I believe if Aliens do exist then they can't reach the Earth. The reason I give for this, is that if other planets have the capabilities of devoloping advance life forms then they must follow the same physics as Earth.

Now if these planets have devoloped the same as us (which we have to assume for the basis of advanced life) then they can have only devoloped the same energy. Oil being the most versatile and Nuclear being highest energy. Their sun like ours will have provided the energies needed to the Planets and then like ours it woul've been stored over the thousands and millions of years. These energies are finite and only so versatile.

Now I for one don't believe we can build a spaceship for long distance space travel, I doubt we can build one to get man as far as Mars. The amount of space used just to store Oxygen would have to be massive. Then there's the problem of having to alter the gentics of a species to withstand high radiation.

Even though the theory of relativity is there I doubt that with the energy resourses available on this planet and the universe a machine capable of the speeds of light is able to be made. As for womholes they may exist but would a craft or a being be able to withstand going through one.

The reason that I think Man has never gone further than the Moon (and thats debatable) is because there's nothing there, no resources worth using. The reason Man will only go to Mars is if it's proven there are vast resources there, if not then resources won't be wasted on such a pointless journey.

The reason for continued space exploration is I believe so Satallites can keep being placed in space, these help with the overall controlling of the planet and it's population. Plus keep talking about Man going here and there gives people longterm hope, but thats all it will ever remain hope.

So you think because the Universe is the same age, that another species out there couldnt have advanced faster then us? You know that some stars are less then 10 light years away. one I believe is only 4. So, even at half the speed of light (Which isn't really that hard to believe. The moon is 1 light second away) We or they could come to earth in just 8 years. 8 years in space to an advanced civilization isnt that hard to believe. One way around space bordom (sp) or using up energy (food, liquids) is to go to sleep. They might rest the entire trip. It might be only one species that is visiting us. that's all it takes. What's so hard to believe about that. That kind of technology (half light speed) might only be 50-75 years off for us. With in another 20-40 years after, we could be visiting the next closest star system.

BTW.. As early as the early 1900s, you could have been locked up for saying we would go to the moon in just a few decades. Well...!

I believe Extraterrestrials(aliens) have reached Earth. Other planets capable of advanced life forms might have the same physics as Earth, but could be able to manipulate these same physics in other ways that we've only yet to discover.
One day we will build a ship or find out how to travel further than we can imagine, only time will tell.
I think the only reason this race wants to colonize Mars is because once this Planet is used up as far as resources go, where are we to go to continue the species? And yes, when we live on another planet, eventually we will become a different species altogether due to the environment we inhabit at that time.
Just as explorers of long ago, we will continue to search for new lands, its what we have done in the past and will do in the future only now its a matter of survival as a race, more so now than ever before.

"I believe if Aliens do exist then they can't reach the Earth. The reason I give for this, is that if other planets have the capabilities of devoloping advance life forms then they must follow the same physics as Earth. "

BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT!!!! why does everyone think that life has to follow earths model of life, i think that scientific notion is stupid. life always finds away, i mean when life frist started, back when we were all little one celled critters, those critters would die if oxygen came in contact with them.
But life evolved, and guess with were breathing now? well besides pollution.....YAY you guessed it. so loggically why couldnt life on some far off planet have to follow earths suit?why cant ETs drink oil and breath farts? earths model for civilization is HORRIBLY flawd and i think that ANY and i mean ANY ETs that were following in our footsteps would be doomed just like we are

i think that all the planets have been created at the same time...who knows maybe not:P but than again it is not impossible that aliens have lived longer than humans and therefore further in their devolopment in every way.

extraterrestrials may have at one time "followed" in our footsteps and now either are doing the same as us, due to their own resources dwindling or maybe as explorers searching for other life in the vastness of space. They might have the same questions or the need to do what they are doing. I just hope its not the need to continue their race, for survival, as it is ours.

why? why shotz? on earth every living thing besides army ants and humans creates a symbiosis (sp) with the surrounding enviroment, i think its just silly to think that there is a model for all civilizations, just because most if not all human ones do, does not mean ET civilizations do. basically what your trying to say is that its universally known that all life tires to kill eachother for personal gain?

all life on this Planet is genetically engineered for survival. i really don't think it's different elsewhere. due to the fact of extinction, whether by means of human intervention or simply the species has failed, may be a clue as to other beings searching for a way and or a place to inhabit. if this could be the model for all life, here as well as "abroad", it may well be time to take note.

Incorrect, planets are forming right now around new stars. So planets were forming billions of years before earth and the sun even existed.


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I think since the universe is infinite, the possibilities for life are infinite aswell.
So are the ways of traveling to other planets. There's nothing that doesn't exist in an infite univers.
It's all in the mind. You can just think yourself to another planet. Only our three dimensional earthly bodies can't. And we're locked up in them.

they can get here and have already been in my opinion. who they are? and why they are here or what are they doing? is what i really wanna know.

you are very correct my friend! :-)

I don't think it will be possible. Maybe Technology as nearly Peaked. If Oil has already Peaked as some say then technology will go backwards or stand still fo a while before a collapse of society. If Oil hasn't already Peaked then nearly all analysts say it will by 2020 and Oil will have run out by 2070. Once the Oil's gone I think we've lost our chance of space travel.

Now I can only see that resources can only be made from the sun (stars) by being absorbed by life or maybe things such as rocks on planets and then over thousands or millions of years they compress and turn into Oil, Heavy Metals (Radioactive stuff), Coal, Gas, etc. So all energy resources can only surely be made from stars and if so then other Alien civilizations will thus suffer the same limitations as us. I can't see how there can be any different basic evolutions than the one we've experienced, surely Physics are the law of the Universe?

I do believe other Alien Civilization exist but like I say I believe they are as stuck to their solar system as much as we are.:headscrat

Space travel isn't depended on oil at all. New technologies will arise and are already there. Don't be fooled into believing that we need oil for anything else then geo-political power for the west.

why isnt it possible for some other Alien civilizations to come up with some other source of power without ever going into the oil tech frist? maybe there is no oil at all on there planet and they had to come up with hydro power? or cold fusion or somthing they call SGAGWE ASGHJPW SP!!!! that is somthing we as humans havent even imagined yet

Tough to say really, but a good book along the same lines of thinking is Willam Alschuler's "The Science of UFOs".

oh i see, got it! i thinking more about the lines around the socalled "big bang":p

Theres no positive way to prove there isnt any important resources out there unless we actually go out and look-how can you prove theres not when we havn't looked? Look at all the resources we have here on earth-maybe they come here to take from us.

Theres thousands of people who would do space exploration that has nothing to do with sattelites. Alot of people are in NASA and others for reasons that have NOTHING to do with sattelites.

If 'aliens' have advancd technology which I and many other believe they have it would be very easy for them to travel here. Theres too much out there that has been seen to the point that you cannot prove they dont exist.

You can never be 100% FOR SURE about anything.

No he's right there is absolutley no way to travel to another solar system. It's not like the universe is billions of years old and therefor alien races couldn't also theoratically be billions of years old and developed spacecraft with propulsion systems that would boggle our minds, ie, an engine that can move the universe around the ship instead of the ship moving through the universe or most likely an advanced method of creating wormholes that compress zillions of lightyears of space down to a couple of feet. So lets just face it, were doomed.