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nhufohunter
post Jun 16 2007, 09:51 AM
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This guy is getting some great stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlFm7kzzp2Q
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post Jun 16 2007, 09:51 AM
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oskar
post Jun 16 2007, 10:38 AM
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I still think its vechiles going up the side of the mountain


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Graeme Revell
post Jun 16 2007, 11:51 AM
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Hmmm, that's what I thought Oskar, all the way until the last 5 seconds of the clip. Conventional vehicles couldn't travel up and away off the mountainside. Still, I don't know. An extra 5 seconds at the end of the clip would have helped...alot.
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post Jun 16 2007, 01:01 PM
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from the person that shot the videos,

FROM THE ATS DISCUSSION FORUM

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread283150/pg2

posted on 19-5-2007 @ 01:20 AM

Hi everyone

I'm the author of this video, first of all I want to apologize for posting only 28 secs, but I have this filmed on DVD quality and due to you tube limitations I cannot upload more than 100MB per video, this one complete is about 2Gigs. I just posted this little sample to see if there was some interest. Now I'm re sampling all the material I have and It will be posted soon on you tube.

Now I would like to give some explanations on this video.

It was filmed on December 16, 2003 from the 8th floor of a building in Santiago, Chile. around 9:00pm, you can locate this building on Google earth at:

33°27'25.06"S

70°34'33.12"W

(The blue building)

My department headed SW, and as you should see the nearest mountain is about 20 miles away.

I have some films of Helicopters in the same area, but they look very different, just like helicopters

As far as I know there are no roads with that shape on those mountains, there is an airport nearby, but I checked the flight schedule and any special event on that airport without any unusual activity

These lights are moving around an area of about 30 linear miles, i believe this is too fast for a car, a plane or a helicopter.

For those who think these where bikes I just uploaded a second video (6min long) where you can see the lights flying above the mountain and some strange behavior between them, you can watch it at www.youtube.com...

This was the first one I filmed and is dated one year before (12-12-2003).

I saw this stuff about five times in two years and I've sent the footage to a local TV station. They refused to broadcast it without any explanation.

I showed this videos to several friends and family, but nobody seems to have a rational explanation of what is shown here.

And why wait about 3 years?, well I filmed this, I show this to a lot of people including UFO researchers here in Chile and TV stations without any concrete response of what it was. I saved these videos on a box, I moved to a house, and continue with my life, I'm not an UFO enthusiast and I don't even want to be remembered as "the guy who filmed some UFOs" or what could be worst, as "the guy who put a UFO hoax on the web and cheated everyone", so I almost forgot the whole thing.

Last week I was making some order on my new house, and I found this footage on a box, so i decided to publish this stuff on you tube to see if there is someone with any explanation that satisfies me.

I know for sure that these were not bikes or helicopters, I have seen a lot of airplanes on that area (as someone else said, there is an airport in Santiago) and they didn't look like this.

The flares theory intrigues me, I would like to see a video of flares to see if they look the same, in fact what I have seen until now is that everyone has his theory but nobody has a sample of how a dirtbike (for instance) would look on a similar environment. Some guy talked about the scientific method, but how can you make an affirmation of what you are seeing here without a control test showing the same thing?. In the end is simple, I would like to see a video of bikes, helicopters, airplanes or anything on this earth behaving the same way on similar conditions as this lights and I'll be happy with that as a valid answer.

I look forward for your comments

regards

nhobaica

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHvMPTOKe_U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILPIXu6hzF8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlFm7kzzp2Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWg8HUsl048&NR=1
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post Jun 16 2007, 02:41 PM
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ok i've changed my mind lol


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post Jun 16 2007, 03:57 PM
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That's wah tyou have to do study the data aefully and then make your bst guess. We have nothng that does the crazy stuff these ojects did so we can rule that theory out..
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post Jun 17 2007, 05:48 AM
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Possibly a phenomenon such as the Brown Mountain lights, Maco Light, Spook Light and the Paulding Light.

The only way this video does not fit with these scenarios above is that they travel in a line. I believe that the Brown Mountain lights have more of a random pattern, but this is my best guess.
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post Jun 17 2007, 05:51 AM
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*tired* Well, of course they are "vehicles", they are not ghosts for sure... UFOs showing up to the population of Chile. Lucky people, this is going to happen more and more often, make sure you look at it when it happens near you instead of covering your eyes with your hands.
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post Jun 17 2007, 09:53 AM
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Good visual sighting details:


Yet such claims would have died out had they not been based on at least some real events. That something strange was happening around the foreboding continent took an interesting turn in the 1960s when the Argentine Navy was charged with the official investigation into strange sightings in the sky. A 1965 official report prepared by Captain Sanchez Moreno of the Naval Air Station, Comandante Espora in Bahia Blanca stated:

"Between 1950 and 1965, personnel of Argentina�s Navy alone made 22 sightings of unidentified flying objects that were not airplanes, satellites, weather balloons or any type of known (aerial) vehicles. These 22 cases served as precedents for intensifying that investigation of the subject by the Navy (20)."

Following a series of sightings at Argentine and Chilean meteorological stations on Deception Island, Antarctica, in June and July 1965, Captain Engineer Omar Pagani disclosed at a press conference that,

"the unidentified flying objects do exist. Their presence in Argentine airspace is proven. Their nature and origin are unknown and no judgment is made about them." (21)

More details of these UFO sightings were given in a report in the Brazilian newspaper �O Estado de Sao Paulo� in its 8th July 1965 edition.

"For the first time in history, an official communiqu� has been published by a government about the flying saucers. It is a document from the Argentine Navy, based on the statements of a large number of Argentine, Chilean and British sailors stationed in the naval base in Antarctica.

The communiqu� declared that the personnel of Deception Island (left) naval base saw, at nineteen hours forty minutes on 3 July, a flying object of lenticular shape, with a solid appearance and a colouring in which red and green prevailed and, for a few moments, yellow. The machine was flying in a zig-zag fashion, and in a generally western direction, but it changed course several times and changed speed, having an inclination of about forty-five degrees above the horizon. The craft also remained stationary for about twenty minutes at a height of approximately 5,000 meters, producing no sound.

The communiqu� states moreover that the prevailing meteorological conditions when the phenomenon was observed can be considered excellent for the region in question and the time of year. The sky was clear and quite a lot of stars were visible.

The Secretariat of the Argentine Navy also states in its communiqu� that the occurrence was witnessed by scientists of the three naval bases and that the facts described by these people agree completely." (22)

In March 1950 Commodore Augusto Vars Orrego of the Chilean Navy shot still pictures and 8mm movie footage of a very large cigar shaped flying object that hovered over and maneuvered about in the frigid skies above the Chilean Antarctic. Orrego stated,

"during the bright Antarctic night, we saw flying saucers, one above the other, turning at tremendous speeds. We have photographs to prove what we saw (23)."

There have been other Chilean sightings.

Then during January 1956 an event was witnessed by a group of Chilean scientists who had been flown by helicopter to Robertson Island in the Wendell Sea to study geology, fauna and other features. This experience was the subject of a later article entitled �A Cigar-Shaped UFO over Antarctica.�

"At the beginning of January 1956, during a period of stormy weather, the party suddenly became aware of something which, in other circumstances, could have been very grave for them. This was that their radio had mysteriously ceased to function. This was not too worrying a disaster in so much as it was firmly settled that the helicopter would return to take them off again on January 20."

One of the scientists, a doctor, was in the habit of getting up in the night to observe anything of meteorological interest, but another of the group, a professor, did not like to be disturbed. However on the night of 8th January 1956, the Doctor decided to wake the professor. He,

"pointed upwards, almost overhead. Still in a bad temper through being disturbed, [the professor] looked as directed, and beheld two �metallic� cigar-shaped objects in verticular positions, perfectly still and silent, and flashing vividly the reflected rays of the sun."

Soon after 7.00am, two other members of the party, an assistant and a medical orderly joined the two men. The group watched the two craft.

"At about 9.00am object No. 1 (the nearest to the zenith) suddenly assumed a horizontal posture and shot away like a flash towards the west. It had now lost its metallic brightness and had taken on the whole gamut of visible colours of the spectrum, from infrared to ultra-violet.

"Without slowing down it performed an incredible acute-angle change of direction, shot off across another section of the sky and then did another sharp turn as before. These vertiginous maneuvers, the zig-zagging, abrupt stopping, instantaneous accelerating, went on for some time right overhead, the object always following tangential trajectories in respect to the Earth and all in the most absolute silence.

"The demonstration lasted about five minutes. Then the object returned and took up position beside its companion in almost the same area of the sky as before, but now it was the turn of No. 2 to show its paces and do a weird zigzagging dance. Shooting off towards the east, it performed a series of ten dispointed bursts of flight, broken by brusque changes of direction, and marked by the same colour changes when accelerating or stopping, and so on. After about three minutes of this, object No. 2 returned and took up its station near its companion, and reassumed its original solid and metallic appearance.

"The scientists had with them two Geiger-Miller counters of high sensitivity, one of the auditory and the other of the flash-type. When the two objects had finished their dance and reassumed their stations in the sky, someone discovered that the flash-type Geiger counter now showed that radioactivity around them had suddenly increased 40 times � enough to kill any organism subjected long enough to it. The discovery greatly increased the anxiety felt by the four men �

"Although they had no telescopic lens, they did however have cameras with them, and they took numerous photographs of the objects, both in colour and black and white. We are not told in the report what became of these photographs." (24).

Five years later there was another documented account of a UFO sighting over Antarctica by Rubens Junqueira Villela, a meteorologist and the first Brazilian scientist to participate in an expedition to the white continent, now a veteran of eleven expeditions to Antarctica (two with the US Navy, eight with the Brazilian Antarctic Programme and another on the sailing ship Rapa Nui). Whilst on board the US Navy icebreaker Glacier (below right) which had set sail from New Zealand at the end of January 1961, Villela claims that he witnessed a UFO event in the skies over Antarctica which he immediately recorded in his diary, even including the emotions felt by all those involved. During 16th March 1961 and after a fierce storm had forced the expedition to retreat to Admiralty Bay in the King George Isles,

"a strange light suddenly crossed the sky, and everyone started to shout.

"�It�s a missile!� said one excited Marine. �No, it�s a meteor,� barked another member of the crew. The excitement was wide-spread and growing. Trying to describe the light which appeared over Almirantado Bay wasn�t easy � I wrote in my diary: �Positively the colors, the configuration and contours of the object, as a bodied [sic] light, with geometric forms, did not seem to be from this world, and I did not know what could possibly reproduce it."

"The object was multi-colored and had a luminous body � oval-shaped. It left a long tube-like orange/red trail. Suddenly, it split into two pieces, as if it had exploded. Each part shone even more intensively, with white, blue and red colors projecting �V� shaped rays behind it. Quite quickly they moved away and could be seen 200 meters above the ground � Throughout the sighting no noise was heard by any of the witnesses."

"The US Navy officially registered the incident as "a meteor or some other natural luminous phenomenon" according to the report submitted by the Glacier�s captain, Captain Porter.

As a trained meteorologist, Villela easily dismissed the official line. "How could they mistake a meteor with an object carrying antennae, completely symmetrical and followed by a tail without any sight of atmospheric disturbance?" (25)

The renowned skeptic and self-styled debunker, Phillip Klaus, believes this episode is a classic example of �plasma�, however the late meteorologist, James McDonald argued that the highly structured nature of the object and the low cloud overcast present at about 1500 feet were not compatible with Klass�s hypothesis.

The South Atlantic area was also host to another sighting on 16th January 1958 when the Brazilian naval vessel Almirante Salddanha was escorting a team of scientists to a weather station on Trindade Island. As the ship approach the island (or rather an outcrop of rock) a UFO reportedly swooped past the ship, circled the island, then flew off in front of dozens of witnesses.

One of these witnesses, the expedition photographer, took a number of photographs of the object, and later the film was handed over to the military by the Captain. After analysis, the Brazilian government released the film stating that they were unable to account for the images.

Whatever was going on in the Antarctic region, it certainly wasn�t happening in isolation.



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