Couple of vets talking about black ops and psy ops. Video is a little long but interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWfpORZOpjk&NR=1

jeezuz christ. this guys looks & sounds just like i guy i know.

i've heard a few stories like this from another black ops veteran.

Yes, i thought just looking at them and they way the talked was kind of like some of the guys that i have seen that came back from Vietnam and other wars.

Hard to say really, but if you read the comment's the majority of people think it's B.S....

im sure stuff like that happened but i don't think these guys are truthful

Do you any kind of evidence that it BS ?

Why would they lie about having memory loss ?

Sorry but that sentence makes no sense whatsoever....:headscrat



why do people lie.....:shrug:...you tell me....

You made the statement about it might be B.S. and i asked if you had any evidence of this.

But why lie about memory loss, people uasually make up lies about something a little bigger then memory loss.

Heh?!? People lie on just about every level, and have multitudes of reasons for doing so.

Yes, but i do not see any reason or purpose for these guys to lie. I do not think they did it just to get noticed, plus i have heard other vets talk and say things like that.

If you've heard others say it, I'm sure that they could've heard it from other sources as well. Just the fact that you mentioned you don't 'believe' they would've lied doesn't mean they couldn't have reasons to lie about it. Just to get noticed is quite enough for many, no matter what position of importance they might hold.

They could have lied i just do not see any reason for them too and as stated they sound like other vets.

No i said people in the comment's section were saying B.S....

But i can't say as i believe them either....

there is no way of knowing for sure. only those involved would know.

i have heard stories like this before, as i mentioned. that doesn't mean these guys are being honest. and what i've heard wasn't exactly the same. energy weapons and psychotronic warfare, black ops personnel experiencing missing time and massive memory loss i've heard tale of... and not from old men starving for attention or with anything to gain by lying or speaking out.

surely there are many war veterans with tons of repressed memories. piecing those memories back together is bound to be confusing.

i have encountered my share of pathological and habitual liars, (aside from online) but its almost always relating to something mundane. if someone lies about being a special forces operative they can be sniffed out easily with just a couple of questions. generally if someone lies about something like that they are trying to give the impression that they are some sort of bad-ass. which is pitiful and ridiculous.

Well it would be easy to check out some of thier story. You could check out military documents. But 1 thing real easy too would be tattoos. Certain tattoos are only done for certain people and also only are done in certain places or countries.

speaking as a professional tattoo artist... that isn't very accurate. anyone can have any tattoo they want so long as they have the $$$. i have seen guys that were never in the navy sporting SEAL insignia tattoos. which is fuckin' retarded, unless they are honoring a close family member that served in that capacity... and that doesn't mean they earned it.

also, black ops records are not available to the public. hell... they aren't even available to government officials unless they have some impressive security clearance. and even then they'd have to be working (probably covertly) with the DoD.

easy?!

military records... thats a laugh friend. i have family members that serve and have served as special operatives. let me tell you from personal experience, not even wives, sons, daughters, fathers, mothers or any other immediate family members are allowed to view records until the DoD sees fit. and that is a big if and when situation. my family has been waiting for more than 50 years (going on 60) for some of these truths to be revealed. so i wouldn't hold my breath waiting for answers from the government or military. even if those records were revealed you can bet your britches there will not be anything revealing within. that is if any record actually exists.

information of this nature is available on a strict "need to know" basis. if the DoD doesn't think anyone needs to know then they most likely never will.

But you will admit that their are special tattoos for the military and you can usually tell where they are done, other countries use different inks and differnt styles for tattoos.

Also i was talking about the normal military records he stated he had, so you could at least prove that part.

Im usualy distrustful of anyone by nature but these guys and hypnosis/mind control i do have to belive.

Anyone like to try http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_serum and tell me its effects, ive also read over the years a few things on magnetics like http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?c...pt=AbstractPlus

Want to break someones will without them knowing http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0721-10.htm

But best of all is the thought itself http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6914492.stm

We all watch the biggest mind control in action every day and ignore it "Advertising".

Even if these guys are'nt telling the truth i wont be convinced easy that mind control isnt possible.

I remember some friends who were in special ops and 2 friends who were at the NSA....none of them has ever spoken about what they knew or saw....its 20 years and counting and they never say anything....and they never will.....besides I have never asked.

I've also observed that the more a veteran sees in a war....the less they say about it.

Yes, i have noticed that too about vets. By the way i work at NSA.

But like i said i have seen vets that act and talk like these two if they are pressed.