More strangeness:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4801928.stm

Neat link ...

There was a special on Discovery Channel a few nights ago. Very Interesting! It was about German Flying Saucers. It basically said Hitler had flying saucers based on a design by Andreas Epp. They had dosens of working models that were very fast and were going to be used in an invasion on the alias. But then, at the time the alias were gaining ground and Natzi Germany was going down. The Natzis had them destroyed so they wouldn't fall into enemy hands.
Thats when the Soviets and Americans tryed to snatch up all the German scientits and the begining of the cold war. Apperantly the Soviets got Epp and he built saucers for them based on the German design. The Americans were despiratly trying to gather there own Germans and were successful. They focused on missels and rockets. Then years later Epp came to the the US and started to build saucers for them based on the German/Soviet designs from memory.
It was a very Interesting piece, and they basically said all the saucers and triangles seen since the 40's are from this earth and are all based on the German saucers.
There was someone that said, what the US has now would blow your mind. They have vehicals that are 50 years in the future and most wouldn't be able to comprehend!
Made me kinda believe in what they were saying.

Sounds like a refined version of the Orion space vehicle ideal. This one used controlled fusion, while the Orion planners more or less wanted to detonate nuclear weapons to propel as spacecraft...

Here is a good link on how they say it works...
http://webfairy.org/missilegate/rfz/chapter3a.htm

Here is a REALLY cool link with lots of information and PICTURES!!!
What do you guys think?
http://thailandesl.chazzsongs.net/ufo_german.htm

I must say that you guys have opened up my eyes. You guys have solved the UFO mystery. All those UFOs in the 50s...60s that were doing Mach 10...20..30....sudden stops...90 degree turns...defying gravity...was really the flying pancake?

Mystery over guys. Everyone go home. You guys have solved it. :laugh:

Both projects were cancelled because of lack of interest and considered unworkable.



flying pancake
http://www.daveswarbirds.com/usplanes/aircraft/flapjack.htm


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avrocar_%28aircraft%29

I wonder where they got the 'flying saucer' idea

The flying pancake? Super pancake?

:alien: Lord of the pancakes.

Okay nevermind.

Forever, what you posted has nothing to do with what I posted. The Flying pancake is a prop drive aeroplane. The avro car was nothing more than an attempt at a hover craft.
The German saucers use a totally different technology to gain vertical flight and sustain horizontal flight.
Nazi Germany was far more advanced than any other nation on the planet at that time. Any why wouldn't they, they had no morals standing in there way, they tested on live humans with no regard whatsoever.
I guess its just a fantacy then. They were the ones to be the first to develop a jet plane and put it into service while everyone else was thinking how they can make there prop planes better. They were the first to develop a rocket, remember the V2, that is the technology that ICBM's were made from.
So why not saucers, is it that hard to believe? I guess its all BS, and all those scientits kicking around like Andreas Epp, Victor Schauberger, Rudolf Schriever, Habermohl, Miethe and Bellanzo are all phonies and the Soviets and Americans were just plain crazy trying to grab them up so they could build them fantacy machines that never existed.
Oh ya, the saucers of the time of the 40's, and 50's were said to have done about 2200 km/h. The neck breaking speeds you talk about are all the modern versions that were derived from that original German design.
Oh ya, you believe its little green men from Mars, thats a better explanation.

Avro car was a hovercraft!!!!!
Avro Project Y was there attempt to build a flying saucer!!!!
Check it out;
http://www.laesieworks.com/ifo/lib/AVRO-Omega.html

I'm with sparro on this, Avro was way behind. The entire budget for the avro car and the project y was a mere 10 mill, ( practically nothing by defence dept spending standards )

Hitler also had the first rocket powered airplanes..... No regard for human life, They had a super explosive mixture of fuel, and shed their landing gear on takeoff.
I am a pilot and I think,taking off ( knowing that you have to crash to get down )
I just cant imagine what they went thru.

PS avro proved to be about as uselfull as the Moeller Skycar!!
LAWN ORNAMENTS!

What the hell are British Rail doing? thats really bizarre! you dont think they have found alien technology somewhere do ya? he he

How can you explain ufos that have been seen to land and "alians" taking samples.
I'm not going home yet.

Great pictures, but the content was obviously translated into English. Hard to follow.

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Here is a Site that can give you More Info on what the Germans and Nazi's were up to. It even has a couple of Videos about their Flying Saucers, under the Multimedia section. The section, Secrets of the Third Reich, is a 3 part section that leads up to modern times. There is a Ton of Information, with all the links that this site has.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_ufoaleman.htm

Janet, I don't know about you, but if aliens landed and were talking samples, and people saw that as you claim, wouldn't it be all over the news?
I would like to believe in Aliens, and I am positive that there is intelligent life out there, but until someone can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that we have been visited, I think that the UFO's people are seeing are top secret black project.
I have seen a black triangle and an object doing weird stuff in the night sky, yes there are UFO's, but until the aliens show up on the 6 o'clock news its and unidentified flying object thats a really big secret that came from some countries military.

The flying pancake is horrible design while the Avrocar create the hovercraft ja,ja.

GREAT SITE, Thanks!!! It has So Much Info! Wow! Better than Jumping from site to site. Thanks again.

The avro car was nothing more than an attempt at a hover craft.

No. here is the actual Avro website. With video to boot. The Avro car was designed to be basically an flying saucer. But due to instability it was considered unworkable by both the Americans and Canadians, hence funding was cut and was eventually turned into a hovercraft. Read the actual Avro website and watch the video.

http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/mufono...ro/avrocar.html

So why not saucers, is it that hard to believe? I guess its all BS, and all those scientits kicking around like Andreas Epp, Victor Schauberger, Rudolf Schriever, Habermohl, Miethe and Bellanzo are all phonies and the Soviets and Americans were just plain crazy trying to grab them up so they could build them fantacy machines that never existed.

No, actually the above mentioned people were Nazis trying to make their former Third Reich look really really good. You probably forget that the Nazis were really really good at propoganda as well. Portraying themselves as the greatest at everything.


They were the first to develop a rocket

Another dose of misinformation. Actually, the first known rockets were develeped and used by an Indian prince fighting against the British in the 1800s. Maybe you heard of him Tipu Sultan?

Oh ya, the saucers of the time of the 40's, and 50's were said to have done about 2200 km/h. The neck breaking speeds you talk about are all the modern versions that were derived from that original German design.

Really? I hardly think so. If the Americans had in their possession in the 40s and 50s disks that could fly at 2200 km/h, how come they could not get the Avro saucer off the ground 20 years later in the 60s? After all they had these brilliant brains on their payroll.


Oh ya, you believe its little green men from Mars, thats a better explanation.

I base my explanations on major cases(Randlesham, Roswell, Ruwa Africa) I base my explanation on thousands of photos, videos, radar and personal sightings. I base my explanations on the testimony given by hundreds of former/current pilots, military officials, intelligence officials, sciencetists, lawyers, doctors, politicians, defence ministers and even the common person from all races, nationalities rich and poor. I base my explanations on the fact that these people are willing to testify in front of Congress under oath.

Do you have any of these? A small video maybe?

Or are you going to stick to the non-descript photos and life size models that show absolutely nothing relative to size.

Bottom line you have nothing.

Its funny people actually believe the testimony of Nazis(propaganda experts) over the work and testimony given by some reputable people who are willing to go to Congress under oath to testify.

You should read "Did 6 million really die?" you might believe that as well.

Some Interesting reading at that site. Nice find. Too bad not all of it can be verified.

Interesting were the German scientist Hermann Oberth, the father of the Modern Rocket and Von Brauns Mentor, says they were helped in developing the technology they were working on. When asked by who, he said "People From Other Worlds".

Interesting..but it still poses some questions...

How do these so called "German flying saucers" account for the cylinderical ufos?

Or the seemingly intelligently controlled probes the size of a basketball?

Hey...there are UFOs from the 50s...60s..70s..80s that seem to change shape. Can these craft do that as well?

Or the ones from 50s.and 60s...that seemingly break into a dozen different parts and then instantly join back together to form one spaceship?