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post Mar 13 2005, 03:26 PM
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Intersting,You people never cease to amaze me. :laugh:

After watching Constanine, I was amazed to hear that Jesus was killed on the cross :laugh:

Do you honestly believe Jesus was killed on the cross?
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post Mar 13 2005, 05:45 PM
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no..........not everyone is Catholic....and believes......in the biblical sense....

question I have is what do you think?

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post Mar 13 2005, 07:30 PM
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Intersting,You people never cease to amaze me. :laugh:

After watching Constanine, I was amazed to hear that Jesus was killed on the cross :laugh:

Do you honestly believe Jesus was killed on the cross?



Let me get something strait. You did'nt know that a large, large, large majority of christians believed jesus to be killed on the cross?. Did you ever wonder why there are thousands of crosses (in churches/homes/around pooples necks) with jesus proped up on it?.

You make it sound like we're stupid.....

PS. I am not christian, and so I neither believe, nor count out the possibility that jesus lived at all.
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post Mar 13 2005, 07:37 PM
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Jesus was never really killed, and the sad fact is that most Christians don’t even know who there supposed lord is :laugh:

Let me tell you something, Jesus was never put on that Cross the thrones where never put on his head and the spear of destiny is a worthless object.

How do I know this? Well it’s difficult to explain so ill leave that up to you.

Jesus was being chased by the Jewish civilians, for they thought of him to be the false messiah, he ran into a house on the out skirts of Jerusalem where a man began to yell out “here is the false messiah he has entered my home"
The civilians called the man Jesus for his facial appearance changed due to the will of God

And they placed the false Jesus on the cross.

(The Christians have been wrong about Jesus beings Gods son )
(And they have been praying to a false Prophet as well.)

Well I’m not sure entirely what will happen, but it seems the Christians are a getting a 2 for 1 deal to me
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post Mar 13 2005, 07:42 PM
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How do I know this? Well it’s difficult to explain so ill leave that up to you.


What a joke.
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What a joke.


as I said its up to you
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That's the joke.
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Well what are your opinions?
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post Mar 13 2005, 07:53 PM
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That anything is possible.

If I were to claim something as "bold" as what you speak of, I would have an explanation to go along with it. Some actual facts maybe....

It would be like me saying Gandhi was a 300 pound slob. Then telling people to take my word on it. Seems far fetched and goes against many beliefs, not to mention it would pissoff many a hindu.

Deliver some facts.
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Its hard to deliver the FACTS when the FREAKIN Bible has been MODIFIED to keep those FACTS from EVER being discovered
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By facts, I mean how you came across this information. And it's really not that hard to deliver the "facts" (if you have them). What will be hard, is to convince devout christians that they're beliefs of jesus are wrong, and yours are correct.

Lucky for you, I am not christian, so throw out what you have, and I'll look at it with my open mind.
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post Mar 13 2005, 08:08 PM
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(?) Where did you get this information from?
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post Mar 13 2005, 08:15 PM
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That's what I'm asking....
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That impossible firstly,
What makes you think that the Christians are prepared for what God has to offer?

If they were ready they would have seen the signs. Not to say all Christians haven’t seen the signs some Christians have but not as much as there should have been
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That impossible firstly,
What makes you think that the Christians are prepared for what God has to offer?

If they were ready they would have seen the signs. Not to say all Christians haven’t seen the signs some Christians have but not as much as there should have been


Dude, your full of shit.

I am telling you I am not a christian, and that I will look at wat you have to say with an open mind.

If you believe people are not ready for what you have to say, then why'd you make this post in the first place.

Now more than ever, you seem like a fraud.
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Ill try to Explain This
it was one of the Judas who actually died on the cross and because Judas had a similar physical appearance to Jesus even his own mother didn't recognize him as the wept at the foot of the cross. For 600 years Christians had been preaching Christ crucified. Then Muhammad comes along, jumps off his camel and gets a direct revelation from God that the universal record of history and the 10,000 manuscripts of the Bible, are all wrong.
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Ok. I am still curious as to where you came up with this...Ie. facts...

So if what you say is true, what happened to jesus?.

By the way, why would an all loving jesus allow an innocent man to be crucified in his place?. Or is this interpretation of him wrong aswell?.
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Intersting,You people never cease to amaze me. :laugh:

After watching Constanine, I was amazed to hear that Jesus was killed on the cross :laugh:

Do you honestly believe Jesus was killed on the cross?


Okay Mr know it all on this one I gotta agree - Jesus did not die on a cross he died on a torture stake which is in fact one beam of wood. Torture stake was misstranslated to the word Crux and from there all derivates of the idea of Christ dying on the cross arise. It is relatively simple to prove this (Although most folks don't wanna know) as all other contemporaries of the period died the same way due to a chronic wood shortage as recorded in Roman records of the period.

However whether he had one lump of wood or two shoved up his bum it was still Jesus who died!!!

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post Mar 14 2005, 09:54 AM
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Looking over this thread (?) someone has been feeding you manure in relation to the bible. All the coptic scrolls are intact, all the syrian scrolls are intact, hell there's heaps of scrolls intact and even now as we find more that ARE OLDER than the ones we used to create the Bible we find that the integrity of the ones we used was pretty damned good (Not perfect) but good.

Where are you getting this from? Incidentally I'm no Christian either but I do resent historical fact and artefacts being re-shaped to suit the inane wanderings of a mind incapable of grasping the fundamental tenets of historiography.

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Dude, your full of shit.

I am telling you I am not a christian, and that I will look at wat you have to say with an open mind.

If you believe people are not ready for what you have to say, then why'd you make this post in the first place.

Now more than ever, you seem like a fraud.

Harsh, but I agree.

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Okay Mr know it all on this one I gotta agree - Jesus did not die on a cross he died on a torture stake which is in fact one beam of wood. Torture stake was misstranslated to the word Crux and from there all derivates of the idea of Christ dying on the cross arise. It is relatively simple to prove this (Although most folks don't wanna know) as all other contemporaries of the period died the same way due to a chronic wood shortage as recorded in Roman records of the period.

You don't say. Didn't know that. Not that it matters a whole lot for the religion, but interesting though.
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