do aliens or UFO's come from space or another dimension?i feel there i more data to prove they come from another dimension,given the vast distances and energy required for interstellar travel..how would you navigate around space debris at light speed..we know how dangerous it is for the shuttle which is only travelling at 27'000 mph.the way these things disappear seemingly at will,and appear out of nowhere.where do you think these things come from?lets be having ya!

There's very little way to know. Maybe they come from space BY WAY of another dimension, or maybe they have forms of travel that make it easy to travel long distances.

......or maybe they've always been here, but only "recently" it is possible for us to spot them?

but these sightings go back centuries..so they have been here or keep returning here all this time.maybe as i may have mentioned before that they can switch dimensions like changing channel on your tv.you don't actually move in a travel sense more like a change in frequency vibration.then once they have reached there destination they can move at unbelievable speeds.

How do aliens travel through space? I think that is a very good point. I saw a video that explained the way they do it by using a piece of paper as an example of time. You fold the paper in half to make a triangle. (Not a neat half fold, more of a joining of the opposite left to right upper and lower halves and that was the theory, that alien's somehow bend time. For example if you are in the upper left of the paper and you want to travel to the lower right, it could take millions of light years to travel the distance with the paper lying flat in theory but if you bend the upper left part of the paper to meet the lower right like a basket, there is a definite possibility of aliens travelling through a different dimension. The corners join and a hole in time they travel through could be created. Then they could move from planet to planet in the blink of an eye.

Some people believe that they have been here all along, even seeded the earth.
One theory which is widely debated, is that the earths surface is not as big as we've been taught, and that the earth is hollow and even posesses its own inner sun. it is debated that many species of intelligent life live there.

The difference with "our" sightings is that we now can have accurate pictures instead of "only" an impression.

Personally I have hundreds of pictures of IN FOCUS orbs hovering high through the sky, maybe 50 that are quite near (< 150 meters), ONLY 1 that from within about 50 meters. And that one was from a "contact" through binoculars. Although I was very aware of what was happening AND was very aware of observing very accurately, it is "just" my impression.

We all know how our eyes can play tricks on you and since I wasn't there in "the old times" I do not know how to value those old "impressions".



This post has been edited by skylurker: Jul 4 2008, 05:27 PM

I see where you are coming from but don't agree. It is good to see you are looking at some of the realities of this but you seem to be fixating on the hype of how impossible it all is.

There are levels of power that can be handled that make it possible. I think that if you really looked at ways it could be solved you would very much enjoy it. The solutions can be quite ingenious.

With heavy power supplies comes the ability to make engines that can travel vast distances. Time also is not effected by speed so craft can zip around free of that hindrance.

How to get around "space debris"? That's easy, there are a number of ways, I have already explained how to identify and navigate nearly any "debis" found in common travel so don't wish to recap it all again. Suffice it to say it is rather easy even at light speed.

The way they seemingly disappear? That is one of the real show stoppers. A rather vital area of engineering we are lacking at the moment. Interstellar craft can be made that can get around not having this technology but the risk level goes up allot for anyone onboard the craft. As well, all acceleration/deceleration must be inhibited to considerably without it. There is no word in the English language for this technology as it really does not exist right now on earth. The closest would be "anti-gravity" or "synthetic gravity". The same idea about creating gravity in a ship in space but with the machine lifted off the floor and placed into the wall. When the engines kick on "gravity" counteracts the forces allowing for nearly unrestrained acceleration/deceleration, limited only by your engineering and power limitations. This at it's extreme would look like you are magically appearing and disappearing by simply moving to a spot and hitting the breaks.

I got an Orb kinda doing that.. hitting the brakes and it leaves a short trail before stoping and becoming visible.. the orb then just vanishes and so does the trail..


http://s292.photobucket.com/albums/mm17/Co...rbWithTrail.flv

Hey Skylurker.. ive been getting loads of those white objects showing up in photos the past few days..
seem to get quite alot around the sun.. especially in the suns rays.. my cheap kodak camera handles
pointing into and around the sun quite well.. could do with a filter though..

got this thing.. looks like a fried egg

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm17/Co...r/100B5010b.jpg

I think they've always been here and we are just now waking up to being able to consider possibilities outside our small box.

Maybe they are us, waiting for us.





This post has been edited by Dagaz: Jul 6 2008, 09:09 AM

I'm just back (from a short holiday without orbs) and saw your video with the ((dis)appearing orb Buz, looks great! I haven't seen that myself and only know that phenomenon from the NASA shots from outer space. We're gathering great information here! Could you manage to see a certain direction and time of this occurance? What size do you think it was?



This post has been edited by skylurker: Jul 9 2008, 11:53 PM

Hi Buz! The fried egg looks larger than the others. From my experience it shows they are nearer. What is your impression? Yellow? Is (s)he on to something?

Im not sure yet.. i had filmed the sky also and see lots of white things zooming around.. not sure if some
are just bugs.. but ive not noticed brilliant white bugs before.. would be nice if others were pointing
their cameras to the sky also



anyway got a few more... got a chilli pepper this time and a few others

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm17/Co...er/100B6770.jpg

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm17/Co...er/100B6540.jpg

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm17/Co...er/100B6810.jpg

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm17/Co...er/100B6662.jpg

Ok these things most likely will explain alot of the white blobs that show up in photo's.. but what
are they


so heres a vid showing lots of white objects zooming about.. i had my tele lens on and was zoomed
in about half way.. slowed the vid down to 6fps..


http://s292.photobucket.com/albums/mm17/Co...rrent=rods2.flv

I also caught this lantern passing over just as it was about to burn out..


http://s292.photobucket.com/albums/mm17/Co...ent=Lantern.flv


i saw what it was right away.. was so obvious.. wasnt very high though. must have lost some altitude

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By the way Buzzz, nice video.

This post has been edited by Alitalia: Jul 21 2008, 12:52 AM

i dont believe in it at first if there is something out there .....

it may be us in the future ......

this creature or intelegent beings are our own future self...

i know they are flying somewhere in the orbit.........