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post May 7 2006, 12:24 PM
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/clic...ine/4977134.stm

It talks about how a hacker got into NASA and saw a bunch of unusual things like edited images, strange documents, and a bunch of other things. It's interesting to read what he allegedly found.
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post May 7 2006, 12:24 PM
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post May 7 2006, 12:44 PM
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Can't seem to get the link to work, is this about the guy Gary McKinnon ???
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post May 7 2006, 12:55 PM
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For those of you that can't see the link: (this is copied verbatim from the site)

Hacker fears 'UFO cover-up'
EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW

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In 2002, Gary McKinnon was arrested by the UK's national high-tech crime unit, after being accused of hacking into Nasa and the US military computer networks.
He says he spent two years looking for photographic evidence of alien spacecraft and advanced power technology.

America now wants to put him on trial, and if tried there he could face 60 years behind bars.

Banned from using the internet, Gary spoke to Click presenter Spencer Kelly to tell his side of the story, ahead of his extradition hearing on Wednesday, 10 May. You can read what he had to say here.
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Spencer Kelly: Here's your list of charges: you hacked into the Army, the Navy, the Air Force, the Department of Defense, and Nasa, amongst other things. Why?

Gary McKinnon: I was in search of suppressed technology, laughingly referred to as UFO technology. I think it's the biggest kept secret in the world because of its comic value, but it's a very important thing.

Old-age pensioners can't pay their fuel bills, countries are invaded to award oil contracts to the West, and meanwhile secretive parts of the secret government are sitting on suppressed technology for free energy.

SK: How did you go about trying to find the stuff you were looking for in Nasa, in the Department of Defense?

GM: Unlike the press would have you believe, it wasn't very clever. I searched for blank passwords, I wrote a tiny Perl script that tied together other people's programs that search for blank passwords, so you could scan 65,000 machines in just over eight minutes.

SK: So you're saying that you found computers which had a high-ranking status, administrator status, which hadn't had their passwords set - they were still set to default?

GM: Yes, precisely.

SK: Were you the only hacker to make it past the slightly lower-than-expected lines of defence?

GM: Yes, exactly, there were no lines of defence. There was a permanent tenancy of foreign hackers. You could run a command when you were on the machine that showed connections from all over the world, check the IP address to see if it was another military base or whatever, and it wasn't.

The General Accounting Office in America has again published another damning report saying that federal security is very, very poor.

SK: Over what kind of period were you hacking into these computers? Was it a one-time only, or for the course of a week?

A bird or a plane?... Gary was not able to get a picture of what he saw
GM: Oh no, it was a couple of years.

SK: And you went unnoticed for a couple of years?

GM: Oh yes. I used to be careful about the hours.

SK: So you would log on in the middle of the night, say?

GM: Yes, I'd always be juggling different time zones. Doing it at night time there's hopefully not many people around. But there was one occasion when a network engineer saw me and actually questioned me and we actually talked to each other via WordPad, which was very, very strange.

SK: So what did he say? And what did you say?

GM: He said "What are you doing?" which was a bit shocking. I told him I was from Military Computer Security, which he fully believed.

SK: Did you find what you were looking for?

GM: Yes.

SK: Tell us about it.

GM: There was a group called the Disclosure Project. They published a book which had 400 expert witnesses ranging from civilian air traffic controllers, through military radar operators, right up to the chaps who were responsible for whether or not to launch nuclear missiles.

They are some very credible, relied upon people, all saying yes, there is UFO technology, there's anti-gravity, there's free energy, and it's extra-terrestrial in origin, and we've captured spacecraft and reverse-engineered it.

SK: What did you find inside Nasa?

GM: One of these people was a Nasa photographic expert, and she said that in building eight of Johnson Space Centre they regularly airbrushed out images of UFOs from the high-resolution satellite imaging. What she said was there was there: there were folders called "filtered" and "unfiltered", "processed" and "raw", something like that.

I got one picture out of the folder, and bearing in mind this is a 56k dial-up, so a very slow internet connection, in dial-up days, using the remote control programme I turned the colour down to 4bit colour and the screen resolution really, really low, and even then the picture was still juddering as it came onto the screen.

But what came on to the screen was amazing. It was a culmination of all my efforts. It was a picture of something that definitely wasn't man-made.

It was above the Earth's hemisphere. It kind of looked like a satellite. It was cigar-shaped and had geodesic domes above, below, to the left, the right and both ends of it, and although it was a low-resolution picture it was very close up.

This thing was hanging in space, the earth's hemisphere visible below it, and no rivets, no seams, none of the stuff associated with normal man-made manufacturing.

SK: Is it possible this is an artist's impression?

GM: I don't know... For me, it was more than a coincidence. This woman has said: "This is what happens, in this building, in this space centre". I went into that building, that space centre, and saw exactly that.

SK: Do you have a copy of this? It came down to your machine.

GM: No, the graphical remote viewer works frame by frame. It's a Java application, so there's nothing to save on your hard drive, or at least if it is, only one frame at a time.

SK: So did you get the one frame?

GM: No.

SK: What happened?

GM: Once I was cut off, my picture just disappeared.

SK: You were actually cut off the time you were downloading the picture?

GM: Yes, I saw the guy's hand move across.

SK: You acknowledge that what you did was against the law, it was wrong, don't you?

GM: Unauthorised access is against the law and it is wrong.

SK: What do you think is a suitable punishment for someone who did what you did?

GM: Firstly, because of what I was looking for, I think I was morally correct. Even though I regret it now, I think the free energy technology should be publicly available.

I want to be tried in my own country, under the Computer Misuse Act, and I want evidence brought forward, or at least want the Americans to have to provide evidence in order to extradite me, because I know there is no evidence of damage.
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post May 7 2006, 02:06 PM
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i have no doubt that NASA is hiding the truth!!! I was on this site a few weeks ago, i saved it on my favorites, http://www.unseen.net.tc/nasa_unseen.htm its shows very good videos that i hadnt found before. Clearly there's something strange out there man, and NASA is hiding the truth, read that site, its a really good site that shows all the unseen really.
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post May 7 2006, 07:30 PM
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The link works for me, but thanks a lot Swissv2 for posting the article anyway.

Anyway, although he doesn't seem to have much evidence to support himself, I completely believe that what he said was true, especially since he got in to NASA's computers which weren't even secure. This was on the news a few months ago and they had undercover people go into the various nuclear research areas at different colleges around the USA. Even though they were going to expensive and potentially lethal nuclear reactors, they were let right in and were even allowed to take pictures.

Thats pretty much why I believe this dude, because like the reactors, I'm pretty sure that we have a false sense of security about a lot of things, like NASA.
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post May 9 2006, 05:21 PM
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I have mixed feelings on this one, the problem is although I agree with what he says in principle re free power and technology, we don't know the whole story. Much happens in our governments that we are not aware of, some of it for very good reasons. Without fully understanding how any technology came into the governments possesion, what deals or conditions may have been imposed on us by ET if any. And a host of other stuff. It may be that if he did get a hold of technology it may have far more implications than any of us are aware of. Some stuff is covered up for political reasons, $$$$, religious. But other stuff is covered up because its just too bloody dangerous to let it become common knowledge. What if in his Hacking he inadvertantly let somone with much less noble intentions than him, get access to stuff we would really rather not fall into "ENEMY" if that be terrorist or other hands.
It is a little nieve to say that he was just looking for evidence of UFO's etc.

And besides, we all seem to want ET to fess up and say here i am, lets cure cancer, poverty, war etc. What if old ET sees us as just a bunch of bugs swarming on a little blue planet, and has chosen not to step on us with a big ET boot for whatever reason. Forcing disclosure may be the catalyst to something far worse for mankind. Personally, i would love it if we could live in a "Star Trek" type world where the good guys always win and right always provails. But remeber the episode with "species 8472" Are we really ready to take on an ET of that magnitude. I think we need to tread carefully
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post May 9 2006, 06:33 PM
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If you want to convince me..provide something more than a conversation transcript plz..ty rolleyes.gif
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post May 10 2006, 08:57 AM
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Should be interesting to see what he testifies, and if what he testifies is even allowed out to the public without being manipulated. You know damn well that if he's facing years in jail he's going to spill the beans about what he found. I heard that he went on a NASA computer and found evidence that NASA edits UFOs out of satellite photos...

GO HERE:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/05/10...r.ap/index.html

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post May 10 2006, 09:34 AM
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As much as I might regret saying it: good for him!

If he sticks to his guns, then it will spark some very interesting debate on the issue of a govt. secrecy, and since he has claimed that he saw evidence that could suggest a coverup - the more media coverage the better! ohmy.gif
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post May 10 2006, 10:04 AM
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060510/ap_on_...itain_us_hacker

big news on the internet today....
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post May 10 2006, 10:13 AM
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Just heard it on CNN International news at 12:12pm. They just ran a story on it.
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post May 10 2006, 10:56 AM
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Guys, I read this before. I think i read it on here. Is this a Hoax? I remember this guy from a year ago.

Someone should try and find the thread. If it isnt, The US should at best talk to him and make sure he's not connected then they should thank him for showing our weakness then they should let him go with a warning.

Of course, he was breaking into military computers too? F*** sakes, Someone needs to secure our military networks.

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Just heard it on CNN International news at 12:12pm. They just ran a story on it.



Welp, I guess its true then. of course, CNN candy coats stories. I wonder how Alex Jones will react. He's always making fun of UFO stuff. Maybe he will be a more open minded Christian.

Of course, the powers that be, might say he's just using that as a story. He isnt real solid on his comments. could it be he works with a group with different intentions?
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post May 10 2006, 04:48 PM
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OK, postcount 2 and all, but umm... Im not seeing the story in CNN.com
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post May 10 2006, 06:45 PM
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it was in the technology section all day long... don't know if it's still listed there
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post May 10 2006, 08:50 PM
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wow, this hacker is a complete noob, he is using dial-up and couldn't take a screen shot of the picture he was looking at, couldn't convert a picture file different from .jpg, come on give me a break i can do that better, he said that he used program like at logmein.com or something, that uses java to connect to other computer, that's the nubiest thing u can ever do... peple on that comp can see the cursor move and everything he does, wow, man just wow, u can't make it unnoticable, i mean like wtf....
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post May 11 2006, 01:05 AM
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post May 11 2006, 02:08 AM
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Remember we only have his word that says he didn't do any damage, prison is full of people who "didn't do it". And if he didn't actually do any damage, how would the government know his intentions. He would not be distinguishable from a terrorist looking from the inside would he. So you can't blame the response. If i randomly picked one of the forum members here and hacked into your computer at home, started poking around in your business. You would be just a little peeved i bet. I doubt if you would be all that interested in my defence being " I was not going to do any harm "
There is ways and means of doing things i think. I recon the old adage of "do the crime, do the time" applies here. Not sure he will get a fair trial in the US though, Perhaps there should be some interneational laws here for just this kind of thing. But then it was US laws he broke....
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post May 11 2006, 03:17 AM
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Remember we only have his word that says he didn't do any damage, prison is full of people who "didn't do it". And if he didn't actually do any damage, how would the government know his intentions. He would not be distinguishable from a terrorist looking from the inside would he. So you can't blame the response. If i randomly picked one of the forum members here and hacked into your computer at home, started poking around in your business. You would be just a little peeved i bet. I doubt if you would be all that interested in my defence being " I was not going to do any harm "
There is ways and means of doing things i think. I recon the old adage of "do the crime, do the time" applies here. Not sure he will get a fair trial in the US though, Perhaps there should be some interneational laws here for just this kind of thing. But then it was US laws he broke....
I have to agree with you Dundee, but he could be dealt with by British law......under sections (1) and (2) of the computer misuse act 1990 (c18)..... http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1990/Ukpga_19900018_en_1.htm IMHO.....It looks like he is looking at a conviction.
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post May 11 2006, 06:12 AM
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I have to agree with you Dundee, but he could be dealt with by British law......under sections (1) and (2) of the computer misuse act 1990 (c18)..... http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1990/Ukpga_19900018_en_1.htm IMHO.....It looks like he is looking at a conviction.


Yeah its a tough call isnt it. On one hand its easy to see why he should be trialed under US law, on the other hand UK law would be fine. Recently in Bali as the world all saw was an example of being tried by the locals. The Chapell Corby ordeal was a tough one. People at that time were all asking each other here in OZ, what do you recon, is she guilty. But for me it wasnt about guilty or innocent. It was abut receiving a fair trial. I dont feel she go one. You have to wonder if this bloke will get a fair trial in the US. They seem to be gunning for him. But then he did break their Law. I am glad its not me making the decisions thats for sure.
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