Hi guys i'm new to these forums and am glad to be here.

I was wondering, what does everyone consider to be the best evidence available of ufo's, aliens, abductions, etc?

look forward to everyone's responses!!

Not sure if its the best but its certainly the most talked about and that is Roswell

THe implants that Dr. Roger Leir has pulled out of people.

what specifically? Are there specific photos? Corroborated evidence? Etc?

I've been looking into these types of things for about 10 years off and on and I've never found one specific thing that has ever made me say I am 100% convinced something is going on that with extraterrestrials on our planet. I want to believe it, but nothing has ever been able to completely convince me

Your own eyes and the most studied cases showing no other explanations other then alien.

I'm with cricket; witnessing alien activity with my own two eyes would be the best source of evidence for me. Although I certainly wouldn't turn down a speech given by our president where he comes clean to it all!

And, of course, I think an alien invasion would prove it to everyone as well.

There is no such thing as best evidence. Never weill be even if they land on the white house. Someone will always come up with a believable explination of as to why it's not real. But if I had to chose one, Probably the one small video online of 4 cases in which NASA astronauts specificly say there is an alien bogie or alien craft looking at them. And they seem pretty real to me. NASA pulled the plug on two seperate occasions when the astronauts viewed an object that was clearly not from earth and all NASA has to say is "It was space junk" and the people of the world believe it. I'm not sure about Rosswell anymore but I was watching that show about Alien Hunters (I think that's the name of the show) and It's very strange that a man who died in a Military plain crash In Washington who was carrying slag from another crash, ended up having all his personal stuff sent to the guy who first coined the phrase "Flying Saucers". There is a connection. Either these were always Military experiments that seem to be way to high tech for even today let alone the 1940s or they were clearly alien crafts. I don't know the mans name from the 1940s who first spotter Flying Saucers 2 weeks prior to Rosswell or weather he ever told anyone he believed in Aliens, but it sure seems strange the Military admitted to Flying Saucers then changed the story. And why say it's a Balloon when it was a top secret balloon project? You'de want to stay as far away from the word "Balloon" as possible. they could have said it was a test plane that crashed.

I have put off UFOs for a long time because I feel like there is clearly people who are mocking me. But deep in my heart I know they exist.

You really can not take one thing and say this absolutely proves it. For one thing what constitutes proof varies with the individual.
For me it took a better part of 15-20 years of research and study to come to the conclusion that we are indeed being visited.
You have to really examine all the evidence, from declassified documents the individual reports throughout history and see and speak to the very people that has witnesses to had contact with these visitors. Watch the many programs and read up on military experiences on this subject as well.
It greatly helps to actually see a Genuine UFO.

Always be cautious of what you read and are told. There are some real nut cases in this subject.

The best evidence is NO evidence because absence of proof is proof in itself!

To each there own, I guess.

the history of art

Sorry, Martyn. It was a joke.

The book of Ezekiel from the old testament.
Tell me he is not describing some sort of flying vehicle?
Each one you read has a slightly different interpretation, but they all seem to say the same thing.
Even if you read the literal translation (ie no embellishments) it s just as impressive.
Personally, I can see only two possibilities,

1. Ezekiel made the whole thing up, therefore it is utter crap
2. He did indeed see some sort of craft land.
Sorry, I am not really one to believe it was truly a divine visit.


Classic Translation
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?searc...&version=9;

Literal Translation
http://yltbible.com/ezekiel/1.htm

Thanks for the feedback everyone!! Part of me always hopes that I will stumble across something on the net one day about some abductee getting away with an artifact, or some amazing photo of a UFO or alien up close or even a more credible government document that stands out from the rest.

Here’s an account that was splashed all over the American Press and remains one of my favorites… ~rore

“The 1952 Washington D.C. UFO incident, also known as the Washington flap, was a series of unidentified flying object reports from July 13 to July 29, 1952, over Washington D.C. The most-publicized sightings took place on consecutive weekends, July 19-20 and July 26-27.


“Longtime ufologist Richard H. Hall, who served as the assistant director of NICAP and as the director of the Fund for UFO Research, writes:[1]
"The summer 1952 UFO sighting wave was one of the largest of all time, and arguably the most significant of all time in terms of the credible reports and hardcore scientific data obtained." More @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1952_Washingt...C._UFO_incident

Very interesting!! I think Kevin Randle wrote a book about this a while back, although I never got around to reading it.

I read an article about a month ago from 1999 with a tribal elder from southern Africa who stated that tribes occasionally collect alien bodies from crash sites in moutainous areas of Africa and ritualistically eat the bodies. According to the elder, consuming the alien flesh gives extremely euphoric feelings. Not sure if I believe it or not. But, if it was true, it's such a shame that these bodies are simply being eaten and not studied more closely. Unfortunetly, it seems like opportunities for contact and/or proof area often wasted on people who are incapable or ill prepared to capitalize on them.

I always thought Ted Phillips made a great case.

Link to some Ted Phillips sites

When I said "Washington" i meant the State of Washington and not DC. It was reported the several disc objects flew over some lake and one of them crashed. I think someone was hit or their dog was killed. I was kind of tired when I watched this show. But it goes on to say some guys from some Northern California base had flew up to pick up the debri and when they were flying back to california, they crashed into the woods of the cascade mountains in central Washington. One of the pilots had most of his belongings sent to Kenneth Arnold ..

Bottom line is why did Kenneth Arnold receive this stuff. It's 2 cases of people identifying UFOs in which Kenneth Arnold was apart of. Why would Kenneth Arnold report UFOs if he was apart of some secret Government program. I don't know if this washington case was prior or after Rosswell and his first reports of UFOs. But if it was before then you can see why he had interest in them. if it was after the fact, then it leads me to believe the Government let him in on all of this.

This post has been edited by trog: Mar 18 2008, 11:26 AM

If only one of all ufo materials is true ,this means something.What is a chance everything is a hoax?

GTH.....I agree with you.....I'd have to see it for myself.....IMO no incontrivertble evidence showing the existence of aliens found. UFOs are a differnt story....but then many of those are natural events, human technology, honest misidentifications of sightings and of course intentional hoaxs.....but some are really unidentified.....so these maybe alien craft.....I'd really like it if they were.