There are some really nice people here, and then there's some not-so-nice, which is a shame cos I don't feel 'safe' here at all. I'm not up for dealing with people I can't fathom or trust - frankly they scare the crap out of me. So I guess it's 'goodbye', to anyone who knows me here at all. I haven't posted much, but I've lurked and followed your stories - good luck to you all. This forum has certainly been an eye opener at the very least.

Lucy, Lucy, Lucy - I can understand you not feeling 'safe' - even though I say so myself - there's some pretty fucked up people roaming this forum - fact is there's nothing we can do about it until we get the ammo - we don't Mod with our eyes closed though - we take a real pride in being able to 'weed out' the deceivers, the loonies, the psycho's - in trying to be 'one step ahead' of them - I watched you being 'suckered' by him this morning and didn't like it - but unless I have proof there's nothing I can do - fortunately I have enough evidence to support the action now taken....you simply hastened the inevitable, however at the level it now stands I couldn't justify asking the Police for an enquiry - that could have been a distinct possibility had you just let Dingo and I run with it.....wish you'd re-consider.

Ben

aw Lucy...dont go...I know things get tiresome and on edge around here...we tend to share alot of personal stuff...maybe we shouldnt but sometimes, its easier to share such things in cyber land than in real life, you know what I mean? Perhaps you could just respond to the non-personal subjects? I dont know. I just wish you wouldnt leave.

Lucy, you have to be the nicest poster I've seen and met in my tenure here. You never go off half-cocked, you never become angry, you never try to force anything on others, and you always have a kind word to share. I agree, this has been a disgusting experiance, one that you share no blame for in anyway, and I can understand if you want to leave for a while, but I do so hope you return.

Oh please don't go Lucy.
I just read the other thread. How sick.

Just remember that "real life" is like this, too. People lead double lives all the time.
Most people don't though. Most people are pretty much ok.
So this forum is going to be sort of a microcosm, with people from all the groups popping up periodically. Even the bad ones.
Just like real life.

Know that we're united with you in your anger and disgust.

Once again, how sick.

Lucy,

Please reconsider, don't leave.

I have not been here long, but I know you are a good person from reading some of your posts.

You are genuine, and have a big heart.

I understand if you take some time off, but don't make it permanent.

Lucy, please reconsider. You seem as though you have a gentle soul and it would sad to see you go. I'm not yet up to speed on what's happened but if there are psychos in this forum then we need good people all the more.

One of the reasons I joined this forum was because it seem like a mature and for the most part friendly place unlike so many others out there. It's a shame that there are people out there who take advantage of kind hearted individuals.

Whatever you decide has to be what you feel is best for you. God Bless and Take Care.

Okay, can someone fill me in on exactly what has happened here? I read the links Ben gave, but I'm still not getting it.

And I hope I'm not one of those "fucked up" people Ben referred to.

Mods, you might want to look into finding a way to block Tor or Privoxy users. Privoxy and Tor are programs that change your IP address every so often. I admit I've used it to spam forums (Not this one. NEVER this one. I like this one way too much.) Mr. T could use it to come back, and we wouldn't be able to know it was him.

Um, how could anyone feel completely "safe" on the internet?? Just ignore whatever's bothering you, there's a bunch of creeps everywhere, you can't hide from 'em.
Anywho.. don't go. I'm sure people would miss ya here.

I'm sorry your leaving but plz do reconsider.

I know there are tons of weird hoo-doo, voo-doo nutters out there who are way over the norm. I find joy and happiness everyday when posting cause I know there are zillions of 1s and 0s between me and the posters here. To get tied up in the decietful digi-relm is of course horriable but at the same time it more power to you. They will gain nothing but self-inverted joyness that is only limited to themselvs.

There are good people out there and they do give a shit. You should use this experience as a mental marker for times to come.

peace,
Some Coloradian who gives a shit and hates sour moments

hi lucy .
dont leave he tricked me to and i still cant believe it you think you know someone and they shit on you like that . i spent sometime listening to his abduction which i now know was a load of shit also if you leave people like that win f..k him and dont go .

I’ve always thought that if I ever made a ‘goodbye post’, I’d refrain from any ‘encore’ posting cos it sort of defeats the purpose of saying goodbye in the first place, but I couldn’t leave without saying ‘thank you’ for the many kind and encouraging words people have offered on this thread. I’m aware that I’m a sporadic poster at best, and usually don’t offer a contribution to a thread either because I know nothing about a topic and any comment I made would be pretty inane for the sake of input, or because I have a short attention span and a lot of the time don’t make it to the end of long posts or threads, and therefore really can’t add to the conversation because I haven’t got the whole picture. Occasionally I feel I can add something of value, and then I pipe up.

So it is rare that I jump in and post, which makes me feel all the more stupid – one of the few threads I decide to contribute to and I’m duped. I had my doubts about Twister when I saw that photo too – she didn’t look 15 but then again, so many girls these days are trying to grow up too quickly and look older, so I thought perhaps it was her, or perhaps the real ‘Twister’ considered herself unattractive and so found a cute model’s photo and submitted that instead. I wasn’t going to reply to ‘her’ (it? Lol), as I felt ‘she’ was attention seeking, or was fake, but then I thought on it, and decided that if ‘she’ were genuine, and in need of some advice, she would appreciate someone at least taking an interest, and ignoring someone who may just be genuine and needed to talk was a gamble. As there were no replies I felt sorry for ‘her’, and I guess that is why I’m so mad at Mr T – because my actions were all based on compassion, and all the time he was probably laughing at me, or feeling pretty smug at his ‘cleverness’ at deceiving me. Rube, you’re right – I do feel ‘violated’, because I revealed a little piece of the ‘inner me’ to someone who tricked it out of me.

Ben says I need a crash course in anti-naivety, but giving people the benefit of the doubt is an inherent part of me and I don’t think it can be changed. I know this is only the internet, but some people can really get under your skin, KWIM? So I think it’s best if I just keep out of situations which leave me vulnerable to dodgy people, and as this subject attracts a large number of ill-intentioned nutters, it’s probably best if I don’t post here anymore. Unfortunately it means missing out on talking to all you nice people, but I’ll look in occasionally to see how you’re all going.

Finally, I want to apologise to Ben for jumping the gun and letting him down and jeopardising his integrity/reputation as a moderator. Like I said, I don’t often read entire paragraphs, and I’m afraid I missed the bit where he said ‘between you and me’ and just jumped to the part ‘beware of Sister Twister – she’s not who she seems’, and I just saw red. I appreciate him trying to warn me, however scantily, but I know that my actions have made him worry that folks will think he blabs secret forum business to me, when in actual fact he takes his moderator duties very seriously, and you couldn’t find a more dedicated or responsible moderator if you tried. I have to apologise to Dingo too, because my actions caused Dingo and Ben many hours of work collating the proof they have been slowly building up so they could justify the accusation and banning. So, my apologies Dingo and Ben – I should have kept my big trap shut and left it up to the two of you because you obviously know what you’re doing ‘behind the scenes’ and I ruined things to some extent.

Anyway, I’ve gotten carried away again and written an epic, when in actual fact, what I really wanted to say was ‘thank you’, and ‘sorry’, and maybe 'see you around some time'.

Lucy...please don't go. Please.
Just take a break and reflect and then come back.


And it shouldn't be changed.
When alarm bells are going off, but you're still unsure of what to do, and it's a relatively safe thing like the internet (as in, no one knows where you live, exactly)...
Then you make a choice.
Sometimes you're glad you gave the benefit of the doubt, sometimes you get bit.
When you've made a conscious decision to try to be a good person, that's the way it goes sometimes.
It hurts like hell, but at least you're still someone you can live with (coz you know, wherever you go, you're still there.)

I know this is extremely painful...and no doubt you need some time to process this, but after the shock passes, ask yourself the question:
Is one encounter with one freakaziod really worth losing all of the other, happy, positive encounters we have here?
I mean, this is where you met Ben and Mary. Those two shining souls alone outshine any dark gunk lurking in the corners.
And there are many more friendships just waiting to develop.
Over the course of my however many thousands of posts I have now, there are all these people I've met, that just the thought of makes me smile.
All these bright little points of light that bring warmth to me in "the real world".
Don't let one freak ruin that for you.

I just hope you reconsider.

There is no need to apologise Lucy - I think everyone understands why you did what you did and are doing what you are doing. Look the only 'protection' you will have anywhere on the internet (and yes I mean the whole damned internet) is where someone has the authority to 'look behind the scenes' at what's going on - I don't mind saying this myself - at this forum you have Mods who will work tirelessly to that end - we're not here to cover our own arses - we're not here to 'pontificate' and strut around throwing our status or authority about - we're here to PROTECT every single decent member of this forum - I don't think there is any safer place to be on the internet even though it is overrun at times by loonies - why? Because we will discover the vast majority of them - of course we can't and don't get it right all the time - but our success rate I would argue is comparable with ANYWHERE on the internet.

Change yer mind lol.

Ben

hun, you don’t have to change your personality on these forums if you don’t want to. Be yourself! we love you for that.

The nice thing about a forum is you can choose to respond or not. Realize that not all people on these forums act the same, and you will get the occasional "un-insightful" response, but there are plenty of people who enjoy your company and will support you.

Be strong!

Best is to practice taking all responses with a grain of salt, sometimes people type before they think (I do that too, from time to time :devil: ). You have a very level headed and supportive moderators here so that is one of the things why I like this forum!

Angry you are far from "fucked" and it is not you. I will write you a private post and explain. Don't worry.

Lucy I needed some time to respond. I was thinking of doing it privately but I said nah do it here because others need to read it. You have a right to be afraid and sort of feel disgusted and sick to your stomach.

Someone with a very serious mental illness manifested his disease on these posts and he taunted you as well.

So just because its words doesn't mean it doesn't hurt of frighten or genuinely sadden you.

All I can say is you are a positive soul and you can't let the acts of a depraved person limit where you travel and who you talk to.

Hey Lucy in my work what really hurts us is we second guess ourselves as to all the people we think back at and now say -is there more I could have done..or maybe I should have believed what the person said..maybe it was true....I still have many sleepless nights second guessing work I have done and wondering man did I blow it and because of that did someone get abused or hurt?

When you work with abusers and perverts after awhile you get angry then you sort of dettach to survive. Now and then they still get under your skin.

This guy got under my skin good too because he pretended to be an abused teenager. Sure its loathsome. But you are o.k. He hasn't changed your faith in people and your natural inclination to be kind and compassionate to people.

So don't you worry. Take some time to feel sad or disgusted or angry or what-ever. But don't let this depraved fool dictate what you do.

Anyways enuff from Mr.Hyper. Later! :shrug: [phew]

... same with me, but after these couple of years, I'm still here. I think you'll eventually start posting again. Yup. You'll miss it.

Yeah man. The thing that really got me not posting here as often as I used to was the invasion of n00bs with poor spelling and grammar who got like 3000 posts in two months.

Eye no wot ya meen,,,...Thank Dog most ov them r gone now.

Ben