With the approaching 60th anniversary of the 1947 Roswell Incident upon us, I've noticed the internet UFO lists are again becoming active, with those that refuse to accept the information already put forth pertaining to two specific accounts of the incident. Those two accounts being the debris found on the Foster ranch, by ranch foreman "Mack" Brazel, and the photographs taken in General Ramey's office. Both are key elements of the incident. In my estimation they have been "put to rest" several times with good research and factual information, but the critics and non-believers apparently don't want to accept factual information. I've also noticed that many times those individuals that don't agree with the factual information have no new or counter information to offer, so the debate continues as it has for several years.

On the debris question I will rely on the research of David Rudiak http://roswellproof.com and a few others for the countless hours they have devoted to explaining away the balloon accounts with information they obtained, documented and previously shared.

Full story: http://ufoalley.bravehost.com/searching.html

Hi Darth someone posted a good idea here a few days ago suggesting there were 2 crashes at Roswell one was a mogul balloon and the other was a ufo the balloon being a cover story for the ufo but if you put it in context then maybe the military haven't lied as such because they would say something like '' hey we told you that it was a mogul balloon that crashed at Roswell but we forgot to tell you a ufo crashed there as well'' its certainly food for thought what do you think ?

There is like 30 people who have come foward. All of them credible towards what went on. Any one who thinks there was no UFO crash at Roswell is stupid

If you read what i said properly 51 i never said a UFO didn't crash at Roswell

I've just found this on www.abovetopsecret.com on July 4th at the Roswell 60th anniversary celebrations Jesse Marcel Jnr will launch his book and will tell the world what really happened at Roswell in 1947 here's the link www.mmdnewswire.com now i know a lot have people have written books about Roswell over the years and a lot of people have made a lot of money but i think that maybe's this book could be different the reasons being he was there the night his dad brought the stuff home he handled the stuff he saw the i beams with the symbols on and one of the most important reasons for me is his story has NEVER changed now this guy is a Dr a very highly regarded and respected person who has no reason to lie and has seen his dad made a scapegoat for 60years and must feel the time is right i know people will see the date and timing as a publicity stunt but surely the date and timing is to make maximum impact on the world i like you have no idea what he's written in this book but i will be buying it on import because i think this will be a must read for anyone intrested at what happened at Roswell in 1947 in fact it may well turn out to be a must read for all of mankind your thoughts please:ship: :ship:

Finally solved? Again?

Why so flipant Vetamur this guy was there he handled the stuff he's seen his father made a scapegoat surely he's entitled to his say btw can you tell me who's solved Roswell before ? because i've never heard anyone credibly explain what happened explain yourself please.

Why so flippant..because even in just my..hmm...2 or 3 years on this site I have been give the "definitive" story , the "real" story, the "hidden" story, etc more times than I can count.

Did I say anything like "He isnt entitled to his say!"? Nope. Its just that if you stick around in the forums and you hang around the periphery of the UFOlogy subculture long enough you start to see the cycles.

You dont honestly believe this is going to be the "end all" do you? How many books with "the answer" on Roswell have there been? The TOP page of a search at Amazon.com gave me 7 books including the titles "The Truth about the UFO Crash at Roswell", "The Roswell UFO Crash: What They Dont Want You to Know".
http://www.amazon.com/Roswell-Incident-Cha...z/dp/1567311326

So..yeah, when I hear about yet ANOTHER guy whose dad/uncle/grandfather etc was there so he knows the real story.. I dont complain..but excuse me if I dont do backflips.

I think your missing the point here this guy actually handled this stuff he's a first hand witness not somebody's relation who was once told a story this guy is the real deal and has nothing to gain about lying ( yes i know he'll make money from the book ) after all his father was made to look a laughing stock by the military his father was ordered to be photographed with weather balloon debris knowing full well that what he collected and saw out on the Foster Ranch was not a weather balloon i mean Marcel Snr was a Major in the airforce he knew what he'd seen im sorry but i disagree about Marcel Jnr being just ANOTHER guy to be honest i dont think there are many more first hand witness's still alive let alone anyone who actually handled this stuff from the wrekage i would ask you to see what his book has to say before passing judgement i can understand your reluctance to believe anyone i mean i believed the A.A.was real for 10 years i've read numerous books on Roswell but im prepared to buy this book to see what he has to say

I’ve heard several interviews given by Jesse jr. and I will say he is a most credible witness, with even some first hand experience, although he was a child when he handled the alleged UFO debris.

I can’t imagine anything ’new’ he may now reveal that will ’prove’ the events at Roswell, like say, proof that an Alien spacecraft crashed there etc.

The book will probably make an interesting read in that Jesse should be able to put all his experiences into a coherent ’narrative’ from beginning to end, rather then the hodgepodge presentation he provided in the interviews. Broadcast journalism can be so very unrevealing at times…lol

Looking forward to reading the book, but I know from journalistic experience, if Jesse’s book contains ’Earth Shaking’ information, it would have been ’splashed’ all over the media net by now… Thanks for the 'heads-up' Oskar ~rore

Uhmm..it couldnt POSSIBLY be that the man is capitalizing on the 60 year anniversery to make a buck could it? 60 years on he just happens to come up with the "final answers"? Or rather is he happy that people people such as yourself will buy the book? The question itself was answered.. what does he have to gain by lying? Many, many of the almighty dollars.

And this 'stuff' is where now? We have, yet again, another book and another story, and another gripping first-hand account, and I have no doubt that there will be blurry photos of unreadable memos, and more photos of where things happened and where things were, but no photos of actual THINGS.

I'm sorry, but where is the evidence? All I wanna do is see some evidence ...

I`m sorry but I think after reading this book we will still be left with the same questions.


Nothing new Im afraid.

Well im willing to wait until the book comes out to make a judgement after all i dont think he was woken up by his father in the middle of the night just to be shown bits of a weather balloon i honestly believe what he saw that night was material not of this earth

A51V....Phillp Corsi isn't one of those credible people that came forward....what credible people are you refering to?.....remember Project Mogul and is off shoots told us about Joe 1 about the same time Stalin found out

everyone has ulterior motives. :smokin:

even if everything the man has to say is true... how the hell is anyone expected to take it for face value?

(...especially after one considers the amount of propaganda and spin, or as i like to call it 'bullshit', that surrounds the roswell incident / area 51.)

you would have to be familiar with someone before being able to ascertain the degree of their honesty and sincerity. if this person is a disinformation artist (counterintelligence), forget about it.

there is no doubt that the US military, specifically the USAF, is working on some 'next level' technology. the rest is pure speculation. not trying to be a debunker. far from it. i am skeptical about many things (most things actually) , but the existence of highly advanced aerospace technology isn't one of those things.

Some might have heard about the first part on this info on tonights Coast To Coast show, But all of this new Roswell information will be revealed to the Media this weekend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I wonder how they will handle it?


"Walter Haut was a first lieutenant assigned to the Roswell Army Air Field in July, 1947. He had trained during World War II as both a navigator and a bombadier. He served in the Pacific during the war and later, in 1946, participated in Operation Crossroads, the atomic tests at Bikini. He had been assigned to the 509th Bomb Group on temporary duty for the atomic tests, but that duty was expanded into a permanent assignment.

According to Haut, about 9:30 on the morning of July 8th, 1947, he received a call from Colonel William Blanchard, who told Haut they had found a flying saucer, or parts from one. Blanchard said the wreckage came from a ranch northwest of Roswell and that the base intelligence officer, Major [Jesse] Marcel, was going to escort the material on to Fort Worth. Blanchard wanted Haut to write a press release explaining the situation and then take it to the local media. According to Haut, it was about noon or a little after when he made the rounds to radio stations KGFL and KSWS and then on to the Roswell Daily Record and the Morning Dispatch.

The Daily Record published the account in the afternoon edition, but the next day announced that the debris had been identified as a weather balloon. In another story in the same edition, Mack Brazel was interviewed, giving a description of the debris that sounded suspiciously like that of a weather balloon. Brazel also said, however, that what he had found that time didn't look like any of the other balloons he had seen.

At the same time, other newspapers, some of which identified Haut as Warren Haight, suggested that he had received blistering telephone calls from the Pentagon and other top military officials rebuking him for the press release. Haut maintains that he received no such telephone calls and said, 'A first lieutenant getting telephone calls from Washington? Had it happened, I would have remembered it.'

The press release did not affect his military career. Haut hadapplied for a regular Army commission and received it. He was promoted to Captain. In early 1948, he received orders that would have transferred him to another military base. Haut established a home in Roswell, his first child having been born there, and the family had no desire to leave. Haut resigned from the service in early 1948."

Haut was a co-founder of the International UFO Museum and Research Center in Roswell, New Mexico.

See Haut's affidavit, and quotes from Haut about Roswell at UFO Evidence. Here is what Haut said on the American television program "Unsolved Mysteries":

"I took the release into town. And that was one of the things that Colonel Blanchard told me to do, take it into town, because if there was any validity to this, he didn't want the news media to feel that we had jumped over their heads and were not cooperating with them."

Here is what Haut said in an interview for an article in "Air and Space/Smithsonian" magazine, Sep-Oct 1992, when asked what he thought really happened back in 1947:

"I feel there was a crash of an extra-terrestrial vehicle near Corona."

2002 SEALED AFFIDAVIT OF WALTER G. HAUT

DATE: December 26, 2002

WITNESS: Chris Xxxxxx

NOTARY: Beverlee Morgan



(1) My name is Walter G. Haut



(2) I was born on June 2, 1922



(3) My address is 1405 W. 7th Street, Roswell, NM 88203



(4) I am retired.



(5) In July, 1947, I was stationed at the Roswell Army Air Base in Roswell, New Mexico, serving as the base Public Information Officer. I had spent the 4th of July weekend (Saturday, the 5th, and Sunday, the 6th) at my private residence about 10 miles north of the base, which was located south of town.



(6) I was aware that someone had reported the remains of a downed vehicle by midmorning after my return to duty at the base on Monday, July 7. I was aware that Major Jesse A. Marcel, head of intelligence, was sent by the base commander, Col. William Blanchard, to investigate.



(7) By late in the afternoon that same day, I would learn that additional civilian reports came in regarding a second site just north of Roswell. I would spend the better part of the day attending to my regular duties hearing little if anything more.



(8) On Tuesday morning, July 8, I would attend the regularly scheduled staff meeting at 7:30 a.m. Besides Blanchard, Marcel; CIC [Counterintelligence Corp] Capt. Sheridan Cavitt; Col. James I. Hopkins, the operations officer; Lt. Col. Ulysses S. Nero, the supply officer; and from Carswell AAF in Fort Worth, Texas, Blanchard's boss, Brig. Gen. Roger Ramey and his chief of staff, Col. Thomas J. Dubose were also in attendance. The main topic of discussion was reported by Marcel and Cavitt regarding an extensive debris field in Lincoln County approx. 75 miles NW of Roswell. A preliminary briefing was provided by Blanchard about the second site approx. 40 miles north of town. Samples of wreckage were passed around the table. It was unlike any material I had or have ever seen in my life. Pieces which resembled metal foil, paper thin yet extremely strong, and pieces with unusual markings along their length were handled from man to man, each voicing their opinion. No one was able to identify the crash debris.



(9) One of the main concerns discussed at the meeting was whether we should go public or not with the discovery. Gen. Ramey proposed a plan, which I believe originated from his bosses at the Pentagon. Attention needed to be diverted from the more important site north of town by acknowledging the other location. Too many civilians were already involved and the press already was informed. I was not completely informed how this would be accomplished.



(10) At approximately 9:30 a.m. Col. Blanchard phoned my office and dictated the press release of having in our possession a flying disc, coming from a ranch northwest of Roswell, and Marcel flying the material to higher headquarters. I was to deliver the news release to radio stations KGFL and KSWS, and newspapers the Daily Record and the Morning Dispatch.



(11) By the time the news release hit the wire services, my office was inundated with phone calls from around the world. Messages stacked up on my desk, and rather than deal with the media concern, Col Blanchard suggested that I go home and "hide out."



(12) Before leaving the base, Col. Blanchard took me personally to Building 84 [AKA Hangar P-3], a B-29 hangar located on the east side of the tarmac. Upon first approaching the building, I observed that it was under heavy guard both outside and inside. Once inside, I was permitted from a safe distance to first observe the object just recovered north of town. It was approx. 12 to 15 feet in length, not quite as wide, about 6 feet high, and more of an egg shape. Lighting was poor, but its surface did appear metallic. No windows, portholes, wings, tail section, or landing gear were visible.



(13) Also from a distance, I was able to see a couple of bodies under a canvas tarpaulin. Only the heads extended beyond the covering, and I was not able to make out any features. The heads did appear larger than normal and the contour of the canvas suggested the size of a 10 year old child. At a later date in Blanchard's office, he would extend his arm about 4 feet above the floor to indicate the height.



(14) I was informed of a temporary morgue set up to accommodate the recovered bodies.



(15) I was informed that the wreckage was not "hot" (radioactive).



(16) Upon his return from Fort Worth, Major Marcel described to me taking pieces of the wreckage to Gen. Ramey's office and after returning from a map room, finding the remains of a weather balloon and radar kite substituted while he was out of the room. Marcel was very upset over this situation. We would not discuss it again.



(17) I would be allowed to make at least one visit to one of the recovery sites during the military cleanup. I would return to the base with some of the wreckage which I would display in my office.



(18) I was aware two separate teams would return to each site months later for periodic searches for any remaining evidence.



(19) I am convinced that what I personally observed was some type of craft and its crew from outer space.



(20) I have not been paid nor given anything of value to make this statement, and it is the truth to the best of my recollection.





Signed: Walter G. Haut

December 26, 2002



Signature witnessed by:

Chris Xxxxxxx

1993 AFFIDAVIT OF WALTER HAUT





(1) My name is Walter Haut



(2) My address is: XXXXXXXXXX



(3) I am retired.



(4) In July 1947, I was stationed at the Roswell Army Air base serving as the base Public Information Officer. At approximately 9:30 AM on July 8, I received a call from Col. William Blanchard, the base commander, who said he had in his possession a flying saucer or parts thereof. He said it came from a ranch northwest of Roswell, and that the base Intelligence Officer, Major Jesse Marcel, was going to fly the material to Fort Worth.



(5) Col. Blanchard told me to write a news release about the operation and to deliver it to both newspapers and the two radio stations in Roswell. He felt that he wanted the local media to have the first opportunity at the story. I went first to KGFL, then to KSWS, then to the Daily Record and finally to the Morning Dispatch.



(6) The next day, I read in the newspaper that General Roger Ramey in Fort Worth had said the object was a weather balloon.



(7) I believe Col. Blanchard saw the material, because he sounded positive about what the material was. There is no chance that he would have mistaken it for a weather balloon. Neither is their any chance that Major Marcel would have been mistaken.



(8) In 1980, Jesse Marcel told me that the material photographed in Gen. Ramey's office was not the material he had recovered.



(9) I am convinced that the material recovered was some type of craft from outer space.



(10) I have not been paid nor given anything of value to make this statement, and it is the truth to the best of my recollection.





Signed: Walter G. Haut

5-14-93



Signature witnessed by:

M. Littell (?)

Now put this new Information into the mix...All of this new Roswell information will be revealed to the Media this weekend, It will be interesting how they handle it?

"Boyd Bushman also confirms that the Roswell UFO was shot down by a US plane equipped with a Tesla Death Ray type weapon.

Boeing ConAir actually built the first US built flying saucer using anti gravity powered by a nuclear reactor. See the link below for a drawing of the craft and its specifications." http://www.coasttocoastam.com/gen/page1986.html?theme=light

From the following News Story...


Boyd Bushman, a Lockheed Martin Senior Research Scientist, demonstrates working Anti-Gravity on Film for David Sereda

Soon to be released in a month or two, From "Here to Andromeda," by David Sereda will reveal Boyd Bushman's theories and devices which prove anti gravity is not only possible, but has been in US possession since the 1950's, obtained from a UFO shot down by our government in 1947.

One of the first interesting tidbits that David Sereda revealed on Coast to Coast is that Boyd Bushman explains that there actually nine forces governing the universe rather than the conventional five that we know of, that being gravity, the magnetic force, strong nuclear force, the weak nuclear force, and the electromagnetic force.

Seventy three old Boyd Bushman has many accolades, including being a program manager for Lockheed Martin, and also worked for Hughes Aircraft, among many other high tech industries. He had a top secret clearance, and was the engineer that reverse engineered anti gravity for Lockheed Martin.

Element 115, formerly revealed by the famous Bob Lazar has now been verified by Boyd Bushman as a second source, that element 115 is the key to developing anti gravity drive systems.

Boyd Bushman is coming forward now because he believes that survival on Earth is precarious at best, and believes that interstellar travel to other worlds is the only hope for preserving mankind.

Element 115 is just one of the new elements that Boyd Bushman reveals has been developed, that we have gone beyond 115 to other elements, which are more stable.

The expansion force, which is stronger than gravity is one of the new forces discovered. This force is the key to anti gravity. It is also the force that is pushing the universe apart. Apparently this newly discovered force is easy to manipulate, and gives the ability to make objects travel faster than the speed of light.

Boyd Bushman also confirms that the Roswell UFO was shot down by a US plane equipped with a Tesla Death Ray type weapon.

Boeing ConAir actually built the first US built flying saucer using anti gravity powered by a nuclear reactor. See the link below for a drawing of the craft and its specifications.

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/gen/page1986.html?theme=light

Part of early anti gravity research was done with opposing two magnets against each other, third illustration.

The experiment involves taking two five thousand dollar magnets, bolting the north to north, and then enclosing them in a rock like case. A rock of equal mass was then used in a drop experiment (without magnets). The two "rocks" are then dropped at the same time from a high distance. The "rock" with the opposed magnets hits the ground after the normal rock. The experiment proved that anti gravity fields could be amplified with electromagnets and nuclear power.

David Sereda also mentioned that the Columbia shuttle was apparently brought down by a strange sort of ray from above. The five photos taken by an anonymous astronomer given to the San Fransisco Chronicle leaves questions as to who, when and why the shuttle was shot down. This is a program you really want to listen too.

Legal Affidavit: Walter Haut Discloses Roswell Truth (released after death)

Bill Birnes, publisher of UFO Magazine was on Coast to Coast tonight discussing major disclosure. Lt. Walter Haut, came forward with what he experienced on the day of the Roswell crash. On July 8, 1947 Walter Haut, the 509th Public Information Officer, released a press release that stated in part, "The many rumors regarding the flying disc became a reality yesterday...The flying object landed on a ranch near Roswell sometime last week." This was later recanted and the weather ballon theory was brought forward.

In 2002 Walter Haut swore out a notarized affidavit that was not be released until after his death. Now the true Roswell event is being brought out written and detailed in his message. In 2 weeks the full article will be released.

This sounds amazing that an Air Force officer that witnessed the Roswell event has allowed us such deep insight that he himself could not speak of until after his death.

Is it the truth this time? True disclosure?

There are a few different way Haut has told this story over the years though all point to a flying saucer recovered at Roswell.
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Lt Haut's Quotes and former 1993 Affadavit
"...AFFIDAVIT

My name is Walter Haut.
My address is: [-------BLACKED OUT-------]
I am retired.
In July 1947, I was stationed at the Roswell Army Air base, serving as the base Public Information Officer. At approximately 9:30 AM on July 8, I received a call from Col. William Blanchard, the base commander, who said he had in his possession a flying saucer or parts thereof. He said it came from a ranch northwest of Roswell, and that the base Intelligence Officer, Major Jesse Marcel, was going to fly the material to Fort Worth.
Col. Blanchard told me to write a news release about the operation and to deliver it to both newspapers and the two radio stations in Roswell. He felt that he wanted the local media to have the first opportunity to have the story. I went first to KGFL, then to KSWS, then to the *Daily Record* and finally to the *Morning Dispatch*.
The next day, I read in the newspaper that General Roger Ramey in Fort Worth has said the object was a weather balloon.
I believe Col. Blanchard saw the material, because he sounded positive about what the material was. There is no chance that he would have mistaken it for a weather balloon. Neither is there any chance that Major Marcel would have been mistaken.
In 1980, Jesse Marcel told me that the material photographed in Gen. Ramey's office was not the material he had recovered.
I am convinced that the material recovered was some type of craft from outer space.
I have not been paid nor given anything of value to make this statement, and it is the truth to the best of my recollection.........
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Now to see what the WHOLE story is in his 2002 Affadavit which will come out in 2 weeks in UFO Magazine.

On Coast to Coast AM there were a few leaks to what will be contained in the new affadavit. It does mention Major Jesse Marcel and Lt. Walter Haut had both seen the real wreckage. The civilian sector started releaseing new about a vehicle all over the place. The following morning he went into the Roswell staff meeting at 7 AM and names of the attendees in the meeting are listed. From Fort Worth Texas Brigadere General Roger Ramey and Brig. Gen. Thomas Jefferson Dubose flew in to attend the meeting. This dicussion was about the debris field at a second sight approx 40 miles north of town. Two sights of crash debris . Lt. Haut stated, "Samples of wreckage were passed around the table and all got to examine. It was unlike any material I had or have ever seen in my entire life with unusual markings." There was a discussion over whether to disclose the truth of what had happened. The initial decision was to let the public know about the Roswell incident to divert attention from the secondary debris field just north and many people had already witnessed the object. Col Blanchard suggested that Haut go to Hangar 84, where from a safe distance he was allowed to observe a 12x15 foot egg shaped vehicle that appeared metalic with no landing gear, windows, wings or anything. He then states that he could see covered bodies with only the heads exposed and that the unusual large heads were observable, but details of facial features were not able to be seen at that distance. He did observe the small stature of the bodies, and determined that they were about the size of a 10 year old child. Col. William Blanchard then motioned with his hand that they were about this tall (indicating about 4 feet from the ground).

Hi Michael can i just say thanks for sharing this with us ahead of the media release with this and Jesse Marcel Jnr's book The Legacy Of Roswell i think there's going to be more questions asked about Roswell than ever before