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post Mar 20 2008, 04:21 PM
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post Mar 20 2008, 04:52 PM
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Interesting but the Lab analysis of the metal revealed nothing out of the ordinary though?
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post Mar 20 2008, 05:37 PM
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QUOTE (Dundee @ Mar 20 2008, 05:42 PM) *
Interesting but the Lab analysis of the metal revealed nothing out of the ordinary though?

To prove fragments are extraterrestrail requires "isotopic ratio analysis" which an well known organization has agree to have done at their expense in the near future.
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post Mar 20 2008, 06:03 PM
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Welcome to the forum.
It looks to me that you have an ordinary piece of aluminum alloy that was exposed to heat and deterioration from being in the ground.
If we are to believe a metal piece is extraterrestrial in origin it must have previously unknown elements and or be a composite or alloy...unachievable by present day.


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post Mar 21 2008, 03:45 AM
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QUOTE (meteorlima @ Mar 20 2008, 11:27 PM) *
To prove fragments are extraterrestrail requires "isotopic ratio analysis" which an well known organization has agree to have done at their expense in the near future.


So one test says its Alluminum(no surprise there),but your hoping "isotopic ratio analysis" will show its actually extraterestrial in origin, is the correct...?


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post Mar 21 2008, 07:59 AM
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ml.....interesting article....nothing looks out of the ordinary in the pics or the reports.....and we would need more information about the setting, where it occurred and what was crashed .....the article also doesn't state the length of time the aluminum has been exposed to the desert environment. Sorry there are to many questions to say it is anything but remnants of an aircraft crash.

Bear in mind there was a large military presence in New Mexico in WW2.....its likely from a crash near a current or former base.
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post Mar 21 2008, 11:03 AM
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Maybe this will clarify what this is about> http://video.aol.com/video-detail/crc-1067...le03/2540540171
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post Mar 21 2008, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE (meteorlima @ Mar 21 2008, 04:53 PM) *
Maybe this will clarify what this is about> http://video.aol.com/video-detail/crc-1067...le03/2540540171


ml...so this debris is from the crash at corona......thanks.

It all still looks like melted aluminum.....bear in mind that their were four auxilary airfields in the area of roswell army airfield....which later became Walker AFB......so no doubt there would be debris in the area.
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post Mar 21 2008, 04:34 PM
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Silicone is often added to certain aluminum alloys.

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4xxx series - The major alloying element of this group is silicon, which can be added in sufficient quantities (up to 12%) to cause substantial lowering of the melting point without producing brittleness in the resulting alloys. For these reasons aluminum-silicon alloys are used in welding wire and as brazing alloys where a lower melting point than that of the parent metal is required.


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6xxx series - Alloys in this group contain silicon and magnesium in approximate proportions to form magnesium silicone, thus making them heat-treatable. Though less strong than most of the 2xxx or 7xxx alloys, the magnesium-silicon alloys possess good formability and corrosion resistance, with medium strength.


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post Mar 22 2008, 07:55 AM
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i'll be very interested to see the future lab results. Something like this could be huge
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post Mar 22 2008, 08:16 AM
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QUOTE (johnnyg @ Mar 22 2008, 01:45 PM) *
i'll be very interested to see the future lab results. Something like this could be huge


johnnyg....I'm curious as well.....it should confirm things one or the other.....or at least put to rest the opinions of this ufo researcher.
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post Mar 22 2008, 05:45 PM
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I personally feel they found nothing other worldly at all and that they were persuing a Wild Goose Chase.
Any and all debri is gone long ago.
What is left behind is not something overlooked, but rather ordinary debri from earthly crafts.


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post Oct 26 2008, 01:44 PM
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Check out the History Channel "UFO Hunters" Episode Guide for "The Real Roswell"....coming up new season
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post Oct 26 2008, 02:32 PM
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QUOTE (meteorlima @ Oct 26 2008, 07:44 PM) *
Check out the History Channel "UFO Hunters" Episode Guide for "The Real Roswell"....coming up new season


ml....I watch it all the time....hopefully they'll have better luck than they did with mexicos "roswell"
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post Oct 26 2008, 05:16 PM
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The problem with analysis is that most of the known elements are pretty much universal throughout the universe. No matter where the material came from you might not be able ro determine anything that would prove it extra terrestrial.

And even if you found something unusual for domestic metals. That does not mean it was not produced by a high tech terestrial process.

I think you are going to beed an artifact that is a little more intact to prove anything difinitive.
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post Oct 26 2008, 05:57 PM
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QUOTE (bart5050 @ Oct 26 2008, 06:16 PM) *
The problem with analysis is that most of the known elements are pretty much universal throughout the universe. No matter where the material came from you might not be able ro determine anything that would prove it extra terrestrial.

And even if you found something unusual for domestic metals. That does not mean it was not produced by a high tech terestrial process.

I think you are going to beed an artifact that is a little more intact to prove anything difinitive.

The test to be done is "isotope ratio analysis" which looks at the number of isotopes(neutrons) to a known number of isotopes in similar earth material to the one thought to be "extratrrestrial".... if the tested material has an unusual number of isotopes compared to the "earthly" sample means the material was formed under conditions unlike earth ie: meteorites / moon & mars rocks
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post Oct 26 2008, 09:18 PM
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QUOTE (meteorlima @ Oct 26 2008, 11:57 PM) *
The test to be done is "isotope ratio analysis" which looks at the number of isotopes(neutrons) to a known number of isotopes in similar earth material to the one thought to be "extratrrestrial".... if the tested material has an unusual number of isotopes compared to the "earthly" sample means the material was formed under conditions unlike earth ie: meteorites / moon & mars rocks


ml....when are they going to have the results from this isotopic analyses?
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post Oct 26 2008, 09:29 PM
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QUOTE (Castle-Bravo354 @ Oct 26 2008, 10:18 PM) *
ml....when are they going to have the results from this isotopic analyses?

Been waiting for weeks now..I just make others aware... the ones directly involved that fund the testing call the shots
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post Oct 26 2008, 09:33 PM
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QUOTE (meteorlima @ Oct 27 2008, 03:29 AM) *
Been waiting for weeks now..I just make others aware... the ones directly involved that fund the testing call the shots


ml.....thanks....I'd love to see the results when they come in
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