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 May 7 2006, 06:26 AM
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Here is a news article that states the MODs stance on UFOs is still the same as ever, not even the authors name or background is given, for all we know it may of been written by Big bird using felt tip pens and crayons.....And we put our faith in these persons to defend us....God help all of us :surrender
Mark Simpson BBC News
A confidential Ministry of Defence report on Unidentified Flying Objects has concluded that there is no proof of alien life forms. In spite of the secrecy surrounding the UFO study, it seems citizens of planet Earth have little to worry about. The report, which was completed in 2000 and stamped "Secret: UK Eyes Only", has been made public for the first time. Only a small number of copies were produced and the identity of the man who wrote it has been protected. His findings were only made public thanks to the Freedom of Information Act, after a request by Sheffield Hallam University academic Dr David Clarke. The four-year study - entitled Unidentified Aerial Phenomena in the UK - tackles the long-running question by UFO-spotters: "Is anyone out there?" The answer, it seems, is "no". Flying object The study gives rational explanations for UFO sightings The 400-page report puts it like this: "No evidence exists to suggest that the phenomena seen are hostile or under any type of control, other than that of natural physical forces." It adds: "There is no evidence that 'solid' objects exist which could cause a collision hazard." So if there are no such things as little green men in spaceships or flying saucers, why have so many people reported seeing them? Well, here is the science bit. "Evidence suggests that meteors and their well-known effects and, possibly some other less-known effects are responsible for some unidentified aerial phenomena," concludes the report. "Considerable evidence exists to support the thesis that the events are almost certainly attributable to physical, electrical and magnetic phenomena in the atmosphere, mesosphere and ionosphere. "They appear to originate due to more than one set of weather and electrically-charged conditions and are observed so infrequently as to make them unique to the majority of observers." Rational explanation People who claim to have had a "close encounter" are often difficult to persuade that they did not really see what they thought they saw. The report offers a possible medical explanation. "The close proximity of plasma related fields can adversely affect a vehicle or person," states the report. "Local fields of this type have been medically proven to cause responses in the temporal lobes of the human brain. These result in the observer sustaining (and later describing and retaining) his or her own vivid, but mainly incorrect, description of what is experienced." There is insufficient evidence to indicate the presence of any genuine unidentified aerial phenomena MoD There are, of course, other causes of UFOs - aeroplanes with particularly bright lights, stray odd-shaped balloons and strange flocks of birds, to name but a few. Yet, it will be difficult to convince everyone that there is a rational explanation for all mysterious movements in the sky. Some UFO-spotters believe governments will always cover up the truth about UFOs, because they are afraid of admitting that there is something beyond their control. It is not clear how much time and effort the MoD has spent looking at the skies in recent years, but it appears there are no plans for an in-depth UFO report like the one written in 2000. A MoD spokesperson said: "Both this study and the original "Flying Saucer Working Party" [already in public domain in the national Archives] concluded that there is insufficient evidence to indicate the presence of any genuine unidentified aerial phenomena. "It is unlikely that we would carry out any future studies unless such evidence were to emerge." http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4981720.stm |
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May 7 2006, 06:35 AM
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(apache.one) Here is a news article that states the MODs stance on UFOs is still the same as ever, not even the authors name or background is given, for all we know it may of been written by Big bird using felt tip pens and crayons.....And we put our faith in these persons to defend us....God help all of us :surrender
Typically when ever secret UFO research is released and doesn't contain what the believers covert, the government organization doing what they are asked to do; release their files, are distained. |
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May 7 2006, 06:56 AM
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I know it's important to protect the person(s) who wrote this as to not be physically attacked, but on the flip side of the coin, You could easily argue, that ,its very convenient for them to say "This person came to this conclusion.. yada yada".
Not attacking you apache, thanks for posting this. But this doesnt meant jack to me or anyone else. It's just one persons opinion. I can't prove God exists but thats because he isnt really apart of the physical world. We are limited to knowing what is going on around us. If science can't prove it, it doesnt exist. The moon was a flat disc in space until someone proved it wasnt by inventing a telescope and being able to see it was sphere in shape. Earth is flat. Prove it isnt. go to "Flat earth society" and see how they put up a good fight. 
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May 7 2006, 09:55 AM
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This is no different then the studies saying ufos are real.
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May 7 2006, 02:34 PM
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060507/sc_nm/britain_ufos_dc
I think this is either disinfo or complete stupidity on behalf of the MOD. They're in denial. UFOs (solid metallic objects) have been tracked on radar at speeds of 20,000 mph. NOT plasma balls. :laugh: Althought "some" UFO sightings could be some of what they've described, I highly doubt all UFOs are natural phenemona. |
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May 7 2006, 03:37 PM
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I just emailed the MOD explaining my disgust in their latest UFO report. You can do the same here:
http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/ContactUs/ Unlike the United States DOD, the British MOD usually respond to emails!
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May 9 2006, 06:23 PM
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And what kind of study is that! they made their own conclusion this is why they sux.
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May 10 2006, 12:28 AM
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My local radio station talked about this report this morning, and asked listeners to call in with any UFO encounters they had had. The stories were impressive! How did this guy come to the conclusion that everyone is seeing natural phenomena? Whether or not they are natural, they're impossible to study in controlled conditions, and therefore, I'd have thought, it'd be impossible to come to any firm conclusions as to what they really are.
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May 10 2006, 07:25 PM
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"Evidence suggests that meteors and their well-known effects and, possibly some other less-known effects are responsible for some unidentified aerial phenomena," concludes the report.
KEY WORD:"some" unidentified aerial phenomena |
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May 10 2006, 11:25 PM
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Boy, that was easy, eh?
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May 10 2006, 11:51 PM
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(tjwes12) "Evidence suggests that meteors and their well-known effects and, possibly some other less-known effects are responsible for some unidentified aerial phenomena," concludes the report.
KEY WORD:"some" unidentified aerial phenomena You'd think that with all the scientific data on meteors that all their effects are well known, there shouldn't be any less-known effects, and if there are why isnt' the report more specific on either one. Meaning list all the well-known effects that contribute to the UFO sightings, and list all the less-known effects so that people like me who have objects in the sky that fly in one direction and change course in split seconds can have a concrete explanation as to why these so called "meteors" can maneuver the way they do. :headscrat |
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May 11 2006, 02:59 AM
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(tjwes12) "Evidence suggests that meteors and their well-known effects and, possibly some other less-known effects are responsible for some unidentified aerial phenomena," concludes the report.
KEY WORD:"some" unidentified aerial phenomena Just because not every alleged "sighting" or aerial activity can be explained doesn't mean we believe that aliens are visiting the planet to decorate the sky with their pretty lights. In fact, if every single instance of unidentified aerial phenomena couldn't be explained, there's still no reason to believe in unreasonable extremes such as alien visitation. |
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May 11 2006, 07:00 PM
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Those studies are part of a big conspiration they are always going to hide the true and in avery UFo crash they are going to plant beatiful flowers.
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May 11 2006, 07:38 PM
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LOL, that story is too cute to be true:
"Pluto dont exist cause I can't see it" :tease: Let’s take it way back during the 1500s, when people gave "rational explanations" about the earth they didn't understand about. Galileo was ridiculed and thrown into jail when he claimed that the earth was round. The "rational explanation" back then was the earth was round because they couldn’t see the curvature of the earth when they observed the landscape around them. Ok maybe that wasn't a great analogy, but here’s more: Discrediting evidence without fully analyzing it is simply being stupid, IMO. I am positive that these so called “researchers” haven’t even taken the time to look at 1% of the evidence put in front of their little brown noses. Or maybe they are trying to do this to throw a little bit of “disinformation” about. The latter is quite possible. The analysis that these researchers gave has no scientific basis whatsoever, only a simple argument that is replicated in almost every skeptic/believer thread posted out there today. |
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May 11 2006, 08:10 PM
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Its easy to call anything in the air as unusual atmospheric activity or miidentifications. But what about the cases where people have had actual encounters with beings and pilots? Betty and Barney Hill? Randlesham? They can hardly be considered meteors or comets.
Too many good sightings by qualified people like pilots. |
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May 12 2006, 02:27 AM
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(Forever) Its easy to call anything in the air as unusual atmospheric activity or miidentifications. But what about the cases where people have had actual encounters with beings and pilots? Betty and Barney Hill? Randlesham? They can hardly be considered meteors or comets.
Too many good sightings by qualified people like pilots. "Contact"/abduction cases are their own erratic and embarassing genre of observation. |
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May 20 2006, 04:09 PM
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May 20 2006, 04:54 PM
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another 'brainwash' attempt by the gouvernment. How much do they expect us to believe?
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May 20 2006, 05:50 PM
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I think this study was put out for all to see because of the chance that the guy from the UK who broke into the computers a Nasa is going to be brought here and put on trial. If they do that the files and things he looked at will have to be brought into court and also given to his Lawyer.
We had a talk about this a while back and even said that we thought there would be some sort of disinformation to try to counter what he may say. I cannot remember his Name but I can look it up later. But in it's self the report would be really funny if it was not so sad, there have been to many people that have come forward, from Astronauts to Pilots that cannot be discredited for this to mean anything. We have had many reports from the U.S Air Force that went aginst what there last report was. On a local news cast here in NC the reporter laughed at the report and stated that you would think after all this time they could have come up with something new and not so lame, and that there where to many people that are coming forth on this to think it is not real, and then they put up a short film of a ufo taken by another News group with a UFO floating in plain sight in what looked like a large town. It was not fuzzy or to far away, It was crisp and clear. And that tells me there are good films out there. They also played the tape recordings of the UFO incounter by the Police in Ind. And that tape is a very good one. You could hear the Officer telling about the UFO and its shape what was on it, all of the above, even said and showed the tape of a Mercury 8 Pilot I think he said 8, his shot into orbit. And he told of watching a UFO fly over his base 10 years before, and land out by the runway , he told of a crew that was filming and how they took off and filmed it as they walked to the craft in till it took off and raised it landing gear and zoomed off at a really high speed, and then told about the government spooks that came the next day and took the film. Yea the report is just right, it makes even bigger fools of them and makes it easy to show how off base they really are. So even now there are people in the news who are starting to report things and not making fun of the people who have come forward. There have been to many people see these things at close range for them to be able to discredit the sightings. But I really do think that both governments are worried about how to handle this, as they have lied to the world for so long there is no way they are going to get away with it. |
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May 21 2006, 03:58 AM
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Even UFO sceptics are saying that the Condign Report is dodgy and worthless...
It is based on "silly science", mind-altering energy plasmas from meteor dust, oh please. It is a mixture of fantasy and crap. |
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