Thread: Occupy Wallstreet: The Revolution has begun

Originally Posted by Kway

I'm not having a go, Niv. I'm just curious what kind of contribution you think these continuous posts about the bad things happening among the protests is?

What kind of contribution do you think these continual posts about supported actions happening is when other actions are ignored and not dealt with by those protesting?...Do you think ignoring a problem makes it go away?...Isn't that the whole point of the protest, to stop ignoring and problem and say and do something about it?...

This gives balanced point of view to those who want to know truthful details of the actions of those involved, whether for or against their movement...

If you wish to ignore some actions in support of other actions that is your choice...

Originally Posted by nivek242

What kind of contribution do you think these continual posts about supported actions happening is when other actions are ignored and not dealt with by those protesting?...Do you think ignoring a problem makes it go away?...Isn't that the whole point of the protest, to stop ignoring and problem and say and do something about it?...

This gives balanced point of view to those who want to know truthful details of the actions of those involved, whether for or against their movement...

If you wish to ignore some actions in support of other actions that is your choice...

I'm not ignoring actions, I just don't find such things of any relevance.
What point does it make that people are breaking the law?
This sort of thing happens all the time.

Flag-Burning at Occupy Charlotte

An Occupy Charlotte member who was jailed after helping burn two U.S. flags told other members late Friday that while he's sorry for the trouble it may have caused the movement, he's not sorry for what he did.

"Those were actions taken on my own behalf," Alex Tyler said at a camp meeting. "I did it to display my utter contempt for American greed, not (the military)."

Tyler, 19, of Fort Mill was among four Charlotte-area men charged Friday when police say they burned two U.S. flags at the organization's camp site in the uptown area. Two were members of the Occupy Charlotte group.

4 charged after 2 U.S. flags burned at Occupy Charlotte site | CharlotteObserver.com & The Charlotte Observer Newspaper

Originally Posted by nivek242

Flag-Burning at Occupy Charlotte



4 charged after 2 U.S. flags burned at Occupy Charlotte site | CharlotteObserver.com & The Charlotte Observer Newspaper

Oh no, they burned a couple of national flags!!!!

Occupy Wall Street Rapes: How Many More Victims?

Occupy Wall Street is an extremely small, fractured and ineffective social experiment that is unable to even provide safety for the young, female protesters that it tries to attract. In a chaotic transcript from the January 7 New York General Assembly, it was revealed that one assailant was allegedly responsible for six rapes.

In the posted minutes, anti-rape activist Nan Terrie told the group:

"The proposal that I brought was an incident that happened and certain groups did not properly address it or handle it. When we had the park, we had an 18-year-old who got raped. She was drug raped. That individual who raped the 18-year-old raped five other girls in this park. My group dealt with rape victims in the park and still does. We have a court date for the 18-year-old in February. She doesn’t live in this city but she comes here. She was occupying one of the churches. The person that raped her also got out of jail. He was in jail for 30 days, paid $50,000 and he went to the same church the victim was. Keep in mind that victim worked with us and we had a restraining order against that guy. The victim voiced her concern to let them know she didn’t feel safe in that place because of this gentleman. Rather than calling me or other women’s working groups, Housing took it upon themselves to have a jury of about 15 and more people between the victim and the gentleman. And they asked for both them to basically give details out."

Terrie appears to be referring to events that started in October. According to this November 3rd article in The New York Post:

"Tonye Iketubosin, 26 — who has been working at the protesters’ makeshift kitchen at Zuccotti Park since last month — was charged yesterday in the sex abuse of an 18-year-old protester in the tent he helped her pitch on Oct. 24, the sources said.

The creeped-out victim told cops that Iketubosin offered to help her put up her tent — and was still inside when she showed up to go to sleep hours later, according to the sources. Despite her furious demands that the sicko get out of her space, Iketubosin allegedly refused — and instead lunged at her, grabbing her thigh and buttocks, the sources said. The enraged protester told cops she was finally able to shove him out of the tent.

The woman told cops about the pervy protester on Tuesday. She said that she knew the man by sight, but had not been acquainted with him before he helped her with her tent.

Iketubosin, who has a sealed juvenile record in Texas, was busted soon afterward. He was arraigned last night, with bail set at $7,500 bond or $5,000 cash. The prosecutor said Iketubosin — who is living with an aunt in Crown Heights, Brooklyn — is a suspect in several rapes in the park."

The Occupy movement is openly disdainful of law enforcement, choosing to cherry pick the elements of the legal system they want to use (such as a restraining order process) while eschewing the parts that they don’t like. the problem is that there collectivist decision-making process doesn’t work. The entire General Assembly transcript is worth reading because it reveals just how convoluted decision-making at Occupy Wall Street has become, with multiple working groups, councils and a consensus process all resulting in a deeply broken system.

Meanwhile, the #Occupy movement actively covers up the crimes committed there to avoid the resulting bad PR. Given the slavish nature of the media coverage they have received, however, the anarchistic occupiers needn’t try too hard.

How many more victims?

Originally Posted by nivek242

Occupy Wall Street Rapes: How Many More Victims?



How many more victims?

People get raped all the time, unfortunately.. Why is this a problem with the movement?

..Do you know how many people have been raped by the police during this movement?

Originally Posted by Kway

..Do you know how many people have been raped by the police during this movement?

Post the reports...

Originally Posted by nivek242

Post the reports...

I can't actually find the media reports.. I don't imagine they even get published.
There's Youtube videos where woman have come crying to police saying that they've been sexually assaulted etc. and even while trying to locate them i've realised that the video publisher's account has been removed because of that video content... Funny isn't it?

Originally Posted by Kway

I can't actually find the media reports.. I don't imagine they even get published.
There's Youtube videos where woman have come crying to police saying that they've been sexually assaulted etc. and even while trying to locate them i've realised that the video publisher's account has been removed because of that video content... Funny isn't it?

Content gets removed on this forum if it breaks the rules and guidelines, so how is that "funny" when another website does the same?...