It looks like there are biblical reasons to believe that modern day UFOs are highly advanced air craft piloted by God's angels. There are flying objects in the bible that are associated with angels that look like the UFOs seen and filmed in the sky today.
The bible seems to show that they help in warfare, causing the side that God chooses to win.
There was an angel associated with that Cloudlike pillar that led the Israelites through the desert. That pillar seemed to help the Israelites by taking off the charriot wheels of the Egyptians.
Exodus 14:19 And the angel of God, which went before the camp of Israel, removed and went behind them; and the pillar of the cloud went from before their face, and stood behind them:
I think the cloudlike pillar was a UFO piloted by angels and it used its armaments to hinder the Egyptians.
Judges 5:20 They fought from heaven; the stars in their courses fought against Sisera.
Angels are called stars in the beginning of the book of Revelation.
In that scripture it seems like the angels helped Israel to defeat their enemies in the book of Judges.
I also think the nativity star was probably a UFO piloted by angels and it led the wisemen to the house where Jesus was.
Real stars in space appear to be an infinite distance away and cannot hover over a particular place like the nativity star did.
The watchers in the book of Daniel, I believe were angels, and they brought punishment upon King Nebuchadnezzar because he was lifted up in pride and did not give God the glory. So the angels taught him that the heavens and God rule.
Angels help saints and punish sinners.
I believe that the chariots or vehicles that angels fly around in are seen and filmed today. They are called UFOs, by the public; unidentified flying objects.

Psalms 68:17 The chariots of God are twenty thousand, even thousands
of angels: the Lord is among them, as in Sinai, in the holy place.

The cloudlike pillar UFO was filmed by Tim Edwards in the US, and David Spore in England. It has a white cloudy mist around it and glows with a golden glow at night, which matches what the scriptures say about the pillar that led the Israelites in the desert.
http://ourstrangeplanet.com/index.php?opti...3&Itemid=57
Scroll down page to see still photograph of white pillar ufo.

Angels use vehicles or chariots. There are modern day UFOs that look like the cloudlike pillar in Exodus, the wheel within a wheel (saucer or disk) in Ezekiel chapter 1, and the bright light that appeared to Paul and his companions on the road to Damascus, from which Jesus spoke to Paul and the light did Paul eye damage.
So, I think there is evidence that angels pilot UFOs and fly around in them, watching over the planet.

Most of the angels in the bible don't have wings. In the Old Testament and at the tomb of Jesus they looked like young men. However their countenance was diferent. You could probably feel God's presence when you were near them. Paul said some have entertained angels unawares. That means there are angels walking among us, and they look like men, and you cannot tell they are angels. They don't have wings.
The creatures in Ezekiel that did not look human, had what he described as wings. But his description does not involve the flapping of wings. They may have just been part of a space suit that looked like wings. But he called them wings, maybe they were real wings.
Jesus said those that enter into that life, referring to the time after the millenial reign cannot die anymore but are as the angels. In Revelation it says, there will be no more death in that time. Now there is death. And apparently angels can die now too. They die in UFO crashes. They cannot die of old age. A word used for angels in Matt. 24 is eagles. There is a passage in psalms that refers to renewing your youth like the eagles. Angels don't get old so they don't die of old age. They probably eat nutrition similar to the fruit of the tree of life in the garden of Eden and that nutrition allows them to renew their yourh. But angels can be killed now. The fallen angels, the devils, don't have physical bodies and were probably killed when they lost the war in heaven. There is also a scripture in Daniel which tends to show that angels can be killed now.

Daniel 8:9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.
Daniel 8:10 And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them.
Stars is a word for angels in the beginning of the book of Revelation.
The antichrist is going to use his military forces to shoot down UFOs and the angels that pilot them. I have seen a short film of a UFO taken from space, and it changed direction as what looked like a missile was fired up at it. The military may be shooting down UFOs already.
In the next life, after the milenial reign it says in Revelation there shall be no more death. It looks like both men and angels can die now.
Revelation 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
However, the laws conscerning angels are different from the laws conscerning men. Maybe God would just give them another physical body later.
The crop circles are cause by the peculiar energy field that the UFO propulsion system uses. They use small robot UFOs to literally paint portraits of designs in the crops. I'm not sure why they do this.
[I suspect the energy field they use to be chi, or psychotronic energy--Aura energy.]
Scientist agree that the UFOs are using some sort of energy field propulsion.
Most of the people that are abducted are terrified and scared. Most of the people that are abducted are practicing sinners that are not right with God and they should be scared in the presence of God's angels. The peculiar energy field they use gives them the ability to access another dimension, and they abduct people right out through the wall or ceiling. They can pass through walls like the angel that rescued Peter from prison in the New Testament. These genetic activities they seem to be doing might be a form of control on human genetics. It would be how God controls the human gene pool. Maybe genetic manipulation developed the 5 races of men, like that. They may also be testing people to determine their health, to see what needs to be added or taken from the environment to keep people healthy. Sort of like caring for a pet.
I assume they are using their UFO energy fields to manipulate the weather and make life possible on the planet Earth. [All the other planets have weather in chaos, but our weather is finelly balanced to support life. This is by design and not by chance.]
Psalms 68:17 The chariots of God are twenty thousand, even thousands of angels: the Lord is among them, as in Sinai, in the holy place.

2 Kings 2:11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.


My understanding of this is, it was a fire ball UFO, typical UFO type. They considered it a vehicle which contained occupants; in those days vehicles were chariots. Chariots are pulled by horses. It moved, and they perceived it was the fire that was pulling it along, so the bible speaks of "horses of fire". The energy field around fireball UFOs is what makes them move. So you get the phrase, " horses of fire."
The UFO energy fields have been known to make compasses spin, and interfere with electrical and mechanical equipment at a distance. [Note the truck scene in the movie, "CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND"; it was based on real ufo events.] There may be an internal source for the energy field, but it definitely surrounds the UFO on the outside and affects other things at a distance.
Also the energy field sometimes glows and sometimes it don't glow. So, the ancients would have described this as fire.
The only kind of vehicle propulsion known to the ancients was an animal, mostly horses, pulling a wheeled vehicle or chariot. So, if the fire (glowing energy field) is making it move, then it could be described as "horses of fire".

interesting - but i thought Satan is the prince of the power of the air, in EPHESIANS 2:2

He is that, but you must understand what the bible meant by that.
It does not mean Satan has flying vehicles. Nowhere in the bible do any devils have flying vehicles associated with them. Devils in the bible are evil spirits that don't have physical bodies, so they don't need flying vehicles. Devils exist in a spiritual dimension, (the spirit world) which occupies the same space as our physical world; the spirit world occupies the same space as our air. They are evil spirits that can telepathically influence men to do their will or enter into men's bodies and control their minds in devil possession. They use the bodies of others.
Angels in the bible do have physical bodies. Jacob wrestled with an angel so he must have had a physical body. Because God's angels have physical bodies, they use flying craft.

I really don't believe angels need a craft to take them where they need to go, but it really is a conforting thought none the less.

Thanks for that antiaging, I was aware of Ezekiel but not the others, you have compiled a nice little collection there. I have read Ezekiel over and over and cannot fathom how anyone can not think it describes the arrival of some flying craft. TO me there have always been only three plausible explanations,

1. It really was a biblical event as interpreted by the church.
2. Ezekiel was a nutter and just made the whole thing up.
3. It was a visitation by some flying craft. from somewhere.

I just cant think of an option 4!

Since I am not inclined to be a religious person, i personally discount option 1,

He could have made the whole thing up I suppose, bet he was pretty creative to create something that a couple of thousand years later would have the characteristics of a flying vehicle.

It really was a flying vehicle as it seems to describe when looked at with modern eyes. It would surely seem godlike to a primitive culture that has not seen anything like it before.

Either way, thanks for the extra reading. Have you found any more that you have not listed?

I am writing a book about this also along with many other things are related. Like what if angels that are described are actually E.T.'s. In Luke 1: 1-17,27-38, I'm studing a old bible I have and it talks about how Mary saw a Angel and was troubled. And cast in her mind what manner of salutation.
That will conceive. She asked how can this be, she does not know a man. Talks about the Highest power. Then told her of Elisabeth was barren, has a son in her old age. For with "God", nothing shall be impossible.
When I saw many show about abductions of women with eggs taken and there babies. I said the same thing, no way, wright. Then the more I thought about it and this was in the bible. This is also I believe why Jesus had "powers".

we dont know if they are flying craft - Satan could be showing us these wonders

maybe god is a control and all the recent events in the past 100 years are to gain more peoples trust and to past the storys when the shit hits the fan.

An angel of God spoke to Joseph, Mary's husband in a dream. UFO abductees sometimes are abducted from their beds, and remember the experience like it is a dream. One of them awoke with a needle puncture mark, where they dreamed an alien had stuck them with a needle. One awoke with cut hair, where they dreamed an alien cut their hair.

Matthew 1:20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.

Some UFO abductees say that the aliens came and spoke to them, telepathically, in a dream, while they were in their beds.

The Ezekiel account sounds to me like a saucer or disc UFO. A wheel within a wheel. Some of the ancient wheels were discs, with no spokes. So, a disc with a smaller round disc rising up in the center of it. Eyes in the rings. The wooden disc wheels had metal rings (or bands) around the rim to preserve the wood and keep it from splitting. Eyes in the rings could be lights around the rim of the disc. Saucer or disc shaped UFOs often have lights around the rims. The spirit of the living creature was in the wheels. That is inteligent control by the creatures. They controlled what the wheels did.

Jesus spoke to Paul on the road to Damascus from what looked like a modern day fire ball UFO. That was not a manifestation of Satan.
A chariot of fire with horses of fire took the prophet Elijah up by a whirlwind. That was not a manifestion of Satan. The prophet Elijah went up to God.
An angel of God was associated with the cloudlike pillar that led the Israelites through the desert. That was not a manifestation of Satan either.

Exodus 14:19 And the angel of God, which went before the camp of Israel, removed and went behind them; and the pillar of the cloud went from before their face, and stood behind them:

Nowhere in the bible are any kind of flying vehicles associated with devils.

i dont see a modern day fire ball UFO in ACTS 9:3 just a light from heaven

:laugh: I have a old Prince James version bible. And there is no fire balls in this one. It sounds like a rewritten "modern" bible. Objects in the bible are "described" what we know in that "time". "fire ball" is modern.
There are UFO's "describe as the following, Pillar of fire, little cloud, pillar, Chariot of fire, wheel of eyes, bright cloud, scroll, candle stick, so on.

If God has UFO's then the Devil has them also. There are too many
scary abduction experiences to conclude that all aliens and UFO's are
God's angelic helpers. I think there are benevolant ET's, but I wouldn't
go so far as to say they're all agents of God. You'd better be careful
stating your theory around Sherry Shriner, buddy.

Isnt that how Mulder found Scully and their child?

Some good points though

I thought the whole point was that they are not angels if they need "advanced flying craft".