http://www.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/intern.../29letter.1.pdf

I honestly think the propaganda in America is wrong about this man. He seems like a person of peace. The U.S is wrong in portraying this guy as an Islamic Fascist maniac who wants the destruction of America.

What universe are you living in? Listen to this guy's rhetoric since taking office. Calling for Israel's destruction, and the annhilation of a its inhabitants does not fit in with 'a man of peace'.

In reguards to the "wipe off the map" statement. He clearly meant that he wants the Zionist rulers to collapse, and the Iranian FR minister confirmed the misunderstanding "Nobody can remove a country from a map. How is it possible to remove a country from the map. He is talking about the regime. We do not recognize legally this regime"
Furthermore:
The Imam said that this regime occupying Jerusalem (een rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods) must [vanish from] the page of time (bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad).

Seriously Understand i think you your really check into thing's Iran president has vowed to wipe Israel of the face of the planet....Thats fact

The man is an anti-semetic



He doesn't say anything about Israel and Palestinians sharing does he....

Do you know the history of the Zionists, Fen? They are not lovely people. He never said that he wanted to blow Israel off the map. In fact I just gave you his words in Arab. Did you not comprehend? He wants to do way with the Zionist regime which runs Israel. He never said he wants to massively slaughter millions of people.

That's strange. Ahmadinejad is not an Arab, he is Iranian, and his speech was in Farsi.

That's funny. He sure did spend a lot of time condemning Israel (uh...or Zionists), and not a word about Hamas, which condones terrorism.

OK I can admit when I was wrong.Maybe it was Farsi. I made an error on the language. I'm not to fluent on world languages and such. But it still doesn't stray away from the fact that it was mistranslated and a lie by the Zionist media outlets to serve its own agenda. I can see where Arab and Farsi could be confused to a person like myself who is not very knowledgeable in the world languages section.

The Iranian President is only a figurehead anyway. However, I most definitely agree with the idea that the US depiction of him is total propaganda - there's no evidence about his "ambition" for nuclear weapons, the media has only repeated it over and over. Now it's automatically a fact?... You'd think people wouldn't be so brainless especially after that same card was pulled in 2003.

Quotes from the infamous leader:

Mahmoud Ahmedinejad, President of Iran

* "The skirmishes in the occupied land are part of a war of destiny. The outcome of hundreds of years of war will be defined in Palestinian land."
* "As the Imam [Ayatollah Khomeini] said, Israel must be wiped off the map.”
* “... the annihilation of the Zionist regime will come.”
* "The Islamic umma (community) will not allow its historic enemy [Israel] to live in its heartland."
* "Any leaders in the Islamic umma who recognize Israel face the wrath of their own people."
* "There is no doubt that the new wave [of attacks] in Palestine will soon wipe off this disgraceful blot [Israel] from the face of the Islamic world."
* “The creation of the occupying regime in [Israel] is a strong action by the ruling arrogant [American imperialist] world order against the world of Islam. There continues a historic war between the World Arrogance and the Islamic world, the roots of which go back hundreds of years ago. ... The World Arrogance turned the Zionist regime occupying Jerusalem into a staging-ground to dominate the Islamic world. This occupying country is in reality the staging-ground of the World Arrogance in the heart of the Islamic world. They have created a base, from where they can expand their rule over the entire Islamic world; it has no other purpose other than this.”
* “The war that is presently going on in Palestine is the frontline of the war of destiny between the Islamic world and the World Arrogance, which will determine the outcome of hundreds of years [of war] in Palestine.”
* “Our dear Imam [Ayatollah Khomeini] ordered that the occupying regime in Jerusalem be wiped off the face of the earth. This was a very wise statement. The issue of Palestine is not one which we could compromise on. … This would mean the defeat of the Islamic world.”
* “The issue in Palestine is by no means finished. The Palestinian issue will only be resolved when all of Palestine comes under stringent Palestinian rule.”
* “I am hopeful that just as the Palestinian nation continued its struggle for the past ten years, they will continue to keep their awareness and vigilance. This period is going to be short-lived. If we put it behind us successfully, god willing, it will pave the way for the destruction and the downfall of the Zionist regime.”
* Ahmadinejad has called Israel a "tumor" that should be "wiped off the map" or moved out of the Middle East, perhaps to Alaska.
* "Zionists have launched their own destruction by attacking Lebanon." (July 23, 2006)
* "Their [Israelis’] methods resemble Hitler's. When Hitler wanted to launch an attack, he came up with a pretext. Zionists say they are Hitler's victims, but they have the same nature as Hitler."
* "The Zionist regime is counterfeit and illegitimate and cannot survive. ... The big powers have created this fraud regime and allowed it to commit all kind of crimes to guarantee their interests."
* "They [the Jews] have no boundaries, limits, or taboos when it comes to killing human beings. Who are they? Where did they come from? Are they human beings? 'They are like cattle, nay, more misguided.' A bunch of bloodthirsty barbarians. Next to them, all the criminals of the world seem righteous."
* "When I see the behavior of America, England, and their other accomplices in recent days, I get the impression that they are preparing even greater crimes. I warn them: Know that the fire of the wrath of the peoples is about to erupt and overflow. If you do not put an end to your crimes, know that the ocean of the peoples will soon rage. When the peoples begin to move, they will drag everybody to the defendant's bench, and will remove them from the throne of power."
* "Today, the Iranian people is the owner of nuclear technology. Those who want to talk with our people should know what people they are talking to. If some believe they can keep talking to the Iranian people in the language of threats and aggressiveness, they should know that they are making a bitter mistake. If they have not realized this by now, they soon will, but then it will be too late. Then they will realize that they are facing a vigilant, proud people."

· "Today, Hizbullah in Lebanon is the standard-bearer of the resistance of all the monotheistic peoples, of the seekers of justice, and of the free people. Hassan Nasrallah is shouting the loud cry of the vigilant human consciences. Today, Hizbullah stands tall as the representative of all the peoples, all the vigilant consciences, all the monotheistic people, all the seekers of justice, and all free people of the world, against the rule of hegemony. Until now, with the help of Allah, [Hizbullah] is winning, and, Allah willing, it will reach the ultimate victory in the near future."
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Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, former President of Iran

* "The use of a nuclear bomb in Israel will leave nothing on the ground, whereas it will only damage the world of Islam."
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Gen. Mohammad Ebrahim Dehghani, a top Iranian Revolutionary Guards Commander

* "We have announced that wherever [in Iran] America does make any mischief, the first place we target will be Israel," said Gen. Mohammad Ebrahim Dehghani, a top Revolutionary Guards commander.
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Yahya Raheem Safavi, Iranian Revolutionary Guards Commander (July 30, 2006)

* "We Must Keep the Hatred of America Burning in Our Hearts Until the Moment of Revenge Arrives."
* "I hope that our courageous and great nation will succeed one day in taking revenge against Israel and America, avenging the blood of the oppressed Muslims and the martyrs."
* "We see America as also being the cause of the death of the 200,000 martyrs in the war that was forced upon us [i.e. the Iran-Iraq war], since it urged Saddam [Hussein] to attack Iran. We must keep the holy hatred burning in our hearts until the moment of revenge arrives."
* "In light of the Zionists' crimes and oppression, I ask God to hasten the years when this regime will no longer exist. ... The Zionists are hastening their own death through their foul deeds, since Hizbullah and the Lebanese people are undefeated. There is a need to topple the phony Zionist regime, this cancerous growth [called] Israel, which was founded in order to plunder the Muslims' resources and wealth."

Judaism and Zionism are two separate things. Israel is run by Zionists.

[QUOTE=Understand;298506]Do you know the history of the Zionists, Fen? They are not lovely people.

Think about how ridiculous your above statement is. Do you know ALL Zionists that you can make such a generalization. How about I take the word Zionist out and put in the word Arabs or Gays or Blacks or Indians or Pakistanis. Your words are racist and ignorant. Stop making generalizations.

And yes thank you very much I do know the history of Zionism and no your automatic generalization that Zionists are not lovely people is as b.s. as it would be to make blanket statements about anyone else.

Now I will get back to you on your defence of this leader but let me tell you this-your attempt to suggest this is a man of peace and he's justified in saying what he does because its "Zionists" is embarassing. You clearly have a preconceived idea that the Middle East has good guys and bad guys and you have decided to make this leader a good guy and the US and Israel as bad. Got news for you, its tiresome. We all know, America bad, very bad. Israel bad very bad. Been there done that.

Read the quotes AJ. The quotes to not differentiate between Jews, Israelis and Zionists.

I also have news for you AJ as much as you may think Israel bad Zionists bad, it doesn't justify anyone whether it be the Iranian leader or ANYONE ELSE insulting or putting down or calling on ANYONE to be wiped out. That is the point.

Sounds like a loving man to me. A kind, warm, approachable guy. I just want to give him a big wet Zionist kiss.

Here are some of my favourites from this misunderstood man of peace.

November 13, 2006
"Israel is destined for destruction and will soon disappear"
Israel is "a contradiction to nature, we foresee its rapid disappearance and destruction."


August 6, 2006
"They (Israel) kill women and children, young and old. And, behind closed doors, they make plans for the advancement of their evil goals."


August 4, 2006
"A new Middle East will prevail without the existence of Israel."


June 16, 2006
"I think we have sufficiently talked about this matter and these Holocaust events need to be further investigated by independent and impartial parties."

"An event that has influenced so many diplomatic and political equations of the world needs to investigated and researched by impartial and independent groups."


May 28, 2006
"I believe the German people are prisoners of the Holocaust. More than 60 million were killed in World War II . . . The question is: Why is it that only the Jews are at the center of attention?"

"We say that if the Holocaust happened, then the Europeans must accept the consequences and the price should not be paid by Palestine. If it did not happen, then the Jews must return to where they came from."


April 14, 2006

"If there is serious doubt over the Holocaust, there is no doubt over the catastrophe and holocaust being faced by the Palestinians. Holocaust has been continuing in Palestine over the past 60 years."
(In a speech at the opening of the "Support for the Palestinian Intifada" conference on April 14-16 hosted in Tehran)


So let's make this clear. No you can't with any credibility try argue this is a man of peace because you may not like "Zionists" and think you can rationalize what he says by saying its o.k. cause its only bad-mouthing Zionists and I mean we all know zionists are bad.

The point is the people of Israel have the legal right to exist whether some of you don't like it or not.

The point is this man talks openly in words that attack Israelis NOT Zionists, that is, innocent civilians.

The point is this is a man who openly attacks Jews and Israelis and does NOT limit his comments to just "Zionists".

The point this is a man who denies the holocaust happened.

This is a man who held an international symposium in Tehran of "scholars" to deny the holocaust ever happened.

This is a man who held an international symposium in Tehran so that cartoonists could draw anti-semitic cartoons and then he personally awarded the cartoonist who he felt drew the most insulting cartoon.

The point is the cartoons were not about zionists, they were about JEWS.

Here is what I ask. I realize some of the people who write in haven't a clue about hisory. SO PLEASE go read about who this man is before you write in and quote a speech and then make some racist slur to suggest what he does is ok.

Here is some more peaceful comments;

December 14, 2005
"Today, they [Europeans] have created a myth in the name of Holocaust and consider it to be above God, religion and the prophets … This is our proposal: give a part of your own land in Europe, the United States, Canada or Alaska to them [Jews] so that the Jews can establish their country."

December 8, 2005
"Some European countries insist on saying that Hitler killed millions of innocent Jews in furnaces.... Although we don't accept this claim, if we suppose it is true, our question for the Europeans is: Is the killing of innocent Jewish people by Hitler the reason for their support to the occupiers of Jerusalem? If the Europeans are honest they should give some of their provinces in Europe -- like in Germany, Austria or other countries -- to the Zionists and the Zionists can establish their state in Europe."

Hell, according to wiki, I'm a Zionist.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionist


This is now the third or 4th generation of Jews who have been living there in recent years. Since we can't go back in time and give the Jews Nevada (which I think would have worked out much better) after WW2, I think they have a right to be a nation there now.

Well then fine Kelly be that way. I am coming to get you and wipe you out.

Your avatar went really well with that post, Rube...lol...

One last thing. You may wish to actually examine what goes on in Iran by doing your own investigation as to human rights violations in that nation.

The current leader is the same leader who banned National Geographic Magazine from the country as being obscene. This is a regime that sentenced a 13 year old girl to a death sentence for incest they blamed on her!

This is a regime that has executed teens for being gay and girls for being mentally ill or "unchaste".

No I think if you investigate this man and what he represents and the extreme fundamentalist beliefs he advocates you will find he is a facist, pure and simple. If you are a Bahaii, gay, Jew, women, someone with mental illness in Iran or anyone who does not agree with his version of what is right and wrong - you are in serious trouble.

This man is anything but peaceful. He is a religious fanatic.

I agree, with Kiku, research this on your own, don't trust the media. But from what I have researched, he doesn't seem to be a "peaceful" man.