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post May 15 2007, 08:29 AM
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Very interesting UFO video. Let's talk about it! biggrin.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRa-OZE6RAo
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post May 15 2007, 08:29 AM
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post May 15 2007, 09:20 AM
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Holy Crap!! See it accelerate at the end? :eek:
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post May 15 2007, 09:34 AM
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I know... It's very... Very UFO! I can't think of anything else. The UFOs I have seen never flashed like that.
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post May 15 2007, 10:29 AM
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It looked like a garbage bag with some tinfoil attached to it. :shrug:

Then there was the acceleration at the end. A Ufo? Yes...man made? I guess that's up for debate. If it was alien in nature I would vote on a probe.
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post May 15 2007, 11:47 AM
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The balloon people should be here any minute now....



waiting...........waiting
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post May 15 2007, 02:54 PM
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The acceleration at the end does not add up to a balloon. I tryed to identify a shape to it. Sometimes it looked like a triangle, other times it looked saucer type, almost like a Gulf Breeze UFO.
Definately a UFO... Unidentified Flying Object.
The question is, "Is it ours, or is it their's"?
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post May 15 2007, 04:04 PM
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There is no acceleration. The person just jerks the camera to the right.
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post May 15 2007, 05:50 PM
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Okay, I didn't go frame-by-frame, couldn't, but I did start and stop.

First: Amazing video. He doesn't jerk the camera around, and although he focuses in and out, it's well-done and not overdone. The result is a very good quality video.

Second: The object. At first it looked like a balloon, or maybe an inflated garbage bag. Then it looked like a pair of pants! Basically it's ball-like or balloon-like with two appendages (shiny) on one side. The way it was spinning made it look like it was falling, but obviously it wasn't falling but moving sideways. Now it could be a big helium balloon, but I'd think if it was unbalanced enough to keep spinning, it wouldn't be moving to the left quite so well. Interestingly, the way it spins gave the impression or illusion that it was changing shape. This is interesting because some UFO reports include objects that can change shape. This is actually currently possible with human technology as well, using memory-shape polymers (and they're even considering an aircraft using it, one that wouldn't need flaps, rudders or other moving parts on the wings and tail. Sorry, I'm a trivia nut.).

Third: The ending. Slowing it down, here's what I think I saw. One, (about 1.44 or so) the object seemed to get smaller and the shiny appendages were no longer visible. Did it change shape? Did it go higher? I can't tell. Second, (just as 1.44 becomes 1.45) the object seemed to flatten out and become oblong. If it was a balloon, did it lose its inflation? Did the object change shape? Was it an illusion caused by acceleration? Third: (about mid 1.45) The object seemed to separate into TWO distinct objects (here, black blurs). Did it break apart? Fourth: (late 1.45) The object seemed to move quickly to the left and down and immediately disappear. I didn't see it disappear from the frame: it seemed to disappear WITHIN the frame. Fifth: (1.47 or so) the camera moved to the right, and the cameraman asked "Where is it?" Now, notice what was NOT in my assessment: a falling object. If it was a modified balloon, I would have expected the shiny pieces to be more visible on falling. Why? If it was a balloon, then I would expect that the shiny appendages are what caused it to spin, by being unbalanced. Therefore, I would expect the shiny pieces to be heavier than the average of the black balloon. Therefore, I would expect that even if the broken balloon became wrapped around the shiny pieces, air friction against the balloon would cause the heavier pieces to reemerge and be visible on falling. Didn't see it. Now I also noticed, after I initially wrote this that the object seemed to move not only left but down during the end, so I guess we can say it was falling. However, it didn't come straight down, and was moving more left than down, it seemed anyway, which would suggest a fairly strong forward motion. Yes, it might be an illusion caused by camera movement. Point taken.

This is a good video. I can't tell what it is.


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post May 15 2007, 06:28 PM
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There is no acceleration. The person just jerks the camera to the right.


Smoke another one dude... theres no camera jerking...
That thing shoots off!
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post May 15 2007, 10:23 PM
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Pretty compellng actually....one of the better Youtube UFO vids for sure.
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post May 16 2007, 12:25 AM
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There is no acceleration. The person just jerks the camera to the right.


That's what I was thinking, doesn't take much movement to make it look as if it darted off.

The bottom line is this video just isn't good enough to say yeah this is something from another world.
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post May 16 2007, 04:53 AM
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It looked like a garbage bag with some tinfoil attached to it. :shrug:

Then there was the acceleration at the end. A Ufo? Yes...man made? I guess that's up for debate. If it was alien in nature I would vote on a probe.



So you're saying that if I "make" the same UFO at home and throw it from a bridge or something I'll get a UFO flying high and speeding in the sky?

Wicked! Yiiipeeeeee rolleyes.gif


Sorry but that was funny. I hope you don't get upset is just that I cannot see what you see, I also don't know for sure what is that but it's no garbage with tinfoil for sure.
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post May 16 2007, 05:05 AM
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It didn't look like a Balloon or a 'Garbage' Bag, not to me anyway.

Did anyone else see it change direction several times? It wasn't 'quick' or anything, but it wasn't exactly unnoticable either.
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post May 16 2007, 05:13 AM
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It was not going with the wind, so it's a balloon and it doesn't even look like one. C'mon people, if you don't know what it is it's okay. The problem is when you don't believe in anything in your life and you cannot explain something and you come up with one very silly excuse.
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post May 16 2007, 05:23 AM
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Hey hang on a minute, slow down! What Silly Excuses?
As far as I knew we were just trying to help - it'd be pointless having a whole threads worth of "I don't know what it is".

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post May 16 2007, 06:15 AM
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It was not going with the wind, so it's a balloon and it doesn't even look like one. C'mon people, if you don't know what it is it's okay. The problem is when you don't believe in anything in your life and you cannot explain something and you come up with one very silly excuse.


Well to your point Maiden, none of us can say what it is, and assuming it's an alien craft is just as, if not MORE, silly than the rest of the excuses.

You see, I can provide definitive proof of balloons and garbage bags. They really exist. Where is the definitive proof of aliens space craft? There is none just faith.

Think about it. Just because some choose to try to rationalize with logic is no reason to roll your eyes at them. You're being no different than a hard line skeptic, your a hard line believer. Both are the extreme ends of the spectrum, and neither is worse than the other because both have very closed minds. Ironic is it not?
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post May 16 2007, 06:47 AM
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Well to your point Maiden, none of us can say what it is, and assuming it's an alien craft is just as, if not MORE, silly than the rest of the excuses.

You see, I can provide definitive proof of balloons and garbage bags. They really exist. Where is the definitive proof of aliens space craft? There is none just faith.

Think about it. Just because some choose to try to rationalize with logic is no reason to roll your eyes at them. You're being no different than a hard line skeptic, your a hard line believer. Both are the extreme ends of the spectrum, and neither is worse than the other because both have very closed minds. Ironic is it not?


Fair enough, we all stand our grounds here, so where is the garbage balloon made with tinfoil? Would it fly like that? Show the balloon then. rolleyes.gif
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post May 16 2007, 06:49 AM
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sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif No need for Snottiness ST wink.gif.
Maiden may not have even meant it in the way that it sounded anyway.

I know I can sound like a right Moo on my Not-So-Good Days tongue.gif
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post May 16 2007, 06:55 AM
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This one? It doesn't look like it:

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post May 16 2007, 06:57 AM
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sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif No need for Snottiness ST wink.gif.
Maiden may not have even meant it in the way that it sounded anyway.

I know I can sound like a right Moo on my Not-So-Good Days tongue.gif


Pinkii, me and ST never had problems while having a debate, we respect each other but we have very different opinions on this subject wink.gif
Nothing to worry smile.gif
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