OK fellas. When I looked at it I realized it wasnt a triangle straight away. Then I thought it was a V-shaped craft. Then my brain switched on after a hard day working and I realized... it was a plane with landinglights on.




These are indeed normal locations on a place for landinglights.





Im sorry dudes. Its a plane.

Are you nuts? I take that back. You are nuts.

Can't you see the distinct dark black triangle shape body of the craft? The picture was taken from the ground so it's a picture of the under-side belly of the craft. A regular 747 wouldn't look like that! :laugh:

Geeeeez

You mean the distinctive triangular shape caused by the light artefact?



Here you have the same picture without the light-tricks. If it was a high resolution pic you would have seen it clearly: its not a triangle. That dark smeer is not a piece of a craft it is only an anomaly.

not a plane, sorry

But this is what I get when I correct the color and add at touch of fill in flash. It looks like a triangle that is rotating because the center light stays circular while the outer lights blur or streak. Also there looks like a dull orb following but that could be an effect caused by the camera, tape, or film. You can enlarge the photo by clicking on the bottom right corner (for those who don't know). This is No Plane!!! Where is the rest of it?

Cut off from the picture! It is not unusual for some plane lights to remain unnoticed from the ground, just look up at the sky. You can see planes of which only one winglights remains visible, even though the other is surely on.

Its is a plane people, a plane that is taking a turn, but a plane nonetheless.

Too bad guyz, but it seems rather unlikely for alienz to design spacecrafts with lights exactly in the same place as our passenger airliners. Taking into account that you can see wings, which are useless in space, and another light outside the supposed "triangle" shape located exactly where a tail-light would be, I would say it is a plane.

BS!!! And who says it's Alien??? Look at the Image I posted enlarged. Look how the structure curves around the outer light. Not very airplane like at all. Get your eyes checked nothing is cut off. At the top light the object clearly ends. Enlarge and Look Closer.

I don't know about the picture, but I will say that it (and the video in the other thread) are a spittin' image of what I saw just last May. What I saw was definitely not a passenger jet of any sort (for one thing, those are very small and do not have a route directly over my humble abode). It was black with a set of four large lights (in a pattern as seen in both the video and photo) and a few smaller lights. It was most definitely triangular, without any distinct wings or the shape of the B-2s that sometimes fly here. The latter also do not possess such lights.

I can't say that it was silent or not because of the fighters tailing it (loudly), but there was a distinct harmonic rumble that the fighters at the air force base do not cause. Like I said, though, I can't say it's alien -- it looked human-manufactured, but no less impressive than any other aircraft I've seen. It was also ridiculously fast, leaving the Nighthawks eating its vapour trail (if there was one).

I keep waiting with baited breath for it to happen again. I didn't have a digicam at the time, not that it would have helped. But here's what I said to a friend whilst online:

Mon May 22

[23:13] Orbyss: Holy f--k BRB
[23:13] Drin: D: what
[23:13] Orbyss: Oh my god
[23:14] Drin: what
[23:15] Orbyss: Well that was what I'd call a 'UFO'
[23:16] Drin: D:
[23:16] Orbyss: Even Marc came racing out of the shower
[23:16] Orbyss: Holy f--k
[23:16] Orbyss: That was chilling
[23:16] Orbyss: It wasn't like anything I've seen before, I know that
[23:17] Drin: naked?
[23:17] Orbyss: Yeah
[23:17] Drin: haha sorry, what did it look like?
[23:17] Orbyss: It was that alarming
[23:17] Drin: no not him
[23:17] Drin: i mean the UFO
[23:17] Drin: what did it look like
[23:18] Orbyss: It was up high, but it was causing like this uh, harmonic boom noise that you could feel more than hear, and it was being followed by like 3 fighters
[23:18] Orbyss: It was a perfect triangle from what I could tell, and it had a weird bright red light bottom and center, and in front of it on either side lines of white and green lights
[23:18] Orbyss: I mean it wasn't a plane I've seen here, and it was moving incredibly fast
[23:19] Drin: it must be some sort of military thing
[23:19] Drin: were the fighters following it at the same speed?
[23:19] Drin: or a government escorted alien D:
[23:19] Orbyss: Probably, but it's not known to the general public
[23:19] Orbyss: Or public at all
[23:19] Drin: you should have leeked fotos lol
[23:19] Orbyss: The fighters looked like they weren't keeping up to well
[23:19] Orbyss: I mean this thing was moving out
[23:20] Orbyss: And then in less than 20 seconds it was out of sight and there was no noise at all from it then, just the fighters, so they were tailing it but were a lot less close than when I first saw
[23:20] Orbyss: It was going in the wrong direction, though like
[23:20] Orbyss: They go to and from Holloman and this thing was headed towards uh
[23:20] Orbyss: Well at the speed it was going, Albuquerque
[23:21] Orbyss: I hope it happens again

Reallynobody... you are Soooooo Right, it's a Blooooooddddyyyyyyyyyyy Plane...NO Damn UFO

Last time I checked, my eyes are 20-18. I dont see that it "ends" all I see is that there is a light and then suddenly the picture is cut off. Its at night so what do you expect, to see the entire outline? If the plane was turning the nose could very well have been higher up than the rest of the plane, that distorts the image even more.

Last time I checked the Belgium Air Force doesn't send up fighter jets to intercept a 747. Nor do they come out in public and say they tracked a UFO on radar going at speeds that are much greater than a 747. You obviously haven't even looked into this 1989 case. You simply put together some bogus diagrams.

And really, saying the object in the picture is a 747 type plane is moronic in my opinion. It's a rather close up picture. I know some planes are hard to see at night, but only when they're really far away. I've seen many planes, but none come close to looking like what's in that picture.

RN:
The lights don't even match your example. I live in the flight path of Detroit Metro Airport. Not once have I seen anything like you claim. But keep trying, it seems to satisfy you and others that are clueless.

Nut case even put the lights on the top of the plane. This is why UFO disclosure won't happen for a long time if it even does. Some people are beyond skeptics. They imagine every UFO picture of video to be a plane, stars, swamp gas, birds, or temperature inversions. It's one of those, or nothing at all. Too bad for them, there are plenty of UFO pictures and video that can't be explained.

[QUOTE=hotherym;278009]I don't know about the picture, but I will say that it (and the video in the other thread) are a spittin' image of what I saw just last May.
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Logically one could assume they are all planes? OR am I threading into dangerous territories now.


[quote]
What I saw was definitely not a passenger jet of any sort (for one thing, those are very small and do not have a route directly over my humble abode).
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When an eyewitness makes a statement concerning the size of an object
the first thing I want to know is what they have to compare it with. You cant possible have anything to relate to its size because it was high in the sky, and you dont know how high in the sky it was.

Also, passenger planes occasionally divert from their regular route if there are trying to avoid bad weather, if they have a small technical issue and want to land at a nearer airport, or other such special reasons.


[quote]
It was black with a set of four large lights (in a pattern as seen in both the video and photo) and a few smaller lights. It was most definitely triangular, without any distinct wings or the shape of the B-2s that sometimes fly here.

The picture appears to have 5 lights on it not 4. OFcourse I dont know what you saw, I can only say that this here looks like a plane looks like at night.

If it has lights like a plane, and wings like a plane, is it a UFO? Or can we logically assume it is a plane?

[quote]The latter also do not possess such lights.[/quote]

You do realize planes have different sets of lights, military planes included, and can selectively be turned on and off? But I never said I knew what plane it was, just it looked like a passenger plane. There are many thousands of types of planes. The only thing they almost all share are wings and a tail.

And wings are sufficient to give the IMPRESSION of a triangular craft.



[quote]I can't say that it was silent or not because of the fighters tailing it (loudly), but there was a distinct harmonic rumble that the fighters at the air force base do not cause.[/quote]

Fighters where tailing it... or ESCORTING it?


[quote] Like I said, though, I can't say it's alien -- it looked human-manufactured, but no less impressive than any other aircraft I've seen. It was also ridiculously fast, leaving the Nighthawks eating its vapour trail (if there was one).[/quote]

You cant know at which speed they where flying, only an experienced aviator could tell that. The Nighthaws could simply have been flying at far below the ir maximum capacity. All aircraft fly below max speed if they can help it.

Yeah, I just....I went to watch the video again. Now, I'm admittedly a knee-jerk skeptic, but this one I can't do. Coupled with my personal experience of both the UFO I saw and having personally been under more than a handful of various landing aircraft, passenger and otherwise, I simply cannot say this is a known, typical aircraft. I'm used to seeing weird planes that people not living near a major air force base never see -- it's not even one of those. What I saw I cannot say, but it was not a passenger jet, Boeing, Airbus, Concord or otherwise.

I will stress that it was very, very cool-looking.

You moron, I put them "on top" of the plane because I dont have a picture of the belly and it DOESNT MATTER. I only tried to point out the GENERAL OUTLINE and presumed that everyone could understand that themselves.

I guess not. I wont overestimate your ability to understand in the future, dude.



Something like "Oh Oh I saw something that someone else doesnt right away know for certain what it was! Must be a UFO OMG ALIENZ~!"

I think there are aliens, does that mean I have to act like a gullible retard and swallow every photo you shuff under my superior acquity? I think there are sufficient retards already to make life difficult, I will not add to that chaos even if it means pissing of every one with an opinion different from my own. I stand by my opinion. And unlike you, I actually present arguments other than chewed retoric from someone that is desperately trying to hold on to their fantasy world.

1) You're entire diagram is faulty

2) You obviously haven't looked into the case. You haven't read the Belgium Air Force reports and records on the matter.

3) I'm not saying it's alien in nature. But it's no 747 type jet. If you think it is you're full of it.

That makes an educated couple like myself and my boyfriend retarded because we called an unidentifiable flying object a UFO?

I know my planes, man. I can tell them by sound at this point; for instance just 20 seconds ago a F4-F flew over. And now there's another one. What I saw and what I heard was like no other air craft myself or my boyfriend have ever witnessed. After some research we concluded that no one else knew what it was, either, from our description. Therefore, it was - and remains - a UFO.

I'm assuming that I'm also not the only one who has seen jets up close while they take off and land. I won't discount that the video could be altered to look differently, but I've never seen a passenger jet that looks like that when landing.

You on the other hand try to make some UFOs out to be things they're not. Not all UFOs are planes. Hence the term UFO and the shit load of still classified documents dealing with UFOs. I do not think every UFO is alienz!!123 OMG!

You presented arguments based on a diagram that most people would rather shit on than look at because it's so ass backwards and wrong in general.

I'm not desperately holding onto anything. I have studied this case for many years unlike you.