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MikeW
post Mar 28 2006, 04:06 AM
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In my local news paper tonight.

"Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us."

- Bill Watterson (1958).
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post Mar 28 2006, 04:06 AM
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post Mar 28 2006, 05:05 AM
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Hi,

Well,

Some "Crop Circles" may be interpreted as a kind of "contacting"...


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post Mar 28 2006, 05:08 AM
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In my local news paper tonight.

"Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us."

- Bill Watterson (1958).


What if they have? you know the radio signal NASA picked up a few years ago....we havent heard ANYTHING about it since, what if they have found the source? :confused: :alien: biggrin.gif
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post Mar 28 2006, 05:46 AM
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What if they have? you know the radio signal NASA picked up a few years ago....we havent heard ANYTHING about it since, what if they have found the source? :confused: :alien: biggrin.gif



What signal from a few years ago?
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post Mar 28 2006, 05:51 AM
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Nasa picked up a stary radio signal from space a few years ago. but im sure nothing has been said since.....

did you not know chap?

it was a really big thing! a signal from another world??????? ooooooooohhhh. :alien:
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post Mar 28 2006, 05:59 AM
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I think this is it, but im having a bit of trouble trying to find it!

http://news.scotsman.com/scitech.cfm?id=1028302004

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap040307.html

you dont think the government have stolen all knowledge? biggrin.gif
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post Mar 28 2006, 06:28 AM
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Hi,


There are some things people rarely think about.

For example, the first “modern” contact with Outer Foreigners did not happen when Kenneth Ardnold saw 9 flying saucers, on June the 24th, 1947. That was the final happening of a series of preceding events.

What did happen prior to that are related to the discovery of electromagnetic waves, the Hertz’s waves.


In 1889, Tesla did emit really extremely powerful electromagnetic lightning, in Colorado Springs, as an experiment. The same year, Marconi did emit a “V”, in Morse code. In 1901, Marconi did emit an “S” in Morse code across the Atlantic ocean, as an experiment. In 1902, as an experiment also, Nathan Stubblefield did emit by a wire that was hanging in the water, at the back of his boat.

Then, in 1921, to his astonishment, Marconi’s “V” is received from space.
Later, in 1924, Marconi’s “S” is received from space. Todd and Jenkins even caught the emission on a photographic emulsion which series of points and indents draws a kind of face. Marconi is still emitting. In 1926, the united states do emit, in secrecy. Then, in 1946, the modern sightings begins with the first observations of Outer Foreigners in our atmosphere, in Scandinavia (URSS). In 1947, Bolton receives signals from space.


What is interesting in those are the dates.

Between 1889 (the “V” emission) and 1921 (receiving the “V”), there are 32 years.

Between 1901 (the “S” emission) and 1924 (receiving the “S”), there are 23 years.

Between 1924 (Marconi’s emission) and 1946 (beginning of the modern sightings), there are 22 years.

The shortest period of time is 22 years. Those signals travel at light speed.

If not a planet, someone’s probe might have caught the first signals. After thinking about it, they did decide to send it back. It took 11 years for the signal to reach the “receiver” and 11 years for the response to reach us.

There are two stars at this distance: Tau de Ceti and Epsilon d’Éridan.

The signal Bolton did receive came from Alpha du Cygne sector.

Either there had been someone listening there or a probe had been stationed in these areas.


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post Mar 28 2006, 06:35 AM
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That is very interesting Datajy! very interesting, i didnt realise how long it actually took for these signals to send n receive! and alot of things can happen between that time! plus we dont know what kind of planet the signal came from, if it was a planet at all!
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Hi,

Indeed.

I often wonder why SETI is not listening to those areas ?

Maybe they did and the results are conceiled (as usual).


Even, there might be nothing, if there was only a probe.


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post Mar 28 2006, 07:07 AM
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well maybe they are, but its all top secret stuff nowadays! do you mean the probe they sent out years and years ago, that the signal may have come from?
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post Mar 28 2006, 07:18 AM
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Hi,

Mr. T.;

The signals Marconi did send had been received by "something".
Either a foreigner's probe that had been placed there
or directly by receivers on a foreigner's planet (in that sector).

I do not think there is any outer foreigner's civilisation in those sectors.

Therefor, I think some outer foreigners did place a probe at that distance from our solar system (11 light years).

Maybe not to listen to us but to analyse other things.

Either they were expecting us to discover electromagnetic waves and they were waiting for that or the probe had been doing some other things and it did pick up our emissions by accident.


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post Mar 28 2006, 07:40 AM
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oh right! damn, thats a bit strange that our signals have been recieved, a bit mad i say! if something picked up our signals, then that something would have to be operational! you get me! what ever it was must have been some kind of alien probe!?!?!?!?!?! :confused:
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post Mar 28 2006, 11:44 AM
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I think this is it, but im having a bit of trouble trying to find it!

http://news.scotsman.com/scitech.cfm?id=1028302004

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap040307.html

you dont think the government have stolen all knowledge? biggrin.gif



I heard about that one I thought it was written off as a hoax that a hacker put into the data?
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post Mar 28 2006, 03:26 PM
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Hi,


(Mr.T.)

Well, not so strange if one consider that Outer Foreigners are not just playing with our NORAD radars.


If their prime interest is in gathering information, they should be very busy.

There might be a lot of activity, in and around our galaxy, that we can not have any idea about…


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post Mar 29 2006, 05:21 AM
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really Seth? i didnt know that! ive never heard it was a hoax and i hope it isnt!
unless it was real and they just tried to cover it up? y'know the usual stuff.

Data, your right, we have 0.000000% knowledge of space! apart form the fact that it is infinate, meaning, life does exsist out there! we must remember that we know nothing, so any alien race out there could be way more superior to us! that they probably have our message allready! but wether or not they can speak our language is the question! i bet they cant! he he. suckas!
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post Mar 29 2006, 05:50 AM
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Hi,


(Mr.T.)

What is interesting to know is that every electromagnetic emissions we send (Radio, TV, CB, etc.) escape in the space around our planet and goes away to the infinite, in every directions.

Anybody with a the simplest electromagnetic receiver can pick up these emissions.

So, I am not really proud of what they can see.


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post Mar 29 2006, 06:03 AM
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true, which also means that anything out there that wants to find "signals" of some type will pretty much always be pointed towards earth! ohmy.gif

If aliens wanted to find us, it wouldnt take much looking!

thats really not very clever is it? anything in space could find us! scary!
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post Mar 29 2006, 03:56 PM
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Hi,


(Mr.T.)

I know some people are scared (about Outer Foreigners).

I am not.

My greatest hope is to sit with one and have a conversation.



(Everyone has dreams)

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post Mar 29 2006, 04:30 PM
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true, which also means that anything out there that wants to find "signals" of some type will pretty much always be pointed towards earth! ohmy.gif

If aliens wanted to find us, it wouldnt take much looking!

thats really not very clever is it? anything in space could find us! scary!


I agree we are like a well lit christmas tree in the universe,

remember the old movie explorers ( thats how they found us ) it was our tv signals...

here is a thought if radio waves travel at the speed of light, dosent that mean that the farthest our noise has traveled is a little over 100 light years?
since we have been on the planet?

not very far on a galactic scale
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post Mar 29 2006, 04:48 PM
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Hi,


(Fighterace26)


If I may:

The first electromagnetic emissions took place in 1889, by Tesla and Marconi.

From then, the signals never stop traveling away at light speed.



The date of today ( 2006 ) minus the date we did start emitting ( -1889 )
equals ( 117 ).

So, it is been 117 years that we are emitting.

The first signal continues to travel in space at light speed.



The first signal did launch 117 years in the past.

Today, the first signal has traveled 117 years at light speed (light years).

The first signal is 117 light years away from us, today.

And it is still traveling away.


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