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Feb 19 2005, 11:38 AM
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The physical evidence of UFOs is actual traces of a UFO being in an area, physical evidence contains vehicle encounter, landing, physical traces, E-M effects, odor, physiological effects, and much more. I would have to say physical evidence is perhaps the best type of evidence out there. I have researched a couple of physical evidence UFO cases back in 1964 and 1957.
On June 29, 1964, a businessman named Beauford E. Parham was driving home in the late evening, he was near Lavonia in northeast Georgia. He spotted a very bright light in the sky coming directly towards his car, and in an instant, it was directly in front of his headlights. The object was top-shaped, it was spinning and emitting a hissing sound “like a million snakes.” The UFO was also amber colored and was about 6 feet tall and 8 feet wide, the UFO had mast-like protrusion on top and small portholes around the bottom which “flames” were visible in them. After that, the UFO had disappeared, then quickly reappeared and stayed directly in front of the headlights again, (estimated to be 5 feet), for at least a mile while Parham’s car was traveling at 65 m.p.h. The top of the UFO tilted towards Parham, he who said he followed it in a “near trance-like state.” Then the UFO went over the car leaving a strong odor like embalming fluid and gaseous vapor. The UFO then appeared for a third time, again heading directly towards the car. The motor began to miss and Parham stopped. The UFO spun “like crazy.” It took off and disappeared in a “split second.” After the UFO had left, Parham began to feel a burning sensation on his arms, so he drove to an air base and reported the incident to FAA officials. They reportedly detected some radioactivity on the car. Parham’s arms continued to burn, even after he had washed them. An oily substance on the car persisted after many washings. The car hood was warped with bubbled up paint, the radiator and hoses deteriorated after the incident. In September 1957, a UFO had exploded in Brazil. Fragments were retrieved from the exploded UFO. This was known as The Ubatuba Incident. This is the only one of the crash-retrieval incidents that is supported by physical evidence that has pieces of the reported craft to study. The pieces retrieved were magnesium fragments, they are composed of known elements, but they do not tell us anything that makes sense, the composition is different from fragment to fragment and from spot to spot. There is no explanation at all as to why some or all the magnesium should have strontium and barium in it. Magnesium that is manufactured on earth does not have these elements, but they could if someone wanted to add them in. The surface corrosion or crust from the fragments in one analysis came out 60% carbon and only 10% magnesium, and there is no explanation for that. There is several analyses by Brazilian and U.S. military labs, but have never been released, but they presumably show up similar results. Your thoughts? |
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Feb 19 2005, 12:24 PM
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(alsogage79) In September 1957, a UFO had exploded in Brazil. Fragments were retrieved from the exploded UFO. This was known as The Ubatuba Incident. This is the only one of the crash-retrieval incidents that is supported by physical evidence that has pieces of the reported craft to study. The pieces retrieved were magnesium fragments, they are composed of known elements, but they do not tell us anything that makes sense, the composition is different from fragment to fragment and from spot to spot. There is no explanation at all as to why some or all the magnesium should have strontium and barium in it. Magnesium that is manufactured on earth does not have these elements, but they could if someone wanted to add them in. The surface corrosion or crust from the fragments in one analysis came out 60% carbon and only 10% magnesium, and there is no explanation for that. There is several analyses by Brazilian and U.S. military labs, but have never been released, but they presumably show up similar results.
I haven't heard of this incident before, very strange. The 1st one with the burning arms is very dangerous with the radiation. The man involved should have made a huge fuss about it and got people to investigate. alsogage79- Would you call the area at rendlesham Forest where no grass grows a physical trace? |
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Feb 19 2005, 01:34 PM
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(alsogage79) The physical evidence of UFOs is actual traces of a UFO being in an area, physical evidence contains vehicle encounter, landing, physical traces, E-M effects, odor, physiological effects, and much more. I would have to say physical evidence is perhaps the best type of evidence out there. I have researched a couple of physical evidence UFO cases back in 1964 and 1957.
I've herd of alot of things that will happen when a UFO gets near a car. The engine will die, the radio will shut off, and just about anything else that runs on the battery will die. I have never herd of a UFO coverng a car with radiation though. Any idea of what finaly happened with the car. |
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Feb 19 2005, 01:42 PM
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i know where there might be a crashed ufo, and could still be intact today.
is anyone interested ? |
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Feb 19 2005, 01:47 PM
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Yeah I'm sure most people on this forum would be interested, but I thought that the Army would have collected it up ages ago.
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Feb 19 2005, 03:11 PM
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Hi UFOhunter, yes, I would say that it is a physical trace. Jethrob I am interested.
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Feb 19 2005, 03:39 PM
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i know where a ufo crashed into the sea but was never recovered as army did not know about it crashing (only reported sighting) and radar did not pick it up.
its very close to shore line and water should not be too deep. possibly a infra red sattelite image would pick it up?? |
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Feb 19 2005, 03:46 PM
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Here is some more research I did, it's another physical evidence UFO case.
On January 8, 1981, in Trans-en-Provence, France, a farmer named Renato Nicolai became attracted by a strange noise coming somewhere from above, so he looked up and noticed a strange object descending on a nearby hill. Nicolai decided to approach the object, and when he started going towards it, the object made a very high-pitched whistling noise, after that it shot up into the air with amazing speed. He described the object as being small, a few feet in diameter, grey in color, and that it had small 'landing' legs on its base. Then he reported this to his friend, and his friend alerted police. The police quickly announced that they had no explanation for the sighting. The police had gathered soil samples, and they were sent for examination in Toulouse. The examination of the samples found that the ground was crushed from above and had been heated to a temperature of 300c to 600c degrees. They also found unusual levels of zinc. The plants that were examined had been found to have 50% less Chlorophyll (chemical vital to all plant life). Nicolai was examined also by psychologists and they all concluded that he was telling the truth. Does anyone else know of any physical evidence UFO cases? |
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Feb 19 2005, 04:06 PM
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(Triple H) I've herd of alot of things that will happen when a UFO gets near a car. The engine will die, the radio will shut off, and just about anything else that runs on the battery will die. I have never herd of a UFO coverng a car with radiation though. Any idea of what finaly happened with the car.
I don't know what finally happened to the car, but I just found out that the Air Force said that Parham did not see a UFO and only saw ball lightning, Parham did not accept this. This explanation is weak though. The physical characteristics of Parham's sighting do not correspond with the ball lightning explanation. |
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Feb 19 2005, 07:34 PM
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so they admit to seeing ball lightning?
if you could prove the conditions were not right for that to occur then u can take it as they saw the ufo too. |
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Feb 19 2005, 09:13 PM
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Here's an image of a so called drawing of a UFO. I'm pretty sure I got it from the disclosure website in one of there documents, can't really remember though.
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Feb 19 2005, 11:11 PM
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(alsogage79) I don't know what finally happened to the car, but I just found out that the Air Force said that Parham did not see a UFO and only saw ball lightning, Parham did not accept this. This explanation is weak though. The physical characteristics of Parham's sighting do not correspond with the ball lightning explanation.
Ball lightning wouldn't do all that to a circuit system, it would ground on the tires and not cause much if any electrical damage. Sounds like magnetic interferance. |
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Feb 20 2005, 08:10 AM
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Jethrob,
Only the Air Force labeled the case as ball lighting. Like I said, this explanation is weak though. Parham said "There was not a cloud in the sky," . "Lightning would not rotate at top and bottom as this object did. . . It was definitely not that because ball lightning could not have followed my car at least two miles." That is a very good point to me. Ball lightning usually lasts for a few seconds, and occurs more on the high mountains than the lowlands. Like Parham had said, ball lightning would definitely not follow his car for a least two miles and would not rotate at the top and bottom as the UFO had did. |
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Feb 20 2005, 08:37 AM
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I don't think it could be magnetic interferance. The oily substance on his car would not come off for repeated washings, and I don't think magnetic interferance would do that. Parham also reported that the UFO was a giant spinning top and that is where the physical traces came from, and if true, then could defintely not be magnetic interferance. Here is a drawing of the UFO seen by Parham.
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Feb 20 2005, 09:18 AM
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(alsogage79) I don't think it could be magnetic interferance. The oily substance on his car would not come off for repeated washings, and I don't think magnetic interferance would do that. Parham also reported that the UFO was a giant spinning top and that is where the physical traces came from, and if true, then could defintely not be magnetic interferance. Here is a drawing of the UFO seen by Parham.
![]() Why couldn't an EMP pulse or some other electro-magnetic interferance cause his car to fail? What does the oil substance have to do with it? Regardless, its strange enough to believe that this was not ball lightning, but what it was we don't know. Is there more info on the case? |
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Feb 20 2005, 09:20 AM
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(jethrob) i know where a ufo crashed into the sea but was never recovered as army did not know about it crashing (only reported sighting) and radar did not pick it up.
its very close to shore line and water should not be too deep. possibly a infra red sattelite image would pick it up?? jethrob, why don't you go get it then? This would probably be one of the greatest finds to the cause, and yet it lay out there in the briny deep. I'm sure if it really was something of "intrest" the government would have retrieved it long ago. |
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Feb 20 2005, 09:53 AM
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(Man?orAstroman?) Why couldn't an EMP pulse or some other electro-magnetic interferance cause his car to fail? What does the oil substance have to do with it? Regardless, its strange enough to believe that this was not ball lightning, but what it was we don't know. Is there more info on the case?
An EMP pulse or some other elctromagnetic interferance could cause his car to fail. I was trying to make a point with the oil substance, that it just wasn't a magnetic interferance, that it may have been a UFO, because I don't think any ordinary substance could persist on something after many washings. There is more information on this case and it is located at http://www.nicap.dabsol.co.uk/640629rep.htm |
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Feb 20 2005, 06:03 PM
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(alsogage79) An EMP pulse or some other elctromagnetic interferance could cause his car to fail. I was trying to make a point with the oil substance, that it just wasn't a magnetic interferance, that it may have been a UFO, because I don't think any ordinary substance could persist on something after many washings. There is more information on this case and it is located at http://www.nicap.dabsol.co.uk/640629rep.htm
The oily substance seems to be a variable in the whole encounter. Find out what the substance is and the answere would fall into place. Seeing how it is unidentifyable, I would think this case hard to solve. A lot of patroleum products are pretty water resistant, but don't seem to be that resiliant. Any theories? |
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Feb 20 2005, 06:41 PM
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(Man?orAstroman?) The oily substance seems to be a variable in the whole encounter. Find out what the substance is and the answere would fall into place. Seeing how it is unidentifyable, I would think this case hard to solve. A lot of patroleum products are pretty water resistant, but don't seem to be that resiliant. Any theories?
Yes it does, I can't find what the oily substance is, it may not be on the internet. I have found out that Parham washed the car several times to try to get the oily substance off. I acutally found out some interesting information that relates to the case, the following week after Parham reported the sighting, nine people in Tallulah Falls, Georgia, described seeing a cup shaped object that had red, green, and white lighting, and producing an odor that is comparable to the "brake liquid" or "embalming fluid" that the UFO Parham had seen left. |
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Feb 20 2005, 09:27 PM
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(alsogage79) Yes it does, I can't find what the oily substance is, it may not be on the internet. I have found out that Parham washed the car several times to try to get the oily substance off. I acutally found out some interesting information that relates to the case, the following week after Parham reported the sighting, nine people in Tallulah Falls, Georgia, described seeing a cup shaped object that had red, green, and white lighting, and producing an odor that is comparable to the "brake liquid" or "embalming fluid" that the UFO Parham had seen left.
The plot thickins! Cases like these are very hard to refute, when so much physical evidence and other credible witnesses step forward. Does it say if he was abducted or remembered anything strange? |
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