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    To my friends at Alien Hub:


    Dr. Morgan Reynolds, Dr. Judy Wood and myself feel it necessary to clarify our position and address an issue Alex Jones raised in his post yesterday on prisonplanet (see his post below our letter). The following letter was sent to Alex today and we also sent a copy to the U.S. Attorney, Southern District of New York. It was signed by Dr. Reynolds, Dr. Wood and myself.

    via email and regular mail

    Alex Jones
    3001 South Lamar
    Suite 100
    Austin, TX 78704
    http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...ult_videos.htm


    Dear Alex Jones, Paul Joseph Watson and Prison Planet:

    This letter has as its frame of reference the above referenced Prison Planet article that appeared on April 22, 2008.

    I am the attorney for Drs. Judy Wood and Morgan Reynolds. Collectively, we are a group of people who are taking formal legal steps in furtherance of proving the "no plane" theory and the "directed energy weapons" (DEW) causal theory in connection with the events of 9/11/01, in federal court. Thus we are "no planers" and we are "exotic weapons" adherents in the formal sense of putting our proofs of claim forward in legally permissible ways; namely federal lawsuits.

    However, even though we are DEW adherents and we are "no planers," we have neither time, nor interest, nor inclination to engage in threats of any kind, let alone street brawls; nor do we congregate in such places for such purposes.

    Reports about the status of our legal challenges have been made public through appropriate press releases and the documents on file in the cases entitled Wood v ARA et al (1:07cv3314, SDNY) and Reynolds v SAIC et al (1:07cv4612, SDNY) are a matter of public record.

    Our attempt to advance these issues is proceeding solely and exclusively in federal court and legally permissible communications and action; not on street corners and not even in media, other limited press releases and learned journals, websites, etc.

    If, however, we who are taking formal legal action have generated an enthusiastic response from others, then we would like to go on record to encourage such people, in no uncertain terms, to immediately cease and desist from comporting themselves in any threatening way towards anyone who disagrees with them, such as Alex Jones and Paul Joseph Watson, perhaps, and persons who may have come in contact with either of you, directly or indirectly, or anyone else, whatsoever, now, henceforth and at all relevant times in future, without exception.

    That is our clear and unequivocal message and always has been.

    We even go further and also encourage any of those who might be enthusiastic supporters of DEW and NO PLANE theory, even if they are unknown to us, to consider the practice of avoidance of confrontation so that the need to engage in self-defense is less likely to arise.

    We do not say that such people should feel intimidated or feel like their rights to free speech and peaceful assembly should be placed in doubt or that they should be muzzled or feel like they cannot let their position be known. They can and should enjoy and utilize the full extent of their rights, same as anyone else in a democratic society (I am here making certain assumptions that may not be factually accurate any longer, but that is another topic, not covered here. Let us merely assume the existence of constitutional rights).

    Put simply, we strongly suggest that whatever anyone does, on any side in this matter, do it peaceably and non-threateningly.

    If there is anything unclear about this mandate and publicly stated request for adherence to the norms of peaceable assembly and comportment, please let me know.

    Our group relies solely on legal means of proving DEW and NO PLANE claims, as should be obvious, but we want to make that stance as clear as we possibly can.

    Please know, as well, that raising the issue of public threats and airing videos showing violence attributed to "no planers" conceivably sets up a basis for authorities to claim a right to engage in surveillance of all of us, possibly lumping us under the ever broadening definition of "terrorists."

    We hasten to acknowledge that we are not saying you accused Drs. Wood and/or Reynolds of such behavior, however we do say that they are known as "no planers" by some and we also know how guilt by association and categorization works, and we know that you know that too.

    I am here assuming that you do not want any of us to come under surveillance by virtue of being thought to pose a threat of violence. You might not share the same degree of wariness about surveillance as we do, but we assume it takes very little in the way of publicly disseminated information to give rise to justification for surveillance. Posting videos proclaiming that "no planers" have instigated or participated in fighting could be used as a justification for scrutiny, in our view.

    In order to make perfectly clear what our intent is and who we are, this letter is being sent to the US Attorney's office for the Southern District of New York, who has been kept apprised of the developments in the above-mentioned legal cases.

    We do not here claim that any form of entrapment or of pretext seeking to label us as people who engage in violent protest is being engaged in by either of you or by Prison Planet; but, if any evidence whatsoever of such tactics comes to our attention, we will not hesitate to inform the authorities of any such information without further notice.

    Thank you in advance for your consideration and cooperation in regard to the above.

    Jerry Leaphart
    Attorney for Dr. Judy Wood and Dr. Morgan Reynolds
    8 West Street
    Suite 203
    Danbury, CT
    06810

    signed by:

    Dr. Judy Wood
    Dr. Morgan Reynolds
    John Lear

    cc US Attorney
    SDNY



    Post on Prisonplanet.com:

    We Are Change To Release Assault Videos
    Prominent 9/11 Truth organization being harassed, physically attacked by "no-planers" who tried to link group with Times Square bombing
    Paul Joseph Watson
    Prison Planet
    Tuesday, April 22, 2008
    After months of tolerating verbal and physical abuse from a fringe group of emotionally unstable "no-planers" at ground zero, Luke Rudkowski and We Are Change have had enough, and are set to release video showing the assaults and attempts to smear We Are Change as being complicit in the Times Square recruitment center bombing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnlear View Post
    To my friends at Alien Hub:


    Dr. Morgan Reynolds, Dr. Judy Wood and myself feel it necessary to clarify our position and address an issue Alex Jones raised in his post yesterday on prisonplanet (see his post below our letter). The following letter was sent to Alex today and we also sent a copy to the U.S. Attorney, Southern District of New York. It was signed by Dr. Reynolds, Dr. Wood and myself.

    via email and regular mail

    Alex Jones
    3001 South Lamar
    Suite 100
    Austin, TX 78704
    http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...ult_videos.htm


    Dear Alex Jones, Paul Joseph Watson and Prison Planet:

    This letter has as its frame of reference the above referenced Prison Planet article that appeared on April 22, 2008.

    I am the attorney for Drs. Judy Wood and Morgan Reynolds. Collectively, we are a group of people who are taking formal legal steps in furtherance of proving the "no plane" theory and the "directed energy weapons" (DEW) causal theory in connection with the events of 9/11/01, in federal court. Thus we are "no planers" and we are "exotic weapons" adherents in the formal sense of putting our proofs of claim forward in legally permissible ways; namely federal lawsuits.

    However, even though we are DEW adherents and we are "no planers," we have neither time, nor interest, nor inclination to engage in threats of any kind, let alone street brawls; nor do we congregate in such places for such purposes.

    Reports about the status of our legal challenges have been made public through appropriate press releases and the documents on file in the cases entitled Wood v ARA et al (1:07cv3314, SDNY) and Reynolds v SAIC et al (1:07cv4612, SDNY) are a matter of public record.

    Our attempt to advance these issues is proceeding solely and exclusively in federal court and legally permissible communications and action; not on street corners and not even in media, other limited press releases and learned journals, websites, etc.

    If, however, we who are taking formal legal action have generated an enthusiastic response from others, then we would like to go on record to encourage such people, in no uncertain terms, to immediately cease and desist from comporting themselves in any threatening way towards anyone who disagrees with them, such as Alex Jones and Paul Joseph Watson, perhaps, and persons who may have come in contact with either of you, directly or indirectly, or anyone else, whatsoever, now, henceforth and at all relevant times in future, without exception.

    That is our clear and unequivocal message and always has been.

    We even go further and also encourage any of those who might be enthusiastic supporters of DEW and NO PLANE theory, even if they are unknown to us, to consider the practice of avoidance of confrontation so that the need to engage in self-defense is less likely to arise.

    We do not say that such people should feel intimidated or feel like their rights to free speech and peaceful assembly should be placed in doubt or that they should be muzzled or feel like they cannot let their position be known. They can and should enjoy and utilize the full extent of their rights, same as anyone else in a democratic society (I am here making certain assumptions that may not be factually accurate any longer, but that is another topic, not covered here. Let us merely assume the existence of constitutional rights).

    Put simply, we strongly suggest that whatever anyone does, on any side in this matter, do it peaceably and non-threateningly.

    If there is anything unclear about this mandate and publicly stated request for adherence to the norms of peaceable assembly and comportment, please let me know.

    Our group relies solely on legal means of proving DEW and NO PLANE claims, as should be obvious, but we want to make that stance as clear as we possibly can.

    Please know, as well, that raising the issue of public threats and airing videos showing violence attributed to "no planers" conceivably sets up a basis for authorities to claim a right to engage in surveillance of all of us, possibly lumping us under the ever broadening definition of "terrorists."

    We hasten to acknowledge that we are not saying you accused Drs. Wood and/or Reynolds of such behavior, however we do say that they are known as "no planers" by some and we also know how guilt by association and categorization works, and we know that you know that too.

    I am here assuming that you do not want any of us to come under surveillance by virtue of being thought to pose a threat of violence. You might not share the same degree of wariness about surveillance as we do, but we assume it takes very little in the way of publicly disseminated information to give rise to justification for surveillance. Posting videos proclaiming that "no planers" have instigated or participated in fighting could be used as a justification for scrutiny, in our view.

    In order to make perfectly clear what our intent is and who we are, this letter is being sent to the US Attorney's office for the Southern District of New York, who has been kept apprised of the developments in the above-mentioned legal cases.

    We do not here claim that any form of entrapment or of pretext seeking to label us as people who engage in violent protest is being engaged in by either of you or by Prison Planet; but, if any evidence whatsoever of such tactics comes to our attention, we will not hesitate to inform the authorities of any such information without further notice.

    Thank you in advance for your consideration and cooperation in regard to the above.

    Jerry Leaphart
    Attorney for Dr. Judy Wood and Dr. Morgan Reynolds
    8 West Street
    Suite 203
    Danbury, CT
    06810

    signed by:

    Dr. Judy Wood
    Dr. Morgan Reynolds
    John Lear

    cc US Attorney
    SDNY



    Post on Prisonplanet.com:

    We Are Change To Release Assault Videos
    Prominent 9/11 Truth organization being harassed, physically attacked by "no-planers" who tried to link group with Times Square bombing
    Paul Joseph Watson
    Prison Planet
    Tuesday, April 22, 2008
    After months of tolerating verbal and physical abuse from a fringe group of emotionally unstable "no-planers" at ground zero, Luke Rudkowski and We Are Change have had enough, and are set to release video showing the assaults and attempts to smear We Are Change as being complicit in the Times Square recruitment center bombing.
    johnlear,

    Immediately comes to mind some of the strangeness I have seen when footage is shown of of Tibetans and Tibetan monks engaging in protest against China's occupation: when violence starts there are some 'Tibetan activists' shown that look off, kinda making me suspect these hooligans are Chinese agents inserting the violence needed to crack down on legitimate/peaceful protest.

    Do you think some U.S. government agency would go to the trouble of making the qui tam case look bad by association?

    Or is this just the inevitable chaos of Democracy.

    dani
    For this must ever be
    A secret, kept from all the rest,
    Between yourself and me.
    - LEWIS CARROLL, Alice in Wonderland

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    Quote Originally Posted by dani View Post
    johnlear,

    Do you think some U.S. government agency would go to the trouble of making the qui tam case look bad by association?
    Huh?

    Or is this just the inevitable chaos of Democracy.
    Huh?

    Dani, I know English isn't your first language and I try to make allowances.

    But.

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    I have seen your letter to Alex Jones. To me this theory on 9/11 is new. I have never heard of it over here in UK.
    As I remember the other day you mentioned holographic images of the planes and a controlled explosion.
    As I saw it I could never understand how the bulidings came down so quickly after the explosions in such perfect synchronicity. The old design of building, such as the Empire State building made of large steel joists, would not have dropped like a pack of cards. This new design may have dropped more quickly if it was made of light low melting point alloy materials with no central support but if that were so then then weren't the guys who bulit it negligent in the integrity of the design and how many more have they built in this 'new' way. In any event it must be very unlikely that they would both fall in such a controlled and time factored way without strategically placed charges.
    The theory of 'no planers' and a holographic image is possible but what about the passengers that died. Are you saying that the relatives of the dead believe the official story but the passengers supposedly on board never got on a plane and were disposed of prior? That is one hell of an assumption! (Apart from the planning involved.)

    What's your take on that. To me that is so clinical it's insane!
    Robert

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    Quote Originally Posted by robert View Post
    I have seen your letter to Alex Jones. To me this theory on 9/11 is new. I have never heard of it over here in UK.
    As I remember the other day you mentioned holographic images of the planes and a controlled explosion.
    As I saw it I could never understand how the bulidings came down so quickly after the explosions in such perfect synchronicity. The old design of building, such as the Empire State building made of large steel joists, would not have dropped like a pack of cards. This new design may have dropped more quickly if it was made of light low melting point alloy materials with no central support but if that were so then then weren't the guys who bulit it negligent in the integrity of the design and how many more have they built in this 'new' way. In any event it must be very unlikely that they would both fall in such a controlled and time factored way without strategically placed charges.
    The theory of 'no planers' and a holographic image is possible but what about the passengers that died. Are you saying that the relatives of the dead believe the official story but the passengers supposedly on board never got on a plane and were disposed of prior? That is one hell of an assumption! (Apart from the planning involved.)

    What's your take on that. To me that is so clinical it's insane!
    Robert

    AA flight 11 and AA flight 77 never existed. There were no BTS (Bureau of Transportation Standards) records of either departure. We are researching the passengers of UAL 175 and UAL 93 passengers many of who were government employees. Flight 93 stopped of in Cleveland and deplaned all the passengers into the NASA hangar there.

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    Just been on a few sites re 9/11.
    I cannot believe the amount of information and debate about the conspiracies around this.
    It reminds me of the JFK cover up in its verascity.
    I thought these guys had crawled back under the stones after '63 but it looks as though they never went away.
    In fact if anything they are more powerful and organised than ever.
    I thought it was less of a democracy living in the UK than the US. We don't have the freedom of the press like you do. If the government here doesn't like what it hears they just get a D notice slapped on half a dozen National Newspapers in the interest of National Security and we are gagged.
    Thought you guys would be harder to stop since Watergate and the Washington Post journo's.
    Are you expecting anything will come out of it if the Democrats get in or will it be swept under the carpet as usual.
    Any rateGood Luck
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnlear View Post
    AA flight 11 and AA flight 77 never existed. There were no BTS (Bureau of Transportation Standards) records of either departure. We are researching the passengers of UAL 175 and UAL 93 passengers many of who were government employees. Flight 93 stopped of in Cleveland and deplaned all the passengers into the NASA hangar there.
    So the relatives of the 'Dead', if you contacted them, would probably have no idea what happened in reality.

    Incredible and so frightening. It's had more impact on me in it's intricate web of spin than the terrorist threat ever could.
    As I said very similar to JFK in it's surreal effect on 'normality'
    Robert

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    This reminds me of a story about the invasion of Pearl Harbour.
    Apparently the rumour was that Churchill, Roosevelt and a few Intel's new of the attack and let it happen to get the US into the War.
    Still shocked,
    Regards
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    Quote Originally Posted by robert View Post
    Just been on a few sites re 9/11.
    I cannot believe the amount of information and debate about the conspiracies around this.
    It reminds me of the JFK cover up in its verascity.
    I thought these guys had crawled back under the stones after '63 but it looks as though they never went away.
    In fact if anything they are more powerful and organised than ever.
    I thought it was less of a democracy living in the UK than the US. We don't have the freedom of the press like you do. If the government here doesn't like what it hears they just get a D notice slapped on half a dozen National Newspapers in the interest of National Security and we are gagged.
    Thought you guys would be harder to stop since Watergate and the Washington Post journo's.
    Are you expecting anything will come out of it if the Democrats get in or will it be swept under the carpet as usual.
    Any rateGood Luck
    Robert

    Neither a different president or congress can change anything. First the president does not have any power. He or she are basically figureheads and generally have no idea who is running the show. They are given marching orders daily and they basically march to whatever tune provided.

    Both houses of congress have been compromised and subverted in many different ways. There can be no help there.

    About all we can do is watch this monstrosity unfold in all of its diabolical twists and turns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robert View Post
    So the relatives of the 'Dead', if you contacted them, would probably have no idea what happened in reality.

    Incredible and so frightening. It's had more impact on me in it's intricate web of spin than the terrorist threat ever could.
    As I said very similar to JFK in it's surreal effect on 'normality'
    Robert
    The relatives of the dead would have no comment as provided in the settlement agreement with the government. Everyone was paid off to keep their mouths shut and money talks.

    The JFK assassination was a Mossad operation aided and abetted by their CIA mole James Jesus Angleton who helped set up Mossad in 1947. Angleton (the main character in "The Good Shepherd") became Chief of Foreign Intelligence (CIA) in 1960 was was known for his relentless search for the "Russian Mole" inside the CIA. In fact he himself was the mole feeding information to Israel who passed it onto the Russians. Bill Colby (DCI) fired his ass in 1972. There are several statues and memorials to Angleton throughout Tel Aviv.


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