I'm not much a believer in the chemtrail thingy,but this sort of caught my attention:
http://www.cloakanddagger.de/WELCOME%20PAG...TRAIL%20A_C.htm

Could just be a crop duster but who knows?

They claim to have a lot of specific information about the nature of the "chemtrail" "spraying" program, execept they can't say just what the hell they are supposed to be spraying and why. Spraying at ~40,000 feet is useless.

I think this is another case of 'real picture, inaccurate description'. That, my friend, is the pilot's beer supply. Takes a lot o' beer to get through some of them long flights.

There are chemtrails. To say they don't exist is false. Seeding clouds has been a practice used by farmers for nearly 100 years now. Maybe longer.

My mom told me of local farmers using crop dusters who would spray dry ice into clouds which forced the clouds to release rain.

In China, they stated they will use rockets to force clouds to dry up during the olympics (I believe this year?).

This technology exists and has existed for many years. Why is our Government doing this? Because they're either realizing we are running out of farmland and need to create more crops for the growing population or there is some sinister reason behind it. To deny it is foolish. I see grid patterns on some days. I agree that the right conditions are needed to create these trail effects formed by ice crystals but it's obviously that they are not your average flight patterns that are occuring. I see grid patterns and these trails don't break up but rather turn into overcast from all the trails. People are getting sick. I'm seeing more and more of those clouds with the all the rainbow colors in them then I have ever seen before. I actually have never seen one until a few years ago. People all over the US are spotting them.

If the Government wanted to do a better job of hiding this, then they should do it in the open. Just say "We're seeding the clouds to help crop growth". people want to eat. people are willing to eat mutated fruit and veggies and cloned beef if it makes it cheaper. It's better then starving to death, but then again we are over eaters in the US.

Hey, got up this morning and noticed a huge chemtrail operation over where I live. IN fact I saw two craft actually still at it not long ago.

I took some pictures.. I have never seen this many chemtrails before. I counted 17 chemtrails from one window alone, and there is more visible from the other side of the house.

Heres some pics i took.. not high quality but its very disturbing.

From my window:


From the window at the other side of the house:


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You can see a craft still spraying at the lower right of this pic:

And here is the second craft still spraying.


I dont know what they are up to, but it is extremely worrying. I wonder how these people: both the instigators and the people actually flying these planes can actually live with themselves.

Chemtrails are not harmless because countless people have been made very ill by them, which is not surprising due to the toxic composition of substances in them. Barium and aluminum being two poisonous ingredients used. Illnesses reported in the wake of heavy spraying include persistent hacking coughs, upper respiratory and intestinal distress, pneumonia, extreme fatigue, lethargy, dizziness, disorientation, splitting headaches, aching joints and muscles, nosebleeds, diarrhea, bloody stools, depression, anxiety, loss of bladder control and nervous tics.

Chemtrails are believed to be being used for several purposes and none of them good: weather modification, military reasons as part of secret programmes, in conjunction with the HAARP project and base from Alaska utilising Nikola Tesla's technology, and the most sinister of all - culling the population by the billions! It seems that all these reasons may be being put into use.

Edward Teller who invented the hydrogen bomb came up with the idea of creating a sunscreen against the global warming heat from the sun by spraying aluminum particles into the sky to reflect the sunlight back and it appears that this idea has been put into practise. Weather modification has been done before in the form of cloud seeding to create rain or snow. There are now many aviation firms engaged in weather modification and geoengineering experiments.

Concerned members of the public are fighting back with the use of chembusters and orgonite, which employ Wilhelm Reich's discoveries about orgone and were used in his cloudbuster. Others are spreading awareness and demanding answers.

Some highly recommended sites about the subject are:

http://www.californiaskywatch.com

http://www.carnicom.com/

http://www.rense.com/general4/fre.htm

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3432894828304200783

To find out about orgonite and chembusters: http://www.orgonise-africa.net/

This is a classic case of "Fear of the unknown". Since we are not exactly sure of who's doing it and why then it must be for evil purpose.

I'm sure people have been suffering from these illnesses long before chem-trail started.

"Illnesses reported in the wake of heavy spraying include persistent hacking coughs, upper respiratory and intestinal distress, pneumonia, extreme fatigue, lethargy, dizziness, disorientation, splitting headaches, aching joints and muscles, nosebleeds, diarrhea, bloody stools, depression, anxiety, loss of bladder control and nervous tics."

Why get rid of the slaves of population? Just keep them satiated with sex, drugs, sports, and rock and roll. Keep them happy and they will be loyal, mindless workers that won't question authority. May be you're right, those who aren't gainly employed should be eliminated since they have to much time to ponder about things. This could lead to a revolution. Still, I think there are better ways and means to put them to good use. Perhaps, use the alien abduction routine and force them into slave labor in the mines.

"NWO is an unstoppable force, either be part of it or be crush by it."


"This is for entertainment purpose only. Do not ask for sources of something that will get you disassembled."-Norseman.

See i knew it. These are happening all over the place. Planes don't fly in grid patterns but in all different directions. These are lined up in a grid pattern like tic tac toe. That's what i am seeing lately. I think our Government is doing this to keep it warm year round to harvest more food for over population. That's what i honestly believe. but the downside is, Global warming also makes for violent winters and summers and pretty much year round tornados. Not to mention Warmer summers = colder winters. The extremes are insane in California. We don't usually see these kind of icey weather patterns more then once every 5 years or so. We get them for weeks every single year for the past 5-10 years now.

Something is going on and people are dying from it.

BTW they do look like Kegs of beer. But that plane could be used for anything. Who knows what's in those kegs. I like the Beer for Pilot joke. But this is kind of a serious issue.

So I wont comment about the photo itself. It could be extra fuel for all I know. But there are more and more grid patterns in the sky.

I've seen strange hook shape cloud formations mostly during the summer months. Like almost in a fishhook pattern. Early in the morning in the east and during sunset at night in the west. The skies are often very gold in color when I see them.

I've mention this before. I was riding my motorcycle about 2 or 3 years ago and I purchased a small video camera which I wanted to test out on different lighting conditions. So I was putting around on my bike with this camera and saw a plane with a trail. But the trail seem to be very heavy and started to hook downwards. I don't remember if I had the video running or just looked through the viewlens but I could see what looked like the plane dumping fluid out the back end. Now someone might say they were doing a fuel dump. But that would mean the plane was in distress. I don't remember hearing anything on the news. Not saying it didn't happen but I don't think that is common practice. It could also have been dumping toilet water but doesnt that usually end up in a large block of ice?

Greetings Earthians & Others; sorta maybe vaguely chemtrail related in a chemical sense although prolly just my wild imaginings being a scifi freek..Twas riding the BART subway (Bay Area Rapid Transit/San Francisco, March 11th or 12th....on a couple or maybe more occasions people would sit near me either on the platforms or actually on the train and all seemed relatively okay...then a sickly sweet aerosol perfumey type odor seemed to emanate and cause a stench and then they would leave. now I have to get my inhaler replaced and went for check up at nearest med facility as have been coughing up a storm...cld be pollen count and smog and the free universal healthacer in the drinking water i spoze....thats about it...trans....be well...

Sorry, but these are just contrails made by commercial aircraft. It is just water condensation (artificial clouds). I actually see these get made all the time and when the winds aloft are high, they take on weird shapes (like the wide ones in the pic above).

Unless you are telling me that every single large jet aircraft is in on the conspiracy, then they are just contrails.

Most likely the pic in the link is for a military cloud seeding experiment, but that does not mean that every contrail is created by one of those aircraft.


Also, in some cases jets do fly in grid patterns. When you are near a VOR or a runway you will sometimes see converging contrails going to it.

This post has been edited by ThePredator: Mar 17 2008, 10:37 PM

[quote name='xAmberxLeahx' date='Feb 29 2008, 02:15 AM' post='349099']
Chemtrails are not harmless because countless people have been made very ill by them, which is not surprising due to the toxic composition of substances in them. Barium and aluminum being two poisonous ingredients used. Illnesses reported in the wake of heavy spraying include persistent hacking coughs, upper respiratory and intestinal distress, pneumonia, extreme fatigue, lethargy, dizziness, disorientation, splitting headaches, aching joints and muscles, nosebleeds, diarrhea, bloody stools, depression, anxiety, loss of bladder control and nervous tics.

Chemtrails are believed to be being used for several purposes and none of them good: weather modification, military reasons as part of secret programmes, in conjunction with the HAARP project and base from Alaska utilising Nikola Tesla's technology, and the most sinister of all - culling the population by the billions! It seems that all these reasons may be being put into use.




Well , I can promise you one thing , when I 1st. started seeing massive amounts of Chemtrails in our area , I was VERY SICK for the next 5 months with Broncitis and Pneumonia . It would partily start to get better , AND BANG here we go again . I was one sick puppy . NOW they got me diagnosed with Chronic COPD .... Imagine that .

WELL , WATCH THIS VIDEO ON REPORTS FROM TESTING PARTICLES COLLECTED FROM CHEMTRAILS .......http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okB-489l6MI

Ummmmm Tell me why these are Chem trails and not contrails?
Our science is so fantastic these days, if the governments wanted to poison you, they would nt need to spray stuff in the air. I am betting science is capable of killing all red headed males between 40 and 45 that have blue eyes. The world has some nasty shit out there. Do you really think they need chemtrails to get us???

If you are interested in finding out about contrails.... http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/wxwise/class/contrail.html




This post has been edited by Dundee: Mar 18 2008, 05:53 AM

Well I watched the youtube clip and at least this one is a little more credible, but hardly a scientific test. A bloke leaves out some jars??? In the last bit of the clip the poisons man tells us that he has been doing his own research into this and is still skeptical. He said he has seen no calls about exposure to barrium.
Your own evidence tells us this. And a news report hardly constitutes accureate evidence.
As far as the previous testing on the public, well that was then, this is now. You really think your government is so stupid as to do it this way now, i mean if they wanted to do this stuff, you really reckon this is how they would go about it. I don't think so.
I suspect they would be a lot sneakier than that, they may be doing tests on us, but it will not be in plain view like that.
I call them plain old contrails, the likes of which i have seen many times.



This post has been edited by Dundee: Mar 18 2008, 06:07 AM

No accusations, but that's like...



This post has been edited by trog: Mar 18 2008, 10:38 AM

So do you think that would be the best way for your government to conduct tests on you do you, it would fly planes over your country, in broad daylight, leave great big trails all over the sky for all to see, so that ANYONE with $100 could charter a light plane, fly through it and take samples.
I mean in contrast to...
Adding things to your water supply,
Adding things to the food chain, say agriculture,
Adding things to the thousands of commonly used prescription drugs,
And any one of many other devious ways that could be found to do it.

Comon guys, some dude leaves a Jar out and suddenly you are all being poisoned.

I am happy to see a conspiracy with at least a bit of decent evidence is, but give your countrymen some credit for some intelligence.
And even if your worst case that was true, why drop it from a plane and leave great big trail across the sky. Why not do it really late, and drop it in a fine invisible mist from 20k up, then noone would know. The whole thing doesn't make any sense.

This post has been edited by Dundee: Mar 18 2008, 03:29 PM