We ask what the purpose of life is. Why are we here? Well I haven’t read anyone ask why was this universe put into existence.

God, and the universe the two most misunderstood things within our minds
We still have difficulty understanding the existence of UFOs and yet we have seen those.

But what about the universe, is it not purely theoretical we have no hard evidence leading to the existence of the universe or even why and how its here we just know something has to accompany the unfathomable amount of space out side our solar system. So why was the universe put into existence? And how

Because it seems the universe is just the construct of our imagination and how we constantly search for the answers to questions we can’t possible comprehend. Is there a meaning?

Perhaps to separate us and the many possible intelligent creatures that god has created. Why then?

Hmmm I have to disagree, those of a religious disposition will argue that the purpose of the Universe is clear, those of scientific mind can explain the universe away in terms of physics, those (Like me) who have no brain for either subject just think it looks pretty.

Ben

yes, but still the existance of the universe is still purely theoretical. We are not even sure if the universe has an end

No but we know it exists, in the same way that we know a sea or an ocean exists but we may not know how deep it is.

Ben

Ok, so the universe is to exist simple becouse we assume it does where is the
proof? . You cant compare nothing to somthing

'The Universe' is simply a term used to convey the notion of 'everything' that is out there, in the same way that a 'bed' can come in many shapes, forms and sizes but we still know what a bed basically consists of? Do you see what I mean? There is no comparison necessary really, it is a sea of planets, stars and other things of which we have plenty to compare and the Universe represents the sum total of all of them (The fact that we don't how many there are is our problem not one of the Universe's).

Ben

Going away from "if the universe exists" (which it does), I too am curious about the "why".....I dunno, have'nt a clue nor a theory.

I do have another question though. What is on the other side of the universe. If the universe is expanding, it must have an end, or it could not expand, unless it is a ball, and the ball is simply growing larger. But what is the universe growing into?. There must be something on the other side for it to expand into. Too many questions.

Lol, I dont think we will ever find the true answer as to why it was created, atleast not within my life time.


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Perhaps the universe is the ever growing consciousness of this thing we call "GOD" and due to the fact that this consciousness is infinite, whilst ever expanding,is doing just that" expanding" within itself,outside itself,becoming more than it was,trying to understand what it actually is(itself) whilst creating deeper perplexing mysteries of its own creation for those that exist within its imagination.We have at times constructed things,only to find that by deconstruction do we know how we came to the conclusion in the beginging.I hope this makes sense in some way
YOURS EDDIE

It exists/expands because we think/know/predict it does/is?

we won't know until we reach that other relm...when we gone.
dak

The universe was put here because of probabilty. In the time of a vacuus space (which may have never been) their was no time. And in that vacuus space their were quantum fluctuations. Quantum fluctuations and zero point energy is everywhere but it is rare for either to become matter, but remember their was no time. So even if it took 1 billion earth years for one atom of matter to exist because their is no time their is bound to be tons of matter. After a time all of that matter's gravity pulls it together, it heats up and we have a big bang.

Well we know the universe expands and shrinks. We also know that there may be an infinite number of universes. So the purpose of existence? To experience and ask questions. Each time you ask a question, you create existence and an experience.

hmmmm....Rube now you are getting into the theory of Multiverse. Infinite universes in which matter, thought and all that is known and unknown is stacked on top of each other to make the one reality. The question at hand (talking about multiverse) is if there is all these existances that spawn and evolve at an infinate rate then are all things possiable? I have this rock here in my hand and I can think of many events concerning this rock but do these events manifest themselves into the reality that I exist in? There is still some limiting force that stops me from manifesting the impossiable.(concerning the rock) So in a sense there is no ultimate free will until one is capable of manifesting or inducing any and all events possiable. How do we do this? One would have to know all possiable outcomes concerning the event they wish to manifest, modify or induce. There is only one being I know that can do this and is name is The Almighty One.

peace,
Austin

ps. Sorry for getting a bit off track couldent stop the freight train of thought.

we are too simple minded to understand. thats why we dont know, if we were more advanced, or were able to use our brains correctly then we'd know. tbh.

its like the saying, if its not broke dont try to fix it, or, if its there, dont question why its there, just to know its there should be enough.

don't cloud your mind with questions that are incomprehensable by our primitive minds, hell we cant stop killing eachother because we're so dense as a race. just leave it be, if you need to know, you'll be told.

See thats the attitude that is holding back the human race from flowering out into something much greater. I think you are very wrong Mr. Monkey. You dont give yourself and the human race enough credit.

peace,
austin

Galvacon you ask very good questions. At this point in time I tend to think think because our minds by nature are imperfect, everything the mind perceives must also be imperfect or defective or illusionary and so suspect. So I think of existence or life as being quite absurd because when you think about it - you can't think about it! That said, I like to think free will is something all forms life have the ability to exercise regardless of our imperfections or limitations and that when it comes to exercising free will - it is a wild card - no one quite knows what will happen when we choose to exercise it - anything can happen. So as much as we think we know past, present and future, to me it is all an illusion played out by how we choose at any given moment to exercise our free will. So to me there are at least or at minimum two parallel realities - the one we feelis destiny and is already played out and people have the ability to predict if they are clarvoyant, and the other reality - the one that can happen at the spur of a moment changing the time line of the other reality and creating a new future or time line. Some people believe the cross is actually a symbol of these two parallel realities intersecting and then headed in different directions never to meet again. Yegards these multiple possibilities and multiple demensions of possibility, thought, time, reality, destiny, all capable at a momen't notice being consructed or deconstructed by a simple act of free will. The most simple of actions decided by free will could cause a cascade of unending cause and effect or karmatic
flow. It is rather chaotic and yet it seems to have both chaos and order in it at the same time. Ah Monsier Monkey the pt. is I believe Galvacon is suggesting there is more to life then eating bananas.

Whether or not the universe is expanding is not a fact, but a matter of perception. Terrans frequently confuse issues speaking of astronomical matters because they have very little experience. Here then i present the facts. Before we can continue we will have to agree on some simple definitions. Space, what is it? Space is the absence of matter. Matter, what is it? Matter is a conglomeration of charges. Measurement, what is it? Measurement is a terran procedure for marking off repetitive quantities of similiar distance mathematically proportionate distances or other on an object which will be utilized for "measuring". For mass to be measured in the physical dimensions of length, width, and height, it must be compared to a measuring device. Space does not have any dimensions. Infinity is only truly applicable to space, as there exists no matter in the universe that has a dimension of infinity. Though this in itself is a fallacy, for how can anyone say that nothing goes on forever, and yet you can say it. Though the greatest terran scientists would be hard pressed to measure nothing. The concept of assigning the largest value in the universe to nothing, is a common problem of terran mathematics. Terrans are closed biological computers. Terran biological computers receive inputs from their five senses. These inputs are then assimiliated in a database and the terran uses these inputs to make decisions. Thus all that terrans know come from their five sensors, though terrans may conceptualize ideas. By this I mean, that while you know 2+2=4, you have certainly never smelled 2+2=4. Even if you have seen 2+2=4, you have only seen the mathematical terran symbology of quantities. Even if you have heard 2+2=4, you have only heard, in your language, the mathematical formulary of an equation. Even if you are blind and have touched 2+2=4, you have only received input of mathematical symbology. 2+2=4 is not real, it is a concept, and therefore cannot be known unless applied to real objects. Terrans confuse the difference here, and it is essential to understand the universe. Space, because it has no dimensions, can be said to go on forever. Space can be said to be infinite. Terrans don't understand that space have zero dimensions has also zero attributes that are measurable. If you have a stick of wire that goes on forever at both ends, then you would definitely be justified in saying the length of the wire is infinity. Thus we see space as zero, and terrans see space as infinity. It's a conceptualization problem. Matter or mass which exists within space is measurable, and does have dimensions. You may stack matter, you may not stack space. The universe then must be all the matter which is found within the nothingness. The universe then, is expanding, and will eventually collapse, the theories of dark matter and the continued expansion of the universe are entirely incorrect. The universe cycles. Consider a giant collection of matter (giant is relative) What terrans consider as the planets, stars, nebula, etc. all began from one "giant star". But there are many such events in space, and many more such "giant star explosions". That is to say, what terrans call the big bang is just one such event of many throughout space, though with terran technology these other matter disintegrations cannot be sensed, and therefore cannot be proven to exist. Though terrans usually say things like "there is one cubic foot of space in this box.", they are always incorrect. Consider a teacup placed in space. If I ask you to measure the space inside the tea cup, terrans would say, "1 cup." We would say "Zero.". We would be correct. Firstly a teacup on your kitchen table contains atmosphere, unless of course it contains tea or some other liquid. (notwithstanding quark systemology) But if by terran terms, the teacup is empty, then we would say it was full of atmosphere. Only mass can be measured, or the distance between masses. You could easily take a measuring device and yield a diamter of the cup, and using the same measuring device go from the bottom of the cup to the brim, and calculate the volume of the cups capacity to confine a liquid in a gravity field. But what you are really giving to me, when you give me the diameter is the distance between the mass at the widest point which makes up the walls of the cup. So it is that if you measure the distance between earth and jupiter, you are not giving me a measure of the space in between them, but instead a measure of the distance between them, where distance is a repetitive length of a known predefined quantity. This may seem subtle to you, but to us it is as day and night. Time is also a fallacy. If you will take a 12" ruler and bend it in a circle, you have the face of a terran clock. If you manufacture a device to advance around the face of the circular ruler at repetitive intervals, you have a clock, irregardless of the interval base. Time is a man made concept. Time does not exist. To show this more clearly consider this, If everything in the universe were to suddenly become static, and nothing moved at all, how would know time was passing, even if you had a working clock, and you and the clock were the only thing moving? So it is, as terrans define time as the interaction and movement of all mass perceived by their sensors, in comparison to a device which advances a preset amount at a regular interval. There are many problems with terran mathematics, while there is much that is correct, there is much that is incorrect. Let me show you a simple example. If you were to study the simple mathematics of Albert Einstein, you would find that mathematically such things as time travel and the warping of space appear to actualities. Mathematically it would all hold up. i apologize if i offend you, but "simple" is a relative term. I am aware that you might study Einstein's theories of relativity for decades before comprehending them, or perhaps you might study them all your life and never understand them at all. So let me present you an analogy to help you understand. A corporation manufacturing automobiles formulated an equation which would indicate the point at which the automobile would stop (relatively speaking) based on a time one t1 when the brakes were actuated with force f at a speed of s. *note, not withstanding "advanced mathematics" such as xychognar (chaos theory) and other influentials such as variations in force of pressure exherted, gradient, surface constituancy, gravity, inertia, friction, atmospheric density, atmospheric composition, miscellaneous particulates, various radiations, temperatures, braking system type i.e. pad, drum, etc. , and so forth. For all automobiles this equation says that if you press the brakes with force f at point p1 the vehicle will stop at point p2 in time t2 with a distance of d. It is currently used in the manufacture of all terran braking systems. However, there comes a point where actuating the braking system actually stops the vehicle before the brakes were actuated. Mathematically it works out, but physically it does not work out. Such is the same of Einsteins theories. While conceptually ideas may seem realistic, they are not physically possible, and this is due to the terran mathematics behind the calculations. So then it can be seen once you comprehend his equations that though they appear to be true and provable they are completely incorrect at a point.

Okay Joshua....I give in.....if we are 'terrans' then what are you? And don't you use paragraphs in your neck of the Universe?

I'll come back to the 'time' thing later.

Ben

I must say, you Open with such a strength of magnitude of
science,and through time there are calculations for everything you ask for.
I wrote them and published them from a NASA site or a
science site a few months back. They are several pages long.
My father was an astronomer,astro-physicist,aerodynamics
and propulsion engineer amongst being a dad, and mentor for me.
Carrying the knowledge of the galaxy,and 20 years,50 years ahead of what JUST NOW IS DELIVERING is what I was given to know at the age
of 4-6 years old so that I would understand the electromagnetic fields,
the explosions and births of a star, comets, and the beautiful [almost
magical way] how the universe is growing and expanding is as soft and
loving as the stars in the midnight sky. Metaphorically speaking, the
knowledge of our being -isn't too far off as you try to describe! So,
I am charmed by your knowledge and brief sustenance of the sciences
of astronomy and the gama fields of which we all share!
The wider your mind can grow and understand the galaxy, the mass
and weight and science of how physics makes each item that changes,
grows,and how atoms are continuous in all things, and unseen which
are found to be read in great lengths at any science center in most
big cities in the nation.
Curiously, your own body does carry large amounts of carbon-just like a star-
and the combined atoms of H20 deliver unequivocal and electric charges
that are held with a rhythm,very similar to the way a star pulses through
the galaxy.
I wanted to wish you thanks for your introductory, and I got a little bit
carried away! Have fun here! Have an exploration at a Science Center
Near you! ~~~Peace~~~
ISIS conscience,conscious,consciousness