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> you can't beleave in UFO's for f sake!
sriontoc
post May 17 2005, 10:28 AM
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sorry just had to vent this again...
for people who missed it before... YOU CAN NOT BELIEVE OR DISBELIEVE IN UFO'S!!
any questions?
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post May 17 2005, 10:28 AM
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post May 17 2005, 10:45 AM
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sure you can


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post May 17 2005, 10:59 AM
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Why can't you believe or dis-believe?
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post May 17 2005, 11:01 AM
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just because i believe in them , doesnt mean you do, and just because some one doesnt believe in them , doesnt mean i dont have to. beliefs are just ideas in the making.


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post May 17 2005, 11:17 AM
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One can believe anything smile.gif

I guess u must be meaning that U stands for unidentified?
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post May 17 2005, 11:20 AM
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I think that has a bit of sense...but I'm still confused.
Why you say that?
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post May 17 2005, 11:22 AM
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hes saying.. they are real.. i suppose its like saying..

i dont believe in the colour green. :alien:
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post May 17 2005, 11:45 AM
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He might be planning to point out that UFO means something unidentified. It's a silly, smart-ass point if he is because when someone says they believe in UFOs they are meaning UFOs as in alien ships or secret military craft.
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post May 17 2005, 01:03 PM
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right xander, that was what I thought at first too,
it IFO if its been dentified as UFO.....
My step dad says that all the time....
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whatever...we all beleive in what we want anyhow....

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post May 17 2005, 05:05 PM
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pretty much what you guys said, I wasn't trying to start a discussion I was just venting (which is why I put it in coffee shop) its just to say you believe in UFOs' is to say that you believe there are some things we don't know!? regardless of what people think UFO is, it stand for unidentified flying object, and by definition you can't belive or disbelieve in it.
it doesn't really matter that much its just one of my pet hates?
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post May 17 2005, 07:39 PM
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pretty much what you guys said, I wasn't trying to start a discussion I was just venting (which is why I put it in coffee shop) its just to say you believe in UFOs' is to say that you believe there are some things we don't know!? regardless of what people think UFO is, it stand for unidentified flying object, and by definition you can't belive or disbelieve in it.
it doesn't really matter that much its just one of my pet hates?


Err sorry Sriontoc but may I raise my hand in protest? LOL You see I can and do 'believe' in Ufo's. If there are 'unidentified' objects out there then yes I believe there are unidentified objects out there.....what's wrong with that?

It's exactly the same logic that says I 'believe' the space shuttle exists, I've never seen it, never heard it, never touched it but I believe it exists. Exactly the same way that I believe 'things' which are unidentified exist. Just coz I don't have a name for them don't mean they don't exist.

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post May 17 2005, 08:03 PM
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lol damn philosophers rolleyes.gif
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post May 17 2005, 11:11 PM
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sorry just had to vent this again...
for people who missed it before... YOU CAN NOT BELIEVE OR DISBELIEVE IN UFO'S!!
any questions?


Whats the point? Im thinking that most of the members here have some kind of belief in UFOs and aliens. Telling people here that there are no UFOs is like telling my kids that McDonalds doesnt have HappyMeals.
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post May 18 2005, 05:05 AM
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yes but ben how can you not believe? how could some one believe that there is nothing that we don't know? so why do people feel the to point out that they believe what we all believe?
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post May 18 2005, 06:03 AM
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What he's trying to say is that a UFO by definition is something in the sky you can't identify (Hey, a rhyme!)

It could be a bird, a plane, Superman, anything. It's a flying object that you don't know what it is. It doesn't have to be an alien spacecraft.
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post May 18 2005, 07:38 AM
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It's still a daft thing to say sriontoc, it's obvious someone isn't proclaiming their belief or doubt in something that they don't know. Like the way Xerox has come to mean photocopying, UFO has come to mean an alien or secret government craft.
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post May 18 2005, 08:18 AM
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I always use 'saucer' it saves confusion. I believe anything is possible so I don't disbelieve in either of the definitions of UFO.
:confused:Why is it not possible to believe in unidentified objects again?
It is indeed possible to believe something unidentified exists. wink.gif
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post May 18 2005, 10:48 AM
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There is too much video and photographic evidence to say UFOs aren't flying in our skies. I've always said the real question is whether 100% of them are military air craft or if some are military air craft and a small percentage are of ET origin. biggrin.gif
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post May 18 2005, 03:47 PM
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lol well I think SRI is trying to say that you can neither disbelieve nor believe in something which is by definition 'undefined'..or in this case 'unidentified'...for to believe or disbelieve in anything, you must have some conception of the thing which you believe or disbelieve...in other words, you may believe in alien spacecraft but you may not believe in UFOs...but that is like trying to give a definition to the word 'nothing'...you cant, though we have some conception of what nothing is...lol

It may seem silly but, really, I dont think it is...for it gives some insight into how and why we think and believe...
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post May 18 2005, 03:53 PM
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This world is full of sh
8t....why not belive in something that give us hope in any way of a completly destruction or a better tomorrow.
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