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Feb 3 2007, 10:59 PM
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Worm Holes - do they exist? And do we have any in our solar system?
And, more importantly...what exactly are they? All views welcome. - Shawn |
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Feb 3 2007, 11:16 PM
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I don't think they exist. I think that they travel here at the speed of light +
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Feb 3 2007, 11:24 PM
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I don't know anything about worm holes but I always thought that black holes could possibly be a worm hole.
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Feb 4 2007, 12:05 AM
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Worm holes are a hypothetical topological feature of spacetime. Interesting work being done. For starters, try this link. ~rore http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worm_holes
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Feb 4 2007, 06:48 PM
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I've always thought of wormholes as...I guess portals between dimensions.
As far as black holes go, I've always wondered...is a blackhole really a vaccuum in space? Does it capture everything, including light, and pull it into a void of destruction? Or...does a black hole have another end? Perhaps, whatever is sucked into a black hole, is shot out into another part of the galaxy. Or maybe a wormhole (Einstein called them White Holes) is a portal from galaxy to galaxy. It's anyone's guess. |
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Feb 4 2007, 07:32 PM
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Hi
There is a physicist in London-his name escaped me right now but he has a theory on how we could travel back or forward in time using black holes. The idea is you dont actually go through the black hole but stay on the rim. You know how a washing machine when its taking the water out, and that the clothes stick to the sides and spin aroiund the side and dont fall down, its similar to that, and you use the sides to build up enough energy to cheat the speed of light-you dont actually go as fast as the speed of light but close enough to come out of the whirlpool effect and your in the past or future. |
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Feb 4 2007, 07:35 PM
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There are also areas NASA has recently found that seems to go around all planets in this solar system (like tunnels) and is an area of lower gravity than outside them, future spaceship launches will be using this and not the slingshot effect from venus.
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Feb 4 2007, 07:36 PM
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Read carl sagans book "Contact" not the movie version.
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Feb 4 2007, 07:44 PM
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I'm currently reading his book Pale Blue Dot.
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Feb 4 2007, 07:53 PM
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About Earth?? whos it by??
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Feb 4 2007, 07:57 PM
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It's by Carl Sagan.
It's called Pale Blue Dot - a Vision of Mankinds Future in Space. |
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Feb 5 2007, 08:40 AM
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Worm holes, black holes and other names it may be called, seem to be a form of fast moving energy. Discussions with a top retired nuclear theorist, the worm holes or energy laneways are streams of magnetic energy that form fast lanes that can travel many times the speed of light, as magnetism is aproximately 2 1/2 faster than light to begin with.
The theory of Lt. being MC square is thrown out in post grad physics and the formula that they want you to least to know is given out of it being a 'Variable" rather than a constant. It may be relatively constant here on earth at the moment but can change as is Light speed is changing in the solar system and other places from its normal light speed that may be many times, or millions time or more than ours. The unexplained slowing down of some of earth;s deep space probes in the solar system may well be due to the sudden change of light, Great Light and magnetic currents in space could carry a craft for instance to far reaches of the galaxy or universe, almost in the sam way our own energy meridians do within us. We could call them worm holes or just magnetic lanes as many alien contact claim since the Adamski eras. Proper space travel could use these laneways to get to other stars while black holes may well be area where the gravitational mirror reflexion of other stars does not take place campared to areas where they do. It is like a house of mirrors and where a star really is depends on its reflection. Some stars in theory be seen even many places thus the vibrational rate of the stars is needed so the craft will arrive at the greater home source of energy. Traveling faster than Light? When the speed of the earth and its rotation, the helixing orbit of the sun and earth around the galaxy, the galaxy's speed in rotatation and the clusters speed and etc. we find ourselves already travelling the speed of Light to the 24 already which makes the known speed of light a stand still and we are not being crushed. Light itself is only 'THE WAVE" and particles attaching itself to it and reflecting back on the wave from hitting other objects is what then we can see. Without the particles you could not see true light waves and once again black holes could be areas of pure waves without the particles attached on to them. |
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Feb 5 2007, 10:10 AM
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So are worm holes and black holes the same thing or are they close cousins?
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Feb 5 2007, 10:57 AM
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Ivan posts: Magnetism is aproximately 2 1/2 faster than light to begin with.
Ivan, do you have a source for the above statement? According to Scott Wilber, President, ComScire - Quantum World Corporation: “The speed of electromagnetic waves is certainly known and is defined to be 299,792,458 m/s in vacuum (same as the speed of light).” ~rore |
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Feb 5 2007, 12:08 PM
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All about practical wormholes:
http://www.alien-ufos.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11662 :cool: :alien: :surrender
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Feb 5 2007, 01:33 PM
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Mans posts: All about practical wormholes:
Lengthy read Man but pretty much ‘speculative‘, to say the least. As far as I know there is no hard science that confirms ‘practical wormholes’ even exist. Please show a credited scientific source that has proven the existence of these practical wormholes. Thanks. ~rore |
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Feb 5 2007, 01:56 PM
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(ShawnJ;305843) I've always thought of wormholes as...I guess portals between dimensions.
As far as black holes go, I've always wondered...is a blackhole really a vaccuum in space? Does it capture everything, including light, and pull it into a void of destruction? Or...does a black hole have another end? Perhaps, whatever is sucked into a black hole, is shot out into another part of the galaxy. Or maybe a wormhole (Einstein called them White Holes) is a portal from galaxy to galaxy. It's anyone's guess. All I know about black holes I learned from watching 'Nova:' http://www.alien-ufos.com/forum/showthread...4125#post294125 ___________________________ "Calamity is the perfect glass wherein we truly see and know ourselves." Sir William D'Avenant |
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Feb 5 2007, 03:01 PM
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Found this.
"The concept of wormholes is an important ingredient in science fiction movies and literature. In Star Trek, for example, they travel through wormholes all the time.Wormholes provide a quick and easy way to traverse vast expanses of space without the passage of time - something which, according to traditional physics, should be impossible. But is it? Ever since scientists realized that there are such things as black holes, they have wondered what would happen if you travel into one. One theory says that black holes are so dense that they actually rip the fabric of space, effectively connecting sections of space which would normally be too far apart to even communicate. A wormhole is this idea taken one step further. A wormhole would create a gateway through which objects could actually travel - back and forth - without getting ripped apart like they would in a black hole. And to make things even more fantastic, wormholes could effectively connect not only different parts of the Universe, but even different Universes!" |
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Feb 5 2007, 04:46 PM
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Mans posts: All about practical wormholes:
Lengthy read Man but pretty much ‘speculative‘, to say the least. As far as I know there is no hard science that confirms ‘practical wormholes’ even exist. Please show a credited scientific source that has proven the existence of these practical wormholes. Thanks. ~rore There is no experiment YET, but the related theory has been advanced so much we can say we're ready to realize them. For example, I've presented a paper to STAF-2007: http://www.unm.edu/~isnps/pdfs/2007prelimprogram.pdf Expect hotter news soon ...
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Feb 5 2007, 09:11 PM
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(rorechof;305908) Ivan posts: Magnetism is aproximately 2 1/2 faster than light to begin with.
Ivan, do you have a source for the above statement? According to Scott Wilber, President, ComScire - Quantum World Corporation: “The speed of electromagnetic waves is certainly known and is defined to be 299,792,458 m/s in vacuum (same as the speed of light).” ~rore That assumption theory is from Maxwell's that magnetism is an electromagnetic wave that is equal to that of the same speed of light. Then too that light is a constant. The nuclear theorist I know of is one of the few memebers of The Academy of Science; we exchange thoughts , take.into account that Light and magnetism is not constant and most creation is not inside a vacum and light-magnetism is always being subjective to other resistances that are greater or lesser in degree. It is constantly different according to the resistance with mass and energy as in each change. That resistance with the wave in each thing in existance has to travel totally different speed in order to equal to the other in order to arrive at the same nanosecond. That is the number of spirals of the particle around the wave differ with each creation in the universe, thus has to travel faster or slower to make up the difference according to the resistance rate. The Big Bang even contradicts the conventional laws that most are theory not fact. If the Big Bang had happened, the speed of ligfht it took place at, we would still be waiting trillions of billions of years for it to still happen. Plus even the ufos seen travelling at the speeds they do contradict what we know. We have to learn much more of what really is an not always consider what is known is the ultimate as how many times have we done that and found out otherwise? |
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