Mark Foley a sick pervert or a victim of alcholism?

Clear case of someone using his position to indulge his sick fantasies.

I can't say until I see the content of the 'e-mails/text messages' - Only once I can see them in context will I be able to decide....

Anyone know where they can be found?

Ben

I think the fact that he's bringing up that he was molested when he was 15 and that he's going into rehab facility for alchohol addiction is a way to mitigate circumstances. So it makes him look guilty.

Even if the internet correspondence contained a dirty joke, someone in his position should know better than to send that to capital pages.

I would say he is a sick pervert, and his problem with alcoholism is just an excuse.

He is also a hypocrite as one of the news feeds today showed him on a past interview with John Walsh's Americas Most Wanted saying something to the effect of "I sure would hate to be one of those sickos out there with AMW hot on my trail."

The man is a wolf in sheeps clothing, and there are probably alot of these folks in Washington D.C. with power. Didnt they bust that one guy a few months back from the Department of Homeland Security?

Funny how that story quickly dissappeared.

Makes you wonder if those Bohemian Grove rituals are true or not.

The party of morals shines its true colors once again!

I think you're referring to the Dateline special tracking child predators. He wasn't anyone relatively important, just an employee, so it isn't as if everyone involved in a government department is going to make the news.



Uh, just because some congressman was grooming pages for sexual satisfaction suggests that Bohemian Grove participants engage in child abuse? I'm sure a lot of these guys, especially the "family values" politicians, engage in behavior opposite of what they advocate or stand for. Most of them just don't get caught.

Here ya go Ben...

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Oh I missed your post Kiku...

The thing is, when you screw with a child in such a way, it can create psychopathic behavior within that child in early development.
I'm not saying that they molest children to create psychopathic behavior for certain purposes...but it's a thought.

I agree they are sneaky.

Even Bush expressed that he was "disgusted" and "disappointed" with Mark Foley's behavior in a statement he gave the press.

Well...
Advocating it would be amoral to say the very least.

God, people are fucked up.

The thing is, Dani, that George Bush is a recovering alcoholic himself, yet he's not excusing Foley's behavior as a result of his drinking problem.


Some people will make this out to be a political issue pinning Republicans against Democrats, but this should not be the case. It should be a matter of protecting youth.

I mean, come on, this guy lead a task force for stiffer criminal penalties for child internet predators, yet, he's guilty of the same behavior he condemns.

I was sickened by the fact that he's repeating all these irrelevent comments about how he was molested as a youth. Now he has an alcohol problem. And now it's about how he's gay/closeted. These things have absolutely nothing to do with his choices to groom pages for sex, and he's only using these things to plea for sympathy and mask his guilt. I can't believe people are falling for it, and the talking heads on the cable TV news circuit are taking these things into consideration when discussing him. It's so sleazy.

I don't see even a trace of hypocrisy there.

This is all a distraction from bigger, more important matters, like:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/09/28/con...g.ap/index.html

Have any of you even heard about that?

It's amazing what you can find via the blogosphere: In 1983, Representative Gerry Studs, D-Mass., admitted actually carrying out the act with a male minor page (age 17) but won re-election many times afterward. He claimed that it was an issue of privacy. Interestingly enough, if this scandal had occured in Europe, the most Foley would be guilty of is probably sexual harassment, because 16 is the age of consent I think for most places here. Don't Democratic liberals admire Europe's liberalism? Apparently so, if Rep. Studds' post-'83 election record is anything to go by, and continued membership in the Democratic party. There seems to be two kinds of hypocrisy at work here.

You just figured that out now? :laugh:


Thats why I am a hermitt mostly the less I am around people the better at least in here I can take people in moderation LOL

It appears that the speaker of the House is in some hot water due to Mr. Foley's actions.

Apparently it seems that he was aware about Mr. Foley's actions, but really didnt do anything about it.

He might sleeze his way out of it.

Then he's a sick son of a b!+@* and needs to be asked to resign as well. A 15, 16, and even 17 year old boy is not adult enough to handle a situation like that no matter how mature he or others may see him to be.

I tend to sympathize with the left, but if any of them piss outside the toilet I get equally upset about it. It's not about Democrat/Republican its about right and wrong.

I've voted for representatives from both camps at one time or another, so I'm willing to give some right wingers a chance.

Exactly!!!!