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post Feb 29 2008, 01:37 PM
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080228/sc_af...R8opCgIkyms0NUE



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post Feb 29 2008, 05:11 PM
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I'm sorry, but as someone with a background in linguistics, let me point out the flaws in this article.

TOKYO (AFP) - Scientists at a Japanese university said Thursday they believed another planet up to two-thirds the size of the Earth was orbiting in the far reaches of the solar system.


The researchers at Kobe University in western Japan said calculations using computer simulations led them to conclude it was only a matter of time before the mysterious "Planet X" was found.

"Because of the very cold temperature, its surface would be covered with ice, icy ammonia and methane," Kobe University professor Tadashi Mukai, the lead researcher, told AFP.

The study by Mukai and researcher Patryk Lykawka will be published in the April issue of the US-based Astronomical Journal.

"The possibility is high that a yet unknown, planet-class celestial body, measuring 30 percent to 70 percent of the Earth's mass, exists in the outer edges of the solar system," said a summary of the research released by Kobe University.

"If research is conducted on a wide scale, the planet is likely to be discovered in less than 10 years," it said.

Planet X -- so called by scientists as it is yet unfound -- would have an oblong elliptical solar orbit and circle the sun every thousand years, the team said, estimating its radius was 15 to 26 billion kilometres.

The study comes two years after school textbooks had to be rewritten when Pluto was booted out of the list of planets.

Pluto was discovered by the American astronomer Clyde Tombaugh in 1930 in the so-called Kuiper belt, a chain of icy debris in the outer reaches of the solar system.

In 2006, nearly a decade after Tombaugh's death, the International Astronomical Union ruled the celestial body was merely a dwarf planet in the cluttered Kuiper belt.

The astronomers said Pluto's oblong orbit overlapped with that of Neptune, excluding it from being a planet. It defined the solar system as consisting solely of the classical set of Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune.

The team noted that more than 1,100 celestial bodies have been found in the outer reaches of the solar system since the mid-1990s.

"But it would be the first time to discover a celestial body of this size, which is much larger than Pluto," Mukai said.

The researchers set up a theoretical model looking at how the remote area of the solar system would have evolved over the past four billion years.

"In coming up with an explanation for the celestial bodies, we thought it would be most natural to assume the existence of a yet unknown planet," Mukai said.

"Based on our hypothesis, we calculated how debris moved over the past four billion years. The result matched the actual movement of the celestial bodies we can observe now," he said.

He was hopeful about research by Kobe University, the University of Hawaii and Taiwan's National Central University.

"We are expecting that the ongoing joint celestial observation project will eventually discover Planet X," Mukai said.

There is no hard data, no evidence, no proof: this entire report is 100% conjecture. They don't even say there IS a planet. This can't even properly be called a theory. These so called 'scientists' should be ashamed.


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post Feb 29 2008, 05:23 PM
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Exactly....

Very true Kirin-Rex.

I have to wonder why Yahoo is treating this as news.
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post Feb 29 2008, 06:21 PM
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Also, I think what these scientists are referring to as "Planet X" might not be what others here have in mind when they refer to "Planet X". Just because they are ascribing the same label, does not mean they are referring to the same thing. I think the term "Planet X" predates this latter day cult's usage to refer to a planet that is coming from the outer toward the inner solar system to destroy life on earth.
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post Feb 29 2008, 07:35 PM
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I could not help but notice that the second link is about a new world order designed to produce a big brother world state.

I am sure that some of the truly crazy people that control world money and oil are out to reach such ends. However, I would not put much faith in them. They can not do such a thing unless people let them.

That is the one thing all that power can not stand up to. The most powerful men in the world fall like a stack of cards when people just don't tolerate that @#$%.

The only reason these creeps have any power at all is because people listen and execute their orders. When the population will not tolerate that, they will be required to change their act, or step down.

The existence of such an activity only points to the fact that this world may be advanced technically, but is lacking in common social and personal skills. Or as one peoson said it "You get the government you deserve". Restoration of individual freedom to be, think and determination to make (as opposed to want) a better world is the only cure. No evil ploting government or insane ruler can stand up to that.
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post Mar 1 2008, 12:09 PM
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If you read the Wikipedia article on Planet X,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_x

you will find that name was created to refer to a large unknown planet in the outer solar system and that no mention is made of its orbit carrying it into the inner solar system. The discovery of Neptune in the mid-nineteenth century was prompted by calculations which determined that the planets within its likely orbit were being perturbed by its presence, and they therefore were able to narrow down the region of sky in which the planet was likely to be. A similar calculation on Neptune and again the planets within its orbit led astronomers to believe that Neptune itself and the others were being perturbed by a large planet outside of the orbit of Neptune. And of course, in the science column of many newspapers over the decades there have been stories about the search for Planet X. The present Planet X hysteria is a childish conflation of this and some mythology. i.e. They have co-opted the label "Planet X" so that they are able to appeal to scientific discussions mentioning the name as if it was some kind of support.
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