow it copies it self like a virus. However true goodness (true love) does not stack, it grows and i think Christ came with that message setting the things messed up in the old testement correct and giving some real light to truth. But we are also told one life to live. Forgive strive succeed gain it all then it's time to leave.
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