http://www.videosoftheunknown.com/vu/view....923875297833376

This has probably been discussed before but have a few questions I am hoping someone could help me out with.

1. When did this conference take place?

2. With so many credible people disclosing all this info,why isn't this all over the front pages and all the news stations?

I just don't get it.

Well, if you watch the entire documentary the main spokesperson Dr. Greer points out that he has had briefs with various congress members. Their hands are tied to some extent as well. Also, the whole point in them doing this is to attempt an open forum w/ the government particularly through congress in order to disclose all the info. the government is holding back. I am not sure when this took place but I believe it is was in 98 or so. If you haven't seen the entire video I say you should b/c I myself found it very interesting and full of what seems to be well intentioned and believable information from people who are honest.
It is for sure sad that we can't (the American people/government) believe people we put in the highest places in government if they are saying something like this, but we allowed them to control high "top secret" info. for yrs. w/out doubting their credentials. That's where I find it most comical and idiotic, these men and women and others served us for yrs. in high ranking military positions and suddenly they have no authority and no one believes them. Why? Must be b/c they are discussing things the government does not want "disclosed".

I watched the entire video, as time consuming as it was, it was very interesting! to answer one of your questions...


it was posted on 2/12/2008, but the copyright says 2005, but thier website says the press confrence took place on May 9, 2001 here is the website!



http://www.disclosureproject.org/

Dr. Greer is a used car salesman. He's full of crap, but some of the people he cons into working with him aren't. So the problem keeps coming up that when someone legit comes forward under Dr. Greer he is then tossed into the Loon category due to Dr. Greer's name being attached.

BS Because someone is a car salesman he is automaticly full of crap? I know a former bank president who owns a used car lot.

That sounds like the reasons the issue gets dodged by mainstream press. The amount of pressure on people who come forward is fierce and so forceful that it takes increadable fortitude to stand your ground. I know this from personal experiance. As soon as you say the word UFO or alien you become a joke.

Even my neighbors and friends do not believe me about anything on this issue while they come to consult me on many other subjects. The governmaent has ingrained this attitude so thoroughly into the public psyche that this has become the major barrier. Ask someone privitly if they believe and 20 percent will say yes. Yet when they are in a croud they will laugh at you as loud as anyone else.

If eighty percent demanded disclosure and an end to DoD chokehold on it then disclosure will happen.

An example is right here on this forum. I found three metric photos of the Apollo 20 issue that could only have been hoaxed if someone had access to the three original photos. Even the Apollo 15 photos support the pixs. The three metrics are not in any known public release. Yet I am in a majority of 1 on this. Would have to produce the originals to prove hoax. No one can do that, yet still do not accept the proof right in front of their eyes.

I am a professional at photo editing. I did video projects for movie projects and created movie postures. I did designs for sign companies and owned my own sign company for 7 years. Look at my evidence and because you would have to stand against all, you will still not believe. Apollo 20 might be a lie, I do not know. But I can say that those three metric photos could only have been hoaxed by editing in a model on three authentic moon photos that are not in any public release. To prove hoax all that would be required is for the official source of the photos to produce them. They do not do so because it would prove validity and not hoax.

Public acceptance is all that is required to overcome the DoD. When the entire population of the US demands disclosure it will happen. At this point demand disclosure and you are a kook or an idiot. Privatly many believe. Publicly they will join the press in snickering at you.

Prejudice has been thoroughly ingrained into the public psyche. Unconsciously we have all been programmed by 60 years of DoD who have experts in the field of how to control public opinion. They have conducted major studies on how to accomplish this.

I'm sorry I offended you by comparing Dr. Greer to a used car salesman. This doesn't absolve the fact that Dr. Greer is less than credible, thus tainting everyone else around him.

Now, this whole Apollo 20 thing with the Metrics, or what have you. Have you yourself put it forth to anyone for intelligent scrutiny? Any media outlets? Do have links or information where to go to see this? The whole Disclosure Project is looked down upon due to Dr. Greer and his history. To be honest I have no idea what you are talking about. Don't tell me to Google it. I want to see the exact articles, photos, sound bites, videos, subliminal messages, or what ever exactly as you have seen it. Evidence, man, evidence. Put forth the evidence.

Also as I understood it, Mr. Greer worked treating emergency and trauma victims.

So it is claimed. Why he stopped or was forced to stop has never been put forth. With Dr. Greer it's very hard to know what is fact or fiction when he speaks.

I have said it before, and no doubt will keep saying it, the Disclosure Project will never, never, disclose anything that contains anything even close to proof...

In the ebe found on the moon thread here.

WR story is most likly BS. Could be a disenformatin thing to discredit facts. Could be somobody found some evidence and looking to set up a scam. Dont know. However there is something there that is most unusual.

William Rutlegded claimed to be air force astronaut on a secret Apollo 20 mission in 1976 to explore an ancient spaceship on moon. Story seems totally impossible. No logic supports it. Nothing in Apollo 20 seems seem authentic.

Yet Apollo 15 data shows a cigar shaped object with top structure and left right symmetry at -19s 117e. Three metric photos show object as a 3 km long spaceship so old it has craters. Photos from low orbit and three different angles showing authentic three dimensional aspect so it could not be single pix rotated. Craters and moon features correlate exactly to Apollo 15 data. A 15 landscape data have moon shadow angle of 23 degrees so late afternoon on long luner day. Three metrics have longer shadow angle so has to be later in luner day maybe three earth days before sunset. The three metrics are low res scans of original high res photos.

The only way to hoax metrics would be to edit a model ship into original high res pix. The metric source is authentic moon scene. Yet there is no such metrics known in existance from NASA or any other source.

There is a vid clip with Alexei Leonov the cosmonaut in it. He could have been pasted into the scene. One anomaly in scene is either a cut and paste or anomolous reflection on dark surface. Low res vid made from tape so impossible to say which. Yet there is no known vid of Leonov dressed that way performing those actions. So where did that clip come from?

Relevent information and links here.

http://www.freewebs.com/moonship5/