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Mar 28 2008, 06:26 PM
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I suspect dust, but I wanted to get some other opinions. Yes, that is my finger that swiped the aperture while open. This was taken about a year ago when I attempted to sell a leather jacket on ebay, and found it while browsing my reject folder. I've gotten similar orb-like anomalies on film in this part of my house. Though, the laundry room being on the other side of this door may lead me to believe that dust is in fact the cause. I tend to steer clear of evidence containing orbs due to their lack of credence, but then again, I'm certainly not an expert in analyzing paranormal photographs.
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Mar 28 2008, 06:26 PM
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Mar 28 2008, 10:14 PM
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![]() Group: Super Moderators Posts: 5,152 Joined: 10-July 06 From: Wild Rose, Wisconsin Member No.: 4,643 |
In my opinion it is merely a dust particle, close to the camera.
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Mar 29 2008, 12:27 AM
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Lense Flare mate, thats all...
Which by the way in my opinion accounts for 99.99999999999% of so called orbs Lens flare is the light scattered in lens systems through generally unwanted image formation mechanisms, such as internal reflection and scattering from material inhomogeneities in the lens. These mechanisms differ from the intended image formation mechanism that depends on refraction of the image rays. For good optical systems and most images, flare is a secondary effect that is widely distributed across the image and thus not visible. But when an image includes a very bright light source, flare generated by a bright image region can have enough intensity to become very visible. The light produced by flare mechanisms superimposes broadly across the image, adding light to dark image regions and reducing image contrast. Lenses with large numbers of elements such as zooms tend to exhibit greater lens flare, as they contain multiple surfaces at which unwanted internal scattering occurs. The spatial distribution of the lens flare typically manifests as several starbursts, rings, or circles in a row across the image or view. Lens flare patterns typically spread widely across the scene and change location with the camera's movement relative to light sources, tracking with the light position and fading as the camera points away from the bright light until it causes no flare at all. The specific spatial distribution of the flare depends on the shape of the aperture of the image formation elements. For example, if the lens has a 6-bladed aperture, the flare may have a hexagonal pattern. Such internal scattering is also present in the human eye and manifests in an unwanted veiling glare that is apparent when viewing very bright lights or highly reflective (e.g. specular) surfaces. When a bright light source is shining on the lens but not in its field of view, lens flare appears as a haze that washes out the image and reduces contrast. This can be avoided by shading the lens (the purpose for which lens hoods are designed). In a studio, a gobo or set of barn doors can be attached to the lighting to keep it from shining on the camera. Modern lenses use lens coatings to reduce the amount reflection and minimize flare. This post has been edited by Dundee: Mar 29 2008, 12:30 AM |
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Mar 29 2008, 05:57 AM
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,367 Joined: 28-February 08 From: Essex,UK Member No.: 7,241 |
Lense Flare mate, thats all... Which by the way in my opinion accounts for 99.99999999999% of so called orbs Lens flare is the light scattered in lens systems through generally unwanted image formation mechanisms, such as internal reflection and scattering from material inhomogeneities in the lens. These mechanisms differ from the intended image formation mechanism that depends on refraction of the image rays. For good optical systems and most images, flare is a secondary effect that is widely distributed across the image and thus not visible. But when an image includes a very bright light source, flare generated by a bright image region can have enough intensity to become very visible. The light produced by flare mechanisms superimposes broadly across the image, adding light to dark image regions and reducing image contrast. Lenses with large numbers of elements such as zooms tend to exhibit greater lens flare, as they contain multiple surfaces at which unwanted internal scattering occurs. The spatial distribution of the lens flare typically manifests as several starbursts, rings, or circles in a row across the image or view. Lens flare patterns typically spread widely across the scene and change location with the camera's movement relative to light sources, tracking with the light position and fading as the camera points away from the bright light until it causes no flare at all. The specific spatial distribution of the flare depends on the shape of the aperture of the image formation elements. For example, if the lens has a 6-bladed aperture, the flare may have a hexagonal pattern. Such internal scattering is also present in the human eye and manifests in an unwanted veiling glare that is apparent when viewing very bright lights or highly reflective (e.g. specular) surfaces. When a bright light source is shining on the lens but not in its field of view, lens flare appears as a haze that washes out the image and reduces contrast. This can be avoided by shading the lens (the purpose for which lens hoods are designed). In a studio, a gobo or set of barn doors can be attached to the lighting to keep it from shining on the camera. Modern lenses use lens coatings to reduce the amount reflection and minimize flare. orbs are only captured on digital technology.as said 99.9% are dust reflecting light.is that you're finger on the left. |
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Mar 29 2008, 06:45 AM
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Mar 29 2008, 09:25 AM
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![]() Group: Super Moderators Posts: 5,152 Joined: 10-July 06 From: Wild Rose, Wisconsin Member No.: 4,643 |
He said the blurred image to the right was his finger.
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Mar 29 2008, 11:27 AM
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Are they???? i'm reasonably sure.you look at footage using convential equipment,such as slr cameras no orbs.the digital cameras nowadays pick up any thing that reflects light that includes dust.im not saying orbs are all dust as i have seen things caught in these camera's that have left me perplexed.i have seen them in broad daylight with my own eyes. |
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Mar 29 2008, 02:01 PM
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I'm with Dundee on this. It's very rare that I, personally, see real orbs in pictures. I often see them as nothing more complicated or paranormal than lens flare.
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Mar 30 2008, 04:02 PM
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It's definitely the camera/picture.
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Apr 1 2008, 08:11 PM
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Orbs even though many many people think they have something to do with paranormal happenings are for the most part wrong. Orbs captured by camera's make people think "Oh its a ghost because i can't see it in front of me!" automatically. But orbs especially ones caught on camera's are dust, reflection, ect ect. Even if it is not dust it does not mean it has anything to do with paranormal things. Orbs can be energy that has collected into ball form and its just a natural event. In the rare occasion that it is something paranormal you will more then likely see it without the camera and will be very bright sending off a sort of glow. So just because you take a picture see something that you think is a orb it is more then likely not if you did not see it when taking the picture.
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Apr 2 2008, 07:18 AM
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orbs are only captured on digital technology.as said 99.9% are dust reflecting light.is that you're finger on the left. Yep, that's exactly right - orbs never really started appearing until digital cameras. Don't worry, Martyn, that's only a dust particle floating around in the air. A lot of the times dust will appear to be glowing - this is the result of the flash of the camera reflecting off pieces of dust and thus giving them the look of having light to them. This post has been edited by Grey Martian: Apr 2 2008, 07:19 AM -------------------- ![]() "Even when we know we'll never find the answers, we have to keep on asking the questions." "We came here to learn. We're not that different from you, but what you call evolution has changed us. We see things in you that we no longer recognize in ourselves. The whole concept of right and wrong was...alien to us. Your emotional core, your strength, your feeling, and our more evolved consciousness. Could we bring these two together? If we could do this, we would have the next step in the evolution of life." Taken |
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May 1 2008, 10:50 AM
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orbs are only captured on digital technology.as said 99.9% are dust reflecting light.is that you're finger on the left. Man, where do you get some of your ideas, Macdaddy? The last two posts that I have looked at, you have posted some pretty wild and unproven claims. How does this account for the numerous photos all over the internet, that were taken from regular cameras, and show orbs. I suppose these were all just dust particles? Digital has nothing to do with it, man. This post has been edited by Samurai: May 1 2008, 10:51 AM |
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May 1 2008, 10:53 AM
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Yep, that's exactly right - orbs never really started appearing until digital cameras. Don't worry, Martyn, that's only a dust particle floating around in the air. A lot of the times dust will appear to be glowing - this is the result of the flash of the camera reflecting off pieces of dust and thus giving them the look of having light to them. Grey Martian, I will ask you the same thing I asked Macdaddy... do you have any proof that orbs only started to show up after the introduction of the digital camera? What about the pictures that show orbs that were taken from regular cameras, are the orbs really just dust particles? |
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May 14 2008, 03:07 AM
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Hanging a jacket on a ladder next to a door is known to upset spirits.
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May 14 2008, 07:19 AM
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Hanging a jacket on a ladder next to a door is known to upset spirits. Common misconception. -------------------- "A Wise Man looks at a grain of sand and sees the Universe...
A Silly Man picks up a piece of seeweed, puts it around his neck and runs along the beach yelling: Look at me, I'm The Vine Man... Dingo Brains |
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May 17 2008, 11:40 AM
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I suspect dust, but I wanted to get some other opinions. Yes, that is my finger that swiped the aperture while open. This was taken about a year ago when I attempted to sell a leather jacket on ebay, and found it while browsing my reject folder. I've gotten similar orb-like anomalies on film in this part of my house. Though, the laundry room being on the other side of this door may lead me to believe that dust is in fact the cause. I tend to steer clear of evidence containing orbs due to their lack of credence, but then again, I'm certainly not an expert in analyzing paranormal photographs. ![]() I would be interested in the history of the house and surrounding area. Magnify the orb and look at the facial features that jump out at you. I wont say what I see at this time. Just take into account the history of the house and grounds then look again at the orb. Let us know what you see. Seeker |
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May 19 2008, 11:29 AM
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orbs do not just appear on digital camera...they have been around for a long time...
As for the picture...its not a flare...a flare requires a fairly strong light source...in this picture, the source would have to have been located in front of the jacket and to the right...somewhat behind the photographer...and nearly level with the jacket...you can note this because the jacket and ladder does not shadow the wall...except to the left fore...where the photographer caught the edge of his/her finger...in which case there is no light source to the left...furthermore, if there had there been a light source to correspond with the 'orb'....which, as noted, would have had to been right fore...it would have cast a reflective glare across the surface of the black leather..but there is an absence of any reflective glare there...quite to the opposite...it is in shadow...which also eliminates it being dust...and in no way is it in line with the diffuse glow created from the artifact to the left edit...there is a light source to the left...the orb is not in line with it.. This post has been edited by iwant2believe2: May 19 2008, 11:36 AM |
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May 19 2008, 01:52 PM
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orbs do not just appear on digital camera...they have been around for a long time... As for the picture...its not a flare...a flare requires a fairly strong light source...in this picture, the source would have to have been located in front of the jacket and to the right...somewhat behind the photographer...and nearly level with the jacket...you can note this because the jacket and ladder does not shadow the wall...except to the left fore...where the photographer caught the edge of his/her finger...in which case there is no light source to the left...furthermore, if there had there been a light source to correspond with the 'orb'....which, as noted, would have had to been right fore...it would have cast a reflective glare across the surface of the black leather..but there is an absence of any reflective glare there...quite to the opposite...it is in shadow...which also eliminates it being dust...and in no way is it in line with the diffuse glow created from the artifact to the left edit...there is a light source to the left...the orb is not in line with it.. i don't normally disagree with you want2believe,but i have not seen an orb appear on anything other than a digital camera or video recorder.was the orb visible to the naked eye like the ones i see but my wife can't these are phosphorous bright with tails.i still think that pic is an effect of the camera. |
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May 20 2008, 06:39 AM
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Looks like a picture of a nice jacket. What am I supposed to be looking at?
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May 26 2008, 08:53 AM
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i don't normally disagree with you want2believe,but i have not seen an orb appear on anything other than a digital camera or video recorder.was the orb visible to the naked eye like the ones i see but my wife can't these are phosphorous bright with tails.i still think that pic is an effect of the camera. My daughter can see orbs with her naked eye as well. Actually we have some very strange things going on in our house right now and she saw an orb just the other night when we were all stuck awake for fear of sleep. but that is a long story.. I will post later. |
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