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perfectly_dark
post Jan 12 2008, 10:27 PM
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Hey all came across this link today, found it pretty interesting. I was wondering if anyone had any further info on this?

http://www.pureinsight.org/pi/index.php?news=1582

Also I am trying to do some research on the previous advanced civilization theory, but finding it very hard to find any good credible sources on anything, does anyone have any good links they would like to share?
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post Jan 12 2008, 10:27 PM
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post Jan 13 2008, 01:31 AM
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You just touched on a point about history best left alone right now. It is too unreal that such a thing could have existed. Not to mention time frames man can not think with and rejects just because it is so upsetting.

Man has a case of amnesia like you would not believe. Anyone that touches what happened to him is going to stir up a hornets nest. It was not fun for him, out of cutesy for the overwelmed, it should be left alone until man once again chooses to remember. Please respect the rights of others.
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post Jan 13 2008, 04:21 AM
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Sorry Scottman have I somehow offended you in this post??? Respect the rights of others, ok, in what way have I violated those in this post? please explain???

Anyway all I do apologise I did some further research on this nuclear reactor and it does appear to have been proven as a natural phenonemon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_nuclear_fission_reactor
Hope that helps.

But I dont think we should 'leave things alone out of courtesy for the overwhelmed', whatever that means. if you dont like it dont read it buddy
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post Jan 13 2008, 07:44 AM
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Interesting link.
Great follow up.


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post Jan 13 2008, 07:46 AM
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(Edit: sorry, I didn't check that second post more clearly, I would have seen that you'd already found your answer, but here's a little more)

There's no offense. I think this is Scottman's warning that this will be debunked ... and here it comes.

(1) Surprise of all surprises: parts of this are true. Blew me away!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomy_Picture_of_the_Day
This tells the provenance of the source: NASA and MIT

This is the source:
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap021016.html

Okay, what we're talking about are natural 'nuclear reactors'. Basically, you have heavy fissile elements that are capable of sustained nuclear reactions in nature. This is no longer possible today because, according to NASA, these radioactive decay of these elements has stabilized the elements, meaning that they are no longer capable of this kind of reaction without help.

So this is what we're talking about:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_nuclear_fission_reactor

Natural nuclear reactors are no longer possible.

Want something besides Wiki?
http://www.ocrwm.doe.gov/factsheets/doeymp0010.shtml

U.S. Department of Energy
Office of Civilian Radioactive Waste Management

Yucca Mountain Project

So it doesn't mean that there was a facility built by intelligent beings. It means that natural conditions allowed nuclear reactions to occur.

Now, I'm not saying there WEREN'T intelligent species back then. When I was a kid, science said that there were NO mammals at the time of the dinosaurs ... and now we know there were.

How do we know there weren't giant, hyperintelligent slugs who would leave no remains for the fossil record? We don't.

So I'm not talking about the existence or non-existence of intelligent species: I'm only clarifying the meaning of 'nuclear reactors', which has obviously been misunderstood and misappropriated here.

However, Perfectly_Dark, I sincerely want to thank you for bring this in. This is one time when somebody brought something in that sounded completely ridiculous, and because I checked it out, it opened a whole new door of knowledge on things I never knew before: Natural nuclear reactors ran on earth churning out massive amounts of energy for hundreds of thousands of years: and NASA and DOE confirm it. That is sincerely cool. Thank you.


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post Jan 13 2008, 12:42 PM
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Sorry Scottman have I somehow offended you in this post??? Respect the rights of others, ok, in what way have I violated those in this post? please explain???

Anyway all I do apologise I did some further research on this nuclear reactor and it does appear to have been proven as a natural phenonemon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_nuclear_fission_reactor
Hope that helps.

But I dont think we should 'leave things alone out of courtesy for the overwhelmed', whatever that means. if you dont like it dont read it buddy


Lol, me? upset? No. Go right ahead, I changed my mind, it looks like it makes good reading. Perhaps we could learn something from it.
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post Jan 13 2008, 12:52 PM
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ScottM posts: Klingons and Stardestroyers are nothing!
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C’mon Sman. Do tell or reference what the heck you are ‘alluding’ to ok?
Provide a link or something…lol ~rore

eta: or start a thread regarding past Human civilizations?


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post Jan 13 2008, 01:15 PM
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ScottM posts: Klingons and Stardestroyers are nothing!
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C’mon Sman. Do tell or reference what the heck you are ‘alluding’ to ok?
Provide a link or something…lol ~rore

eta: or start a thread regarding past Human civilizations?


Hehe, I get excited sometimes. Making sure that passion is directed at the right audience is important.

Sad to say I am relatively new to the internet. Much of what I bring has no links and my sources would never consent to proving or validating my statements, so you are just stuck with my outrages claims. =)

I have a habit of going back and toning down my posts for all those that just can't stand it. That Klingon statement is no longer there. If need be I can filter out everything contraversal. But that just does not seem very fun. So I pick a middle ground. The worst that could happen is some one could think I pull it all out of ...my imagination. But I don't, I know the difference well.
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post Jan 13 2008, 02:25 PM
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Anyway all I do apologise I did some further research on this nuclear reactor and it does appear to have been proven as a natural phenonemon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_nuclear_fission_reactor
Hope that helps.


I am no expert on this. If they say it was natural I have no objections.
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post Jan 14 2008, 03:30 AM
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Cheers thanks for the further reading guys smile.gif
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post Jan 14 2008, 04:26 AM
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Even though it can spontaneously occurs – as we’ve seen in Oklo, Niger (where a nuclear reactor has functioned 400 Kyrs in a Uranium deposit, 2 Gyrs ago) – it is not so easy to cause a chain reaction.

To do so the neutrons must find a tiny target – the nuclei (of ≈7 fermis in diameter and ≈350,000 fermis distant from each other). If the amount of fissile material is too small, the neutrons just flee away well before inducing a new fission.

To properly induce and maintain a chain reaction, you must have a minimal amount of fissile material – i.e. the critical mass: About 50kg for 235U, or 10 kg for 239Pu. That’s the reason why you cannot build very small nuclear reactors.


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