I swear this was posted here already, but I cannot find it.


This video is said to be leaked by a source in the Italian Airforce. It's quite intriguing to watch and the acceleration of the craft toward the end of the video is incredible.

Extraterrestrial or not, it's a craft that appears to run off of gravity drives by the way it wobbles. As I understand it, interstellar craft that use gravity to bend space to travel the vast distances are quite "wobbly" in atmospheres and competing gravity environments.

See video:
Italian Airforce UFO

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At first I thought it was an improvement at the failed US Air Force project (forget the name) where a sort of inverted hovercraft was made. It floated on a large fan, but never really took off, so it was scrapped. But when that thing suddenly takes off towards the end, I don't know what to think.

My mind is on the cameraman. What was he/she filming and why?

Now that is a good video. May even be the best ever if it's real.

I'm going to watch it a few more times before I really give my thoughts, but I wanted to say good job in finding that one Whip.

Interesting to say the least. :headscrat

Reminds me of that old joke - how can you tell an Italian airplane? They're the ones with hair under their wings!

As to the video, it's CGI, folks. Here's a dollar - buy a clue.

S

I just found out it's from the early 80's. Still sticking with that Skep?

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looks good but it is either a probe or the aliens are very small....unless its a fake...or a toy....lord only knows what they were doing in the 1980s

senhuan, you are refurring to the Avro Car. Canadian built and tested, but was scraped because of pressure from the US.
Skeptical, why do you say CGI?
It's one of the best videos I've seen. Looks pretty real. I wouldn't call it an alien flying saucer, perhaps a version of the TR-3B?

Sparro posts: senhuan, you are refurring to the Avro Car. Canadian built and tested, but was scraped because of pressure from the US.

I saw video of this vehicle in operation. It was powered by a jet engine which blew air downward through ducting which gave it very limited lift and serious stability problems. It never did ‘take off’, in more ways than one.

The prototype of the Avro flying saucer is now in the U.S. Air Force Museum in Fort Eustis, Virginia. ~rore

Here’s a link to the history of the Avrocar's construction, test flights and subsequent failure to perform as desired. Pretty good read… ~rore
http://www.avroarrow.org/Avrocar/Avrocar.html

Yeah, thanks, that's the one. Why was it scrapped because of pressure from the US? Looks like it was scrapped because it was a flop destined to fail.

I would have to agree.

This looks like stone cold CGI to me.

If it is CG, then it is well made to blend in with the old-looking background video. The video also jumps and is not mounted, which adds the extra (quite hard really) task of tracking the camera movement frame by frame (pixel tracking) with the CG, and pulling it off well (which they have). I've done my share of CG stuff and even been in magazines, so this is no simple hoax. (It is a moderate hoax, at the least.)

I think the easiest way to prove this is a hoax is to find the original model of the UFO, or another pre-rendered image of it.

edit: This, I thought, was the person who might have made the video. He had a similar UFO design a year ago, and it is now removed from the website. See his art for more.

Who exactly told you it was from the early 1980s? How do we really know that it was taken by the Italian Air Force? How do we positively know anything about this video? Whether it's CGI or model-making of some kind, I'm still not buying it for a second.

S

Having said that, it is almost impossible to verify fake or real based on grainyVideo.com specs video quality. After creating a final, reasonable fake video with todays' technology and technique, and then compressing and resizing the hell out of it, it is moot to say whether it is real or not, unless other evidence is provided. The video itself would often not be enough to prove one way or the other, which is why so many of these grainyVids.com have so many comments attached to them.

I think it had something to do with the whole Avro Program, including the Avro Arrow. The Avro Arrow was the most technolgically advanced jet of its time, and there are many that say even by todays standards.
I don't remember the whole story, but for some reason the US had us by the balls and made us scrap the Arrow, all prototypes, blueprints... everything. It had something to do with making there jets look bad or something?
There was a movie made about it starring Dan Akroyd.

I assume you're Canadian from your avatar. Does it not piss you off that Canada would listen to USA in this submissive way? USA asks of what you speak of of another country, and any of them will say 'bite me'.

Folks:

Found this on UFO Updates which explains some of the provenance of this video:

This is an old footage released by researcher Paola Harris in
the US at the MUFON Symposium in 2005 and also at the IUFOC in
Laughlin. Paola lives in Italy and is a prominent researcher and
journalist.

The YouTube and Google copies were taken from Paola's lecture at
MUFON 2005 that is for sale on DVD. According to Paola a seventh
generation copy was given to her in Italy by an anonimous source
under mysterious circumstances.

There are still many obscure issues surrounding this footage and
the case remains unclear. Paola Harris asked me to forward her
response to this controversy.

Santiago

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From Paola Harris:
Watch "Amazing UFO Video Shot By Italian Air Force" on Google
Video: the Truth

To All

No! This old Film Footage I have been showing for 3 years and It
was given to Us Italian Researchers... not By the Air force. It
is our Technology.

I had a cassette examined in Hollywood by my friends Rob and
Rebecca Gordon who had the connections and money to do it. It
was a 7th generation - copied 7 times - cassette. It was given to
us with no explantion. It is a real object in the film. It has
been shown in my MUFON and Laughlin Presentations and someone
put it on U-TUBE and Google!T

his all takes place in the Veneto region of Italy at a place
called Ponte di Giulio. Near Aviano NATO Base. It is a dry river
bed where the military does maneuvers and the photographer was on
a tripod waiting for the object to come out of the woods. I
doubt aliens appeared there!

Paola Harris

So what we have here is an alleged "seventh generation" copy of a video. You have to ask yourself what changes and enhancements might have occurred as it passed through seven pairs of hands. Note there is no mention of the 1980s, Whip. Also note the usual "anonymous source under mysterious circumstances." Who writes this stuff?!

S

Gotta go with you on this one Skep - I had already discussed this with someone else yesterday and reached the conclusion that the 'object' related a little too well to the camera location - either the object was placed on the film for maximum impact in relation to the camera's movements - or the camera knew exactly where the object would do what - either way there was collusion. Anyone who knows anything about filming can see that the object is not only tracked by the camera as it emerges, but by way of reciprocation the object then does it's 'cool stuff' at precisely the optimum range of the camera and bang in the middle of the track - why do folks who really want to find the truth not take the time to do a little 'thinking'?

Ben

Well Skep, Ben.. I guess we are all fucking idiots now incapable of thinking. Thanks for clearing that up as you guys are never wrong.

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